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March 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
Kevmo
Leaky Window Repair Question(s)
So i am using some of my new found downtime to do some repairs around the house and one of the things I discovered needing attention is a leaky stationary aluminum window on the "weather" side of my house.

Here are my issues...The leak seems to be on the bottom corers and there is a white plastic trim piece that more or less fell apart when i tried to remove it. When removed it reveled a small gap with hard rubber spacers holding the actual window in place and I am not sure how to address the leak with this kind of window and how to replace the plastic trim as I cannot seem to find it anywhere.

Ordinarily I would just caulk the shit out of the thing but I dont want to make things worse.

Anyone else ever deal with this?
March 25, 2020, 05:31 PM
BigWhup
If you are talking the outside of the window, I have similar at my house because the damned rough opening is too big for the window.

The window had what looked like a piece of simple crown molding trim installed at the top, which of course was rotten. I replaced it with a piece of the same type molding but the kind made out of pvc.

Then I just caulked the shit out it!! LMAO
March 25, 2020, 05:50 PM
Kevmo
I believe the part in question is called Vinyl Window Snap in Bead and apparently it is not a local thing.

This is on the inside of the wisndow.

If all else fails I guess I could "caulk the shit out of it then use a spray foam to fill the gaps...the windows in question are behind wood plantation shutters
March 25, 2020, 05:59 PM
whanson_wi
Is it an old-style storm window? If so, the bottom is supposed to allow some drainage.


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March 25, 2020, 07:04 PM
cparktd
Some good photos would help eliminate a lot of speculation...



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March 25, 2020, 07:34 PM
jimmy123x
Caulk the shit out of it with 3M 5200. It won't leak and you'll practically need an oscillating saw to cut the 5200 out if you decide to change the window later. We use it on yachts and it is REALLY strong caulk. Make sure to tape both sides with blue tape so you have a nice edge. Caulk it and then smooth the bead out with a wet finger. Peel the tape carefully before the 5200 is dry.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-Ma...Sanded-Caulk/3020020
March 25, 2020, 08:26 PM
MikeinNC
The 5200 Jimmy is talking about is an adhesive designed for marine uses...and it will never fail short of fire...don’t use that for what you need...

W/o pics this is all conjecture..but if your are not gonna tear them out and start over, just use some silicone caulking and use a wet tool or a wet finger to push it into war you need it to go and then shape it so it will run water off and towards the exterior when it rains.



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March 25, 2020, 11:13 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
The 5200 Jimmy is talking about is an adhesive designed for marine uses...and it will never fail short of fire...don’t use that for what you need...

W/o pics this is all conjecture..but if your are not gonna tear them out and start over, just use some silicone caulking and use a wet tool or a wet finger to push it into war you need it to go and then shape it so it will run water off and towards the exterior when it rains.


He is bedding a fixed window on the side of his house that never opens. 5200 is the perfect sealant to use because it will stick to old weathered/ half rotten wood (even if it's damp) whereas silicone will not. You can cut through 5200 with a razor knife if you need to remove it. It is not fun but I've removed and re-bedded dozens of deck hatches, port holes and everything in between that were put in with 5200. The OP most likely doesn't ever want it to fail as it's a window attached to the side of his house.

If it was a narrow gap and the wood (or stucco) around it was good, by all means I would use silicone.
March 26, 2020, 06:06 AM
odin
Don't, don't, don't use spray foam to fill the gap. I tried this around a window (from the inside) and the stuff worked like a charm.... BUT, it became as hard as cement and put pressure on the window, enough so that once opened, I couldn't shut it. A couple hours of chiseling that stuff out and the window was usable again!!!
March 26, 2020, 07:22 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by odin:
Don't, don't, don't use spray foam to fill the gap. I tried this around a window (from the inside) and the stuff worked like a charm.... BUT, it became as hard as cement and put pressure on the window, enough so that once opened, I couldn't shut it. A couple hours of chiseling that stuff out and the window was usable again!!!


Spray foam is fine to fill gaps around window and door frames. You just have to be selective about which spray foam you use. Some spray foam expands aggressively, and can put excessive pressure on the frame, as you discovered.

Instead, look for a minimally expanding, flexible spray foam. These are often marketed as specifically for windows and doors, like so: https://www.greatstuff.dupont....or-foam-sealant.html
March 26, 2020, 12:25 PM
Kevmo
Thanks for the input so far...I will try and post pics later but yest it is the inside of a fixed aluminum frame window.
March 26, 2020, 12:58 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by Kevmo:
Thanks for the input so far...I will try and post pics later but yest it is the inside of a fixed aluminum frame window.


5200 would bond perfectly if you want a permanent bond. Sikaflex 221 is also a good adhesive for what you're doing and sticks well to glass and aluminum and yacht builders use it for bedding large windows into aluminum frames. There are both VERY long lasting products and blow away any silicone or caulk that you'll buy at home depot when it comes to longevity.

https://www.merrittsupply.com/...dhesive-and-sealant/