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I'll be driving to California soon, and want to bring a handgun along for protection.

Can anyone in CA tell me if I would have a problem keeping either of the following two guns in my rented cabin:

1. Glock 27 Gen4
2. Sig P220 .45

Both of these have <= 10 round magazines, but I read somewhere that Gen4 Glocks are verboten. Is that true? Any problem bringing the Sig?

Thanks



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No. They are not forbidden, just not approved for sale. You can bring them in. You can't list them on you CHL, but you won't be able to get one of those anyway.

10 rounds or less. No loaded guns. Keep them locked in a container or in the trunk.




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No problems, visiting citizens aren't slaves to the handgun roster. The roster is basically applies to buying/selling thru a LGS or FFL (PPT exempted) of guns listed on the roster, but not possession.

When driving in CA with a handgun, it needs to be in a locked container, unloaded. Glove compartment does not qualify, but the trunk does.



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Thanks everyone. Am I allowed to keep a loaded weapon in my cabin? Or does it have to be unloaded?



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AFAIK (don't keep up to date given CCW possession) but I think Jallen and oddball are correct.

Maybe take a peek here under Title 4?
http://leginfo.legislature.ca....6.&chapter=&article=




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Originally posted by 4x5:
Thanks everyone. Am I allowed to keep a loaded weapon in my cabin? Or does it have to be unloaded?


Yes. Loaded is fine but unloaded between car and cabin.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Thanks everyone. Am I allowed to keep a loaded weapon in my cabin? Or does it have to be unloaded?


Yes. Loaded is fine but unloaded between car and cabin.


Thanks JALLEN. What a screwed-up state California has become. I'm glad you got out of there Smile



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Originally posted by JALLEN:
No. They are not forbidden, just not approved for sale. You can bring them in. You can't list them on you CHL, but you won't be able to get one of those anyway.

10 rounds or less. No loaded guns. Keep them locked in a container or in the trunk.

This is close enough for the OP's purposes while traveling , but is a little too broad brush about the permits. Also, read the CA PC, but I believe that a hotel room, house where overnighting, camper, probably even a tent is considered a domicile and a gun could legally be loaded and ready to go there. Don't take my word for it though, read the law.

Those pistols are not on the roster, so can't be sold new to a citizen who is not LE. One who lives out of state and owns one can move to CA (becoming a resident if they are crazy enough to do that) and bring in (with some newly added monkey motion involving an FFL) pistols he already owns that are not on the roster. An LEO can buy an off roster pistol. Either of these folks can decide they no longer want the pistol (or pistols) anymore and sell it in a private party transaction (PPT), face to face at an FFL.

As far as what you pistol(s) you can put on your permit (currently called a Licence To Carry or LTC), that depends on your issuing agency's policy. Some require the pistol(s) to be registered to you, some don't. Some may require the pistol(s) to be on roster, some don't. Neither of the two pistols on my CA LTC (a P228 & a P7M8) are currently on the roster. The P320 that is going to replace the P7M8 on my next renewal has never been on the roster. My Sheriff has no issue with that, but other agencies may have other policies.

ETA: oops, typed too slow and most has already been clarified. Sorry!
 
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...if I would have a problem keeping either of the following two guns in my rented cabin...

<= 10 round magazines...

Because you said "cabin" I expect you will be far from San Francisco.

Last I heard, SanFran is the only area where a firearm must be on your person or stored in a locked contain while inside your home.

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Originally posted by 4x5:
...if I would have a problem keeping either of the following two guns in my rented cabin...

<= 10 round magazines...

Because you said "cabin" I expect you will be far from San Francisco.

Last I heard, SanFran is the only area where a firearm must be on your person or stored in a locked contain while inside your home.

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We'll be at Lake Tahoe



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One final thought:

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California gun owners are required to safely store firearms when they know (or should know) that children may be present.

In California, a person commits criminal storage of a firearm (in the third degree) by keeping or leaving a loaded firearm in a place where the defendant knows (or should have known) that a child under the age of 18 is likely to gain access to the gun without permission of the child’s parent or guardian, and the defendant does not take reasonable steps to secure the firearm. (Cal. Pen. Code, § 25105.)




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Unloaded goes as far as meaning a loaded magazine sitting next to your gun in your locked case in your vehicle trunk. Loaded magazine inserted in gun = loaded, round in chamber or not doesn't matter.
 
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I point out that Nevada is also a nice vacation spot with cabins and all. Just sayin'. I fled SF in '93. I ain't going back. For any reason.
 
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In California you may have a loaded gun in your hotel room, campsite or, related, RV when it is parked for the night. You don't have any "duty to retreat" or other nonsense either. This is a holdover from its "Wild West" roots that they haven't purged (yet).
 
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