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Excellent post. I agree with ever word.  ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Zaino is indeed an excellent product line. My only issue with some people (no one in this thread) pushing it, is that its not the only answer to every detailing question asked. There are detailing zealots out there just like we find in the gun community who are closed minded to anything beyond their one product. For those of us who are really into detailing, we know how blessed we are to have an almost endless array of terrific products to choose from (big reason why I shy away from recommending any specific brands or products). And that list is always growing... ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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That sounds like a clear winner. Added to my Amazon wish list.
Does "soft touch" = "soft cloth?" I've always wondered about those. I can see why the brushes you used to see were rough on a finish, but it's always seemed to me those "cloth" strips could easily hold nasty abrasives.
I'll keep it in mind, but... I don't believe I'm looking to turn this into a hobby 
I've been perusing Autogeek's forums. If I really get into it I'll join.
Noted.
One of my best friends, who keeps his cars pristine, and researches things even more thoroughly than do I, told me something like "It's 2/3 prep and 1/3 product/application."
Noted. He had a "problem issue" of some type with a bit of his glass. Tried everything. Finally found something that did the trick. Don't recall what he used. I would have sworn I took notes when we were discussing these things at his place a week ago, but I'll be damned if I can find anything on my phone. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Soft touch= closed cell foam fingers in some of the automated car washes. They cost more, but don’t hold the dirt like the old style ones did as easily so lessening the notorious scratches that were common Touch free= Not very good cleaning and always a film left on the vehicle. Basically a soap foam bath and high pressure rinse ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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But on a car coated with a ceramic coating (as was suggested earlier), the dirt and grime should slide right off. The key for cars that suffer through northern winters is to get a hard durable coating on the surface of the paint that is super slick and will last. That way, whatever gets on the paint can't attach very well to the surface and should be able to be floated away without too much effort. And the Wolfgang Trim Sealant mentioned above is an excellent product. I use it on all my cars. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Did a bit >< more research. Ceramic does look great, but if the one detailer I found that was willing to post starting prices is any guide ($650 minimum): I'm going to have to pass. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Thats why I did it myself Many good products out there now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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Yes, but that's a non-trivial project and the weather's no longer suitable. (E.g.: It's ±33°F, breezy and blowing snow flurries atm.) I may look at doing it next spring. AIUI:
Weather aside: It's the rubbing it out that may be the show-stopper. I don't know if I have it in me, any longer, to rub out an entire Jeep Grand Cherokee. We do own a nice Makita variable-speed orbital sander/polisher, however. In the meantime: I'm looking for how best to protect the vehicles over this winter. Right now it's looking like detailing the exteriors and regular visits to the least-damaging automatic car wash. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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The ceramic coatings are amazing from what I've been hearing, BUT they're not something you want to self apply. They're sold in Millileter bottles and very expensive for the product. Hire the professional who does it everyday. What you waste in using too much to apply it, will end up costing you more than the professional to do it and stand behind it. But for what you're looking for and money spent keeping it up with traditional waxes and time, it sounds like you're a perfect candidate for ceramic. | |||
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Dang! I need to move up north and do some detailing as a sideline if that's the going rate. Ceramic is expensive to apply, but not that expensive. As you noted, you might as well do as best you can for now given weather conditions and revisit ceramic in the spring or early summer. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Tried to sign up to the autogeek forum. Got back "Unfortunately your registration at Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum did not meet our membership requirements. Therefore your registration was deleted."
Really? In addition to the mysterious and unexplained "you're not good enough for us" message, they did not deign to answer my polite inquiry as to what that meant. I don't believe I'll be buying anything from AutoGeek. Or their sister company. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I can help a little with this perhaps, from my routine. Have always had same issue after washing, and on at least one of my cars the resulting rust-dust was very visible on wheels. Now after I finish washing and drying I take a slow tour to the end of my street and back, probably 1/4 mile round trip, lightly dragging the brakes the whole way. Between the surface rub and mild friction and heat dries them off without any meaningful impact on wear. YMMV, but for those of us who notice this stuff it's an answer! You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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That is absolutely weird in the extreme. I've sent literally dozens of people to the Autogeek forum and have never had a single person note their registration attempt was denied for any reason. I don't recommend many companies in any field, but Autogeek has been absolutely terrific to deal with over the maybe half dozen plus years I've bought from them, and I've never gotten one cross word sent my way for recommending them. Again, I'm a bit dumbfounded by the problem(s) you encountered. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Update Given the other feedback on AutoGeek, here, I decided something must be amiss, so I gave their customer service a call. Turns out their system automatically rejects anybody who's been waiting in the approval queue too long, and their web people are swamped. He said most "applicants" are spammers, which is why they have the manual review step in the first place. The CS guy apologized, asked for my email address so they could watch out for it, and for me to re-apply. I did and it went through, this time. As busy as they must be this time of the year, to take the time to handle this speaks well of their customer support, IMO. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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