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I don't really think this qualifies as a rant, so I'll post it here as a question to all for my own edification...
Is there a purpose to tire stretching? I watched a guy put a 215 tire on a 9.5" wide rim. Could fit a finger between the tire and the rim lip. Maybe I'm just getting old.


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I seem to see the same thing in the largely Hispanic areas that I work in. Seriously screwed up camber angles as well, must be for those high g turns these imports are making...



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Agreed, looks ridiculous. Probably unsafe too, donno.
 
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It looks hideous along with the really crazy camber angles, mostly seen on cars that couldn't get going fast enough to use more tire than they came with from the factory (Honda civics, Jetta's etc.)
 
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I watched a guy put a 215 tire on a 9.5" wide rim.
Educate me, please. Does the "215" refer to tire width measured in millimeters at the rim? If not, what does it mean?

If it is what I'm guessing it is, then that tire with is just a bit less than 8.5" so the tire is way narrower than the rim. I guess I just don't understand. I'm sure that somebody will be along to explain it to me.

Also, I don't understand Jimmy123x's comment in this context. If the tire is too narrow, as I'm guessing it is, Jimmy is talking about "more tire." I would think it is less tire, not more.

All of which shows that I really don't understand what's going on here -- waiting for an explanation.



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If it is what I'm guessing it is, then that tire with is just a bit less than 8.5" so the tire is way narrower than the rim. I guess I just don't understand. I'm sure that somebody will be along to explain it to me.

This is the width of the tire cross section at its widest point, i.e., sidewall to sidewall. Across the beads or inner portion, where the tire joins the rim, is much narrower than this, even more so if the tire has been sitting around for a long time and the beads have gotten squashed together. The tire has to be expanded a good 4-6 inches to air it up on a 9.5-inch-wide wheel. Normal wheel width for this tire is 5.5-6.5 inches.
 
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The tire has to be expanded a good 4-6 inches to air it up on a 9.5-inch-wide wheel. Normal wheel width for this tire is 5.5-6.5 inches.


A little lighter or starting fluid will seat that bead right up Wink
 
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The tire has to be expanded a good 4-6 inches to air it up on a 9.5-inch-wide wheel. Normal wheel width for this tire is 5.5-6.5 inches.


A little lighter or starting fluid will seat that bead right up Wink


Actually that's the only way to do it.

And no, there is no reason to put undersize tires on a wheel. It's a look that a lot of retards are going for these days, along with slamming the car to the ground and running ass-loads of negative camber. Stance, YO. I always hope a bearing will fail and a wheel will pop off...
 
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Some of the things that go on in the automotive business, and tires in particular, are dangerous. Look up, for example, the outer ring of a split rim blowing off. (Thankfully you don't see these much any more.) Those have been known to cut people in half.
 
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I watched a guy put a 215 tire on a 9.5" wide rim.
Educate me, please. Does the "215" refer to tire width measured in millimeters at the rim? If not, what does it mean?

If it is what I'm guessing it is, then that tire with is just a bit less than 8.5" so the tire is way narrower than the rim. I guess I just don't understand. I'm sure that somebody will be along to explain it to me.

Also, I don't understand Jimmy123x's comment in this context. If the tire is too narrow, as I'm guessing it is, Jimmy is talking about "more tire." I would think it is less tire, not more.

All of which shows that I really don't understand what's going on here -- waiting for an explanation.


My comment means: You see this typically on a car that is not fast enough to even use or benefit from a wider tire than what the factory puts on a vehicle.
 
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Wide rims with narrower tires? Looks like crap to me - looks like the bead will tear away from the rim with ease.



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Actually that's the only way to do it.

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Um. No.

There are "belts" and mechanical "vises" that are wrapped around the circumference and will result in the bead being pushed to the rim.

I have a pretty good bit of experience with drop flange, split rim, one peice rim from little bity aircraft up to really big aircraft, and not so high pressure to some of those crazy pressures,

and in hydraulic/pneudraulic/pneumatic systems up to to 5000PSI.

Pressure can kill you. High pressure can kill you faster and more completely.

"Flame starting" a tire bead seal is back alley Russian Roulette.




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Wide rim with a tire that has narrow tread surface area because it's not designed for that width rim.

Allows them to drop the car into the weeds or slam it and because the tread pattern is narrow it fits under the fender when the suspension is lowered,

A tire made for the wider rim wouldn't fit as it'd be as wide on top as it is on the rim and would rub the inner fender well, this means they don't have to do the work to fix the inner fender wells, flare out the fenders, or spend money on proper suspension work.

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Never gave it thought, but found these videos looking into the topic:



Link to original video: https://youtu.be/xhDkPBJKsb4




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/BvGxzC4MqFg
 
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HRK answered the question of why not just use low profile tires.

But it doesn't make it smart or safe.




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Just no...so very stupid... Roll Eyes


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At one time there used to be a reason for tire stretching. About 40/45 years ago the locals that went out on the dunes here on the Oregon coast didn't have the dune tires of today. They would use somewhat bald and too tall tires and stretch them onto the wide rim to make a quasi dune tire for their 4X4.
 
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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:...

Actually that's the only way to do it.

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Um. No.

There are "belts" and mechanical "vises" that are wrapped around the circumference and will result in the bead being pushed to the rim.

I have a pretty good bit of experience with drop flange, split rim, one peice rim from little bity aircraft up to really big aircraft, and not so high pressure to some of those crazy pressures,

and in hydraulic/pneudraulic/pneumatic systems up to to 5000PSI.

Pressure can kill you. High pressure can kill you faster and more completely.

"Flame starting" a tire bead seal is back alley Russian Roulette.


I mean I hear you on the split rims and whatnot.

I was talking about for one piece car wheels. I have a friend that runs a tire business geared toward amateur racers. He says the starter fluid method is the only way to go.

He charges extra for this. lol
 
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I figured it was to get a "style." I just don't get it. Question raised by a YouTube video of said wheels being mounted on a Honda NSX. On top of it, they were a 35 sidewall. Looked like a rubber band on a set of expensive rims (TE-37 if you care).
Anyway, looked stupid as hell. And thank you all for the info. I didn't think there could be a legitimate reason behind it.


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