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Teslas are supposed to be the fastest accelerating production cars on the market today. One key to acceleration is traction. Is traction computer controlled or can you bake the tires?
 
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Pretty sure the quickest Tesla are AWD, so burnouts are probably difficult.
Not sure on the lower spec RWD models.




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Also, traction control is harmful to ETs, as it'll brake wheels that are slipping. Maybe that doesn't apply in Ludicrous Mode, though.



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My cousin has 1 level below ludicrous model x. The P90d I think ? I’ve driven it. First thing he says is stomp on it. Wow. The 0-60 acceleration is a monster. Nothing I’ve experienced before and that includes a Buddy’s newer HEMI dodge and another fiends early 2000s ZR1 Corvette. The internal combustion engines have torque but they have to spool up. The electric engine is full power NOW. And no I couldn’t do a burn out with the non manual trans in the tesla.
 
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Tesla's torque algorithms are specifically designed to avoid "drama".

The cars avoid slippage at all costs and only apply brutal current to the motors when traction is assured by the feedback systems.

The cars are designed to accelerate ferociously, but gracefully, meaning quietly. You can probably force a Tesla burnout, but that's not their bag baby.
 
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Supposedly there is a group that created/ accessed a computer workaround that allows for wheelspin making it possible to do a burnout or actual drift with a model 3.

But it is either modifying the vehicle parameters (computer wheelsize input) or disabling controls (wheelslip indicators).




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Fast acceleration and wheelspin are mutually exclusive. Spinning tires do nothing to actually propel the car. Yes, Top Fuel and Funny Cars do burnouts to heat the tires and lay down a layer of rubber on the track for an optimal launch, but there is no wheelspin at the actual launch. When the margin for error is hundredths of a second, they can't afford any. With street tires on a normal road, if anything, traction/launch control should improve acceleration by preventing wheelspin.
 
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Tesla's torque algorithms are specifically designed to avoid "drama".

The cars avoid slippage at all costs and only apply brutal current to the motors when traction is assured by the feedback systems.

The cars are designed to accelerate ferociously, but gracefully, meaning quietly. You can probably force a Tesla burnout, but that's not their bag baby.


That is the beauty of their accomplishment. If modders wnat to improve anything, perhaps it should be tweaking for different tire compounds or tire sizes. Burnouts are so overrated, downright absurd in any street car.
 
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Someone that lives close by kept turning around in my drive and doing the 1/8th mile drag from my house to the subdivision down the road. Outside of a racetrack, it was the quickest thing I’ve seen (faster than bikes too). He did this 3 times which I guess is about all they’re good for on one charge.

All of it was done on cold tires so to speak. I don’t believe the CPU’s allow burnouts. He left plenty of rubber on the road when he launched so I don’t think he was hurting for traction.


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The Performance models have lots of “track” settings the normal ones don’t

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Fb6ToAg6k


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They look like fun on takeoff. Any practical info on how much this kind of driving eats into range? A little? A lot?
 
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There are hidden features “Easter eggs”

There are certain codes that can be accessed

In Dynomode traction control is disabled


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Thanx for the input. lots of info. Part 2.what regulates top end? There is a company that modifies Tesla engines to bolt in to any small block Chevy application. At ten grand plus "batteries not included"won't be many at the local car shows.
 
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Thanx for the input. lots of info. Part 2.what regulates top end? There is a company that modifies Tesla engines to bolt in to any small block Chevy application. At ten grand plus "batteries not included"won't be many at the local car shows.


First is the same thing that limits every other vehicle, aerodynamic drag. Very roughly to double your speed it takes 4 times the power. Eventually you run out of power.

The second thing is that electric motors fall on their face as they spin faster. They're kind of the opposite of internal combustion engines that way, they have the instant torque that makes them so quick off the line but that goes away and at some point the ICE engine regains the advantage. They are brutally fast off the line, but fading fast by the quarter mile. That doesn't matter at all in day to day driving, but it does limit what they can do at the top end.




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Fast acceleration and wheelspin are mutually exclusive. Spinning tires do nothing to actually propel the car. Yes, Top Fuel and Funny Cars do burnouts to heat the tires and lay down a layer of rubber on the track for an optimal launch, but there is no wheelspin at the actual launch. When the margin for error is hundredths of a second, they can't afford any. With street tires on a normal road, if anything, traction/launch control should improve acceleration by preventing wheelspin.


Yeah, but laying down $50 worth of rubber on the pavement shows what a man you are.




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A) I haven't actually turned on my track mode yet. I like driving fast, not hooning, and its such a fatty of a car, that its not actually fun beyond a straight line.

B) But I do want to know about dyno mode, because I do want to do a 4 wheel burnout, and it should have the torque for that.

C) Link requested for the Tesla conversion, please. My '49 has a "nifty" motor in it, which sounds lovely, but I have a '77 F100 project, which would make a nifty grocery getter with a Tesla drivetrain.
 
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A) I haven't actually turned on my track mode yet. I like driving fast, not hooning, and its such a fatty of a car, that its not actually fun beyond a straight line.

B) But I do want to know about dyno mode, because I do want to do a 4 wheel burnout, and it should have the torque for that.

C) Link requested for the Tesla conversion, please. My '49 has a "nifty" motor in it, which sounds lovely, but I have a '77 F100 project, which would make a nifty grocery getter with a Tesla drivetrain.


Main control menu...
Touch software at the bottom
Touch and hold for 3-5sec on model area
Enter Dynotest in the pop up box


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