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If you're not happy with your phone's performance, perhaps you can do a facotry reset, which I assume will roll the OS back.

NOTE: I'm not saying that's the way to go, but maybe worth investigating.
 
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If you're not happy with your phone's performance, perhaps you can do a facotry reset, which I assume will roll the OS back.

NOTE: I'm not saying that's the way to go, but maybe worth investigating.


No it doesn’t. A hard reset does a software reset, an IOS update is a firmware upgrade.


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At the risk of being accused of drifting away from the thread, I have a question regarding battery life in cell phones in general.

I typically recharge my phone when it reaches 50-60% or so. I've been told that will lower the life span of the battery in the long term and that I should wait till it reaches 10-20%. Is there any truth in that advice?

Jim


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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
At the risk of being accused of drifting away from the thread, I have a question regarding battery life in cell phones in general.

I typically recharge my phone when it reaches 50-60% or so. I've been told that will lower the life span of the battery in the long term and that I should wait till it reaches 10-20%. Is there any truth in that advice?

Jim


I've been using this iphone 6 since 12/2014. I like to charge the phone when the battery gets low, usually < 10%, and I charge it up to 100% nearly every time. I don't like incomplete charge cycles.

My observation is the battery performs almost as good as day 1.


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MY iPhone 6 Plus is 2.5 years old and I started to experience rapid depletion of the battery, and very slow performance.
Just got back from Mr. Fix It, where he replaced the battery with a new fresh one. It took him all of 10 minutes and now the phone appears to charge quicker......I will update after I have run it a couple days.
 
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The Apple store will sodomize you, so I am looking for alternatives sources that can do it reasonably priced.


Tim Cook will do that for free.


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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
At the risk of being accused of drifting away from the thread, I have a question regarding battery life in cell phones in general.

I typically recharge my phone when it reaches 50-60% or so. I've been told that will lower the life span of the battery in the long term and that I should wait till it reaches 10-20%. Is there any truth in that advice?

Jim


I've been using this iphone 6 since 12/2014. I like to charge the phone when the battery gets low, usually < 10%, and I charge it up to 100% nearly every time. I don't like incomplete charge cycles.

My observation is the battery performs almost as good as day 1.


I charge my iPhone 5 every which way possible. Battery is still fine with heavy use.
 
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Originally posted by rsd1220:
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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
At the risk of being accused of drifting away from the thread, I have a question regarding battery life in cell phones in general.

I typically recharge my phone when it reaches 50-60% or so. I've been told that will lower the life span of the battery in the long term and that I should wait till it reaches 10-20%. Is there any truth in that advice?

Jim


I've been using this iphone 6 since 12/2014. I like to charge the phone when the battery gets low, usually < 10%, and I charge it up to 100% nearly every time. I don't like incomplete charge cycles.

My observation is the battery performs almost as good as day 1.


I charge my iPhone 5 every which way possible. Battery is still fine with heavy use.


Thanks for the info. I just got a new LG G6 with no removable battery and hope to keep it for 3-4 years. My previous phones were Samsung S series that had removable batteries and I just kept extra on hand.

As a side note, I'm really loving this phone and I will never go down the Apple drain.

Jim


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Tell me another device that behaves like this?


Android products. Google “android lag” and read all about it.


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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
At the risk of being accused of drifting away from the thread, I have a question regarding battery life in cell phones in general.

I typically recharge my phone when it reaches 50-60% or so. I've been told that will lower the life span of the battery in the long term and that I should wait till it reaches 10-20%. Is there any truth in that advice?

Jim


I've been using this iphone 6 since 12/2014. I like to charge the phone when the battery gets low, usually < 10%, and I charge it up to 100% nearly every time. I don't like incomplete charge cycles.

My observation is the battery performs almost as good as day 1.


I charge my iPhone 5 every which way possible. Battery is still fine with heavy use.


Thanks for the info. I just got a new LG G6 with no removable battery and hope to keep it for 3-4 years. My previous phones were Samsung S series that had removable batteries and I just kept extra on hand.

As a side note, I'm really loving this phone and I will never go down the Apple drain.

Jim


So you’re the guy that bought the LG G6 Razz


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It's NOT the battery, that's an excuse.

I bought my iPhone 7 just over a year ago. It has had an apple battery case on it since new and between the 2 will last 3 entire days with a lot of use before needing a charge. But the phone battery itself is almost always on 100% (it uses the case battery first). After the last update it slowed down considerably and I didn't know why until I came on Sigforum.
 
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It's NOT the battery, that's an excuse.

I bought my iPhone 7 just over a year ago. It has had an apple battery case on it since new and ... the phone battery itself is almost always on 100% (it uses the case battery first).

All that doesn't matter. The phone "knows" the "wear condition" of the internal battery. I would almost bet the rent that's the metric they use. If so: Charge level does not matter.

There's an app you can install that will tell you the wear state of the internal battery. I forget what it's called. My 6S was "new old stock" or the like. Still had the plastic on the glass. Nonetheless: Battery "wear" had it down to something like 85% or the like? Whereas my brand new iPad was at something like 98%.

Just looked: "Battery Life" it's called. Claims my iPad is at 96% and my iPhone 6S is at 87%. Charge level is inconsequential.



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If Apple would have issued a news release noting the software change and informed users that a new battery would restore performance it would be no big deal. But now the question is what else are they not saying about software upgrades?

You have to install it to find out what has changed! Has a familiar sound to me.
 
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I have owned/used iPhones since the 3GS, I always put them on the charger Every nite regardless of % of battery remaining. Never have any problems, also install updates as soon as they are released.
Currently have an 8S and have never noticed any "slow down"..


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It boils down to this let us do the toggling! If I am experiencing a weak battery let me decide if my cpu should be toggled down to save battery. Let me decide if I need a new battery, don’t just toggle down my cpu on my phone to save my battery. These phones at running us $700-1000 I want control of my purchases . I suspected this was the case for some time. If they were doing this to save my battery life and not for financial reasons why not put his out in the open, explain it let me decide and choose. I say it is BS they did this now they come clean once they get caught. I also have suspected this happening with my IPad. Screw Apple


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I have owned/used iPhones since the 3GS, I always put them on the charger Every nite regardless of % of battery remaining. Never have any problems, also install updates as soon as they are released.
Currently have an 8S and have never noticed any "slow down"..


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(/QUOTE) As a side note, I'm really loving this phone and I will never go down the Apple drain.

Jim[/QUOTE]

So you’re the guy that bought the LG G6 Razz[/QUOTE]

Yep, that was me. At less than half the price of the S8+ or the iPhone X with basically the same performance and an awesome camera, it was a no brainer.

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Tell me another device that behaves like this?


Android products. Google “android lag” and read all about it.



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It's NOT the battery, that's an excuse.

I bought my iPhone 7 just over a year ago. It has had an apple battery case on it since new and ... the phone battery itself is almost always on 100% (it uses the case battery first).

All that doesn't matter. The phone "knows" the "wear condition" of the internal battery. I would almost bet the rent that's the metric they use. If so: Charge level does not matter.

There's an app you can install that will tell you the wear state of the internal battery. I forget what it's called. My 6S was "new old stock" or the like. Still had the plastic on the glass. Nonetheless: Battery "wear" had it down to something like 85% or the like? Whereas my brand new iPad was at something like 98%.

Just looked: "Battery Life" it's called. Claims my iPad is at 96% and my iPhone 6S is at 87%. Charge level is inconsequential.


Ok, but you don't understand the battery case. Battery wear is from charge cycles mainly. I think after 500 charge cycles the batteries start to degrade. With the Apple Battery case, the phone uses the entire battery case PRIOR to using the phone's battery. So my phone battery is always at 100% (because I usually charge it everynight). So the phones battery gets degraded much much less, because it's never being discharged, always the apple battery case first.

Update: I just downloaded the battery wear level app, and it said 3% wear..wear level very low.......so my battery is at 97% new. AND, the latest IOS update slowed my iPhone 7 down noticeably.
 
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
It's NOT the battery, that's an excuse.

I bought my iPhone 7 just over a year ago. It has had an apple battery case on it since new and ... the phone battery itself is almost always on 100% (it uses the case battery first).

All that doesn't matter. The phone "knows" the "wear condition" of the internal battery. I would almost bet the rent that's the metric they use. If so: Charge level does not matter.

There's an app you can install that will tell you the wear state of the internal battery. I forget what it's called. My 6S was "new old stock" or the like. Still had the plastic on the glass. Nonetheless: Battery "wear" had it down to something like 85% or the like? Whereas my brand new iPad was at something like 98%.

Just looked: "Battery Life" it's called. Claims my iPad is at 96% and my iPhone 6S is at 87%. Charge level is inconsequential.


Ok, but you don't understand the battery case. Battery wear is from charge cycles mainly. I think after 500 charge cycles the batteries start to degrade. With the Apple Battery case, the phone uses the entire battery case PRIOR to using the phone's battery. So my phone battery is always at 100% (because I usually charge it everynight). So the phones battery gets degraded much much less, because it's never being discharged, always the apple battery case first.

Update: I just downloaded the battery wear level app, and it said 3% wear..wear level very low.......so my battery is at 97% new. AND, the latest IOS update slowed my iPhone 7 down noticeably.


The phone runs on the battery all the time. Even if plugged in. So if the phone is on, battery wear is happening.


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