LMT, Sig, and Glock. The LMT plant is just across the river in Milan IL, but they're moving to IA. Every weekday morning they test fire LOTS of rifles at the range I belong to.

Headline and lead paragraphs:

The protectors: Officers from three specialist units who descended on Parsons Green after Tube blast are unveiled as the new face of anti-terrorism

The new face of anti-terrorism was unveiled yesterday as officers from three specialist units descended on Parsons Green.

British Transport Police’s specialist firearms officers ran through the streets as they attempted to defuse the situation in the wake of the Tube blast.

The elite officers are trained to respond to terror threats and work throughout the London Underground Network.

The unit, which was launched in 2002 to respond to terror attacks on public transport, carry Glock 17 pistols and LMT Defender AR-15 variant rifles...

Complete article with photos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ace-anti-terror.html

It's about time.

I gotta say, though, that in that video link in the article the officer shooting pistol and carbine is not displaying an "elite" level of shooting skill.

I thought a "torch" was a light, not a red dot

You can have all the tactical anti terror teams you want but when the people in charge of your nation are fucking idiots it won't change a damn thing.

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Originally posted by cmr076:
I thought a "torch" was a light, not a red dot

Give them a break, it's the Mail - gutter journalism, almost anyway...

Well it is the UK.

Give them a break...

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Nothing new here, folks, instead the old and tired piss-taking of the British armed response teams that I've gotten used to over the years on numerous US-based fora.

See - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/...olice-armed-attacks/

In 2016, the Metropolitian Police unveiled a new force of 'super cops' to take on the terrorist thinking of targeting Britain.

The heavily-armed unit are part of a new wave of 600 highly trained marksmen deployed onto the streets of London each day.

Similar units are being rolled out in other major UK cities.

Yadda yadda. As well as being able to call instantly on the SAS, police armed response units - called TFA's - have been part of the landscape since the early 1980s, as anybody who has been to UK within the last thirty-odd years would tell you. The armed police presence at many trains stations and airports, as well as ferry ports all over the UK should, by now, have given you a better idea about how seriously the UK takes its counter terrorism. Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s.

So far this year, according to various sources, over fifty terrorist plots have been foiled in England alone.

tac

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Nothing new here, folks, instead the old and tired piss-taking of the British armed response teams that I've gotten used to over the years on numerous US-based fora.

See - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/...olice-armed-attacks/

In 2016, the Metropolitian Police unveiled a new force of 'super cops' to take on the terrorist thinking of targeting Britain.

The heavily-armed unit are part of a new wave of 600 highly trained marksmen deployed onto the streets of London each day.

Similar units are being rolled out in other major UK cities.

Yadda yadda. As well as being able to call instantly on the SAS, police armed response units - called TFA's - have been part of the landscape since the early 1980s, as anybody who has been to UK within the last thirty-odd years would tell you. The armed police presence at many trains stations and airports, as well as ferry ports all over the UK should, by now, have given you a better idea about how seriously the UK takes its counter terrorism. Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s.

So far this year, according to various sources, over fifty terrorist plots have been foiled in England alone.

tac

Hooooooly smokes, 50?

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
...Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s...

Goes back further than that, doesn't it? All those Thompsons that showed up in Belfast were shipped on our dime back in the 1920's, I believe. I'm not proud of that.

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Originally posted by newtoSig765:

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
...Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s...

Goes back further than that, doesn't it? All those Thompsons that showed up in Belfast were shipped on our dime back in the 1920's, I believe. I'm not proud of that.

Two 1928 models I looked at in the Laddas Drive forensic firearms unit were clearly stamped 'US Treasury Department'. I sure wish they could have spoken to me...

tac

I hope that this anti terrorist group will soon reach the status of the MI5 and MI6 folks. maybe someday as good as the Royal marines.

it is a start.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s.



tac

Please tell me you are not implying the US Government has sponsored terrorism in the UK.

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Originally posted by Sig209:

quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley:
Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s.



tac

Please tell me you are not implying the US Government has sponsored terrorism in the UK.

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I was about to ask about that. I had never heard of it before.

I believe that would be jars in irish bars, esp Boston.

What I believe tacfoley is referring to is support by some US citizens for the IRA, including providing donations of money and illicit firearms, dating back to the 1920s but most prevalent in the 1960s-1980s. Money would be collected from American sympathizers, and Irish-American agents of the IRA and members of the Irish Mob would then use these funds to purchase firearms (sometimes legally but often illegally) in the US, then smuggle them overseas to the IRA. The two most notable/infamous examples were quantities of Thomson SMGs smuggled from the US to Ireland in the 1920s, and later quantities of Armalite AR-18 rifles smuggled in the 1970s, but there were a wide variety of guns smuggled from the US to Ireland this way.

However, these guns and money were provided by private US citizens, often of Irish descent, who sympathized with the IRA. As far as I know, there was no US government support or sponsorship for the IRA.

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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
I believe that would be jars in irish bars, esp Boston.

This was one of the more blatant methods of collecting, and the only one I can confirm from what my own Irish-descendant ancestors told me. There were rumors of other methods, including, if I remember correctly, the Irish Sweepstakes. I could be wrong about that, but soliciting collections during Sunday Mass in Catholic Churches happened as well.

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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
I believe that would be jars in irish bars, esp Boston.

If that is the case he should change the wording of his assertion.

I am aware that private individuals / groups in the US supported IRA terrorists both financially and otherwise.

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Originally posted by Sig209:

quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley:
Let's not forget that here we have had home-grown and often US-funded and armed terrorism since the early 1970s.
tac

Please tell me you are not implying the US Government has sponsored terrorism in the UK.

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That's not what I wrote. There is an indisputable paper trail of the provision of multiple shipments of small arms to the PIRA, funded by well-meaning citizens of the USA, mainly from bar-room collections during the 1970's and 80's. The last active sniper in Northern Ireland, whose last victim, L/Cpl Restorick, came from a nearby city, used a privately-purchased Barrett semi-auto to shoot him.

Please read - ...There were also Irish Americans who, while claiming to be "aiding the families of political prisoners," were in fact helping to arm IRA terrorists. Throughout the 1970s, until Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher asked President Ronald Reagan to stop them, they were the IRA's primary source of funding. And even after that they were widely tolerated.

The range of Americans who were unbothered by this sort of thing was surprisingly wide. Some were members of Congress, such as Republican Rep. Peter King of Long Island, who stayed with IRA supporters on visits to Northern Ireland and drank at a Belfast club called the Felons, whose members were all IRA ex-cons. Some were born in Ireland, such as Michael Flannery, Noraid's founder, who once said that "the more British soldiers sent home from Ulster in coffins, the better," and whose flattering obituary in 1995 described him as a man who "treated everyone he met with gentle respect." Some were Americans of Irish descent, such as Tom McBride, a businessman who is still the chairman of the Hartford chapter of Noraid, and who still refuses to condemn IRA terrorism. "I think they are protecting a segment of the population that needs to be protected," he told me over the phone.

The only weapons I helped to recover were all made in the USA. Nuff said, I think.

tac

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
What I believe tacfoley is referring to is support by some US citizens for the IRA, including providing donations of money and illicit firearms, dating back to the 1920s but most prevalent in the 1960s-1980s. Money would be collected from American sympathizers, and Irish-American agents of the IRA and members of the Irish Mob would then use these funds to purchase firearms (sometimes legally but often illegally) in the US, then smuggle them overseas to the IRA. The two most notable/infamous examples were quantities of Thomson SMGs smuggled from the US to Ireland in the 1920s, and later quantities of Armalite AR-18 rifles smuggled in the 1970s, but there were a wide variety of guns smuggled from the US to Ireland this way.

However, these guns and money were provided by private US citizens, often of Irish descent, who sympathized with the IRA. As far as I know, there was no US government support or sponsorship for the IRA.

Thank you.

tac