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Right now I'm running a mowing and fertilizing business. I eventually want to phase out the mowing. I'm trying to decide whether to get another pickup or opt for a cargo van.

If I switch to a van I'll have to rebuild my spray rig to run electric pumps. If I stick with a pickup, I can keep the gas powered pumps but I'll want to buy or build a cover for the spray rig and mount it permanently. I want it lockable.

The van will smell like lawn chemicals, the truck cab will be separate from the chemicals in the bed.

Before I'm able to phase out the mowing, I'm concerned backing up a van with a trailer will be more difficult than a pickup.

I think a pickup may be more convenient and convenience equals speed and time is money. I also think a van is more secure and having something stolen from a truck really sucks.

I'm planning to go with another GMC. Probably a 3500. Engine suggestions welcome.

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Posts: 45373 | Location: Pennsyltucky | Registered: December 05, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it (ie Pickup Truck).

Or you could really upgrade and get an EM-50.

 
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How tall is the spray rig? You could get a cap for a pickup or if the spray rig doesn't sit above the sides of the bed, a hard locking cover.




 
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I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it (ie Pickup Truck).

Or you could really upgrade and get an EM-50.



I technically supposed to have the chemicals secure and a van wins in that department.
 
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What about putting all of the spray equipment, tank and etc. on a trailer that you tow?
 
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We ran GMC's 3500 with flatbeds on them with power reels and Duramax engines. Best rigs we found. We would buy the chassis and we have several bed manufacturers around here. Just pick the ones that worked the best.
 
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How tall is the spray rig? You could get a cap for a pickup or if the spray rig doesn't sit above the sides of the bed, a hard locking cover.
Unfortunately, it does rise above the sides of the bed. I can rebuild it with a truck bed tank that fits between the wheel wells but I need to be able to pull the hose. It has to be elevated and the cover would have to be completely out of the way, not angled with a little space for access.
 
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We ran GMC's 3500 with flatbeds on them with power reels and Duramax engines. Best rigs we found. We would buy the chassis and we have several bed manufacturers around here. Just pick the ones that worked the best.
Any chance of you posting a picture? This sounds like a great idea. Do I really want to go diesel?
 
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How tall is the spray rig? You could get a cap for a pickup or if the spray rig doesn't sit above the sides of the bed, a hard locking cover.
Unfortunately, it does rise above the sides of the bed. I can rebuild it with a truck bed tank that fits between the wheel wells but I need to be able to pull the hose. It has to be elevated and the cover would have to be completely out of the way, not angled with a little space for access.



How about one of these?




 
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How tall is the spray rig? You could get a cap for a pickup or if the spray rig doesn't sit above the sides of the bed, a hard locking cover.
Unfortunately, it does rise above the sides of the bed. I can rebuild it with a truck bed tank that fits between the wheel wells but I need to be able to pull the hose. It has to be elevated and the cover would have to be completely out of the way, not angled with a little space for access.



How about one of these?
It's not bad. I can see that working. Of course back up visibility is limited like in a van.
 
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You could get tow mirrors and a backup camera mounted to the top of the cap.




 
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I'm not going to tell you which to pick because I don't know enough. But if you choose a van, install a barrier between the passenger and cargo areas. You don't want pieces of equipment and heavy containers of liquids coming forward and hitting you in a crash.
 
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Something like this with a smaller box would probably be ideal for the fertilizing but would suck for dragging around a trailer.

https://m.gmfleet.com/gmc/savana-cutaway-van.html
 
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If you dislike backing, you won't like a trailer. Short trailers are difficult to back without jackknifing.
 
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If you dislike backing, you won't like a trailer. Short trailers are difficult to back without jackknifing.
I drag a trailer every day. Homebase has neighbors with street parking. It makes backing in difficult. I really want to get out of mowing soon.
 
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You could get tow mirrors and a backup camera mounted to the top of the cap.
Great ideas.
 
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I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it (ie Pickup Truck).

Or you could really upgrade and get an EM-50.




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a few things Mark. Are you going new or used?

I do not have a pix handy but a 1 ton with a Knapahide service truck that has the raised top on it would be the "cats meow" imho.

If you were going to go that route you would definitely want a diesel.

Not sure if Chev is still doing the 6.0 in their 3/4 ton's. Good engines, just thirsty. I would not go a big block gas. Unless you found a gem early to mid 1990's with the real 454, then maybe Wink

Here is some eye candy. Big Grin

https://bloomington.craigslist...-cab/6826296147.html

https://westernmass.craigslist...lity/6828459659.html

https://atlanta.craigslist.org...lity/6835339716.html

Check out #DO7059 in the last link.



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a few things Mark. Are you going new or used?

I do not have a pix handy but a 1 ton with a Knapahide service truck that has the raised top on it would be the "cats meow" imho.

If you were going to go that route you would definitely want a diesel.

Not sure if Chev is still doing the 6.0 in their 3/4 ton's. Good engines, just thirsty. I would not go a big block gas. Unless you found a gem early to mid 1990's with the real 454, then maybe Wink

Here is some eye candy. Big Grin

https://bloomington.craigslist...-cab/6826296147.html

https://westernmass.craigslist...lity/6828459659.html

https://atlanta.craigslist.org...lity/6835339716.html

Check out #DO7059 in the last link.

Going new. Used doesn't seem like a good deal anymore.

Strangely, I just discovered the knapheide website and if i can get something more compact, that would be ideal. This puts me back in the pickup camp. Good call!
 
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Not wanting to create a thread drift, but why are you looking at getting out of mowing?
 
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