Frankly, the more we "talk" the more it seems just like more propaganda from our side.

I am not a war monger but I think NK will likely only respond to force.

Thoughts??

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Maybe. What's the diff? As long as they do nothing why must we do something?

"To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war."
-- Winston Churchill

There really are no good answers. It's easy for us to say we're done talking when it's the millions of people in Seoul who will have to pay the price for action.

Agree with your thoughts. Maybe a better questions is are we OK with NK continuing to fire missiles over our allies? When do we start taking the threat seriously? When something is headed our way? They are not standing still.

I guess we could always wait until they can hit us then decide it is time to talk more??

We really can't take a first strike action with Seoul SK so close to the border and Lil kim all lined up with his military. The nukes he has aren't really a threat as he understands any real action on his part results in his country being fried and melted. I think we are stuck with his constant mouth.

Unfortunately anything done will only result in a lose/lose situation ~ politically.

Wait until they do something to someone ~ he didn't act soon enough.
Act preemptively then he is a monger.
THEN we have to PAY for the whole mess rebuilding etc.

No good choices here.

Even without using nukes, he could kill millions of people within the first few minutes. The 4th largest city in the world is 30 miles from the border. It has 3 1/2 times the population of NYC within artillery and conventional rocket range.

If he has tunneled under the border and can set off any type of nuke, the damage goes up tremendously. If he has any sort of missile with nuclear capability, that goes up even more. He doesn't need an ICBM and a hydrogen bomb although that would make it even worse.

Could that eventually happen anyway? Yes but all other options have to be tried first. This is not an easy problem otherwise it would already be handled.

No good answer. I think that calling him out as a fucktard is the best short term solution. I do not think we can strike first in any case, but if he does attack us our our buddies, we reply in kind but with 100 times the vigor.

When someone attacks you, you are fully expected to respond with any and all force

When someone is supporting those that are directly attacking you and providing the means to do so, you have motivation to attack, but it will not be received well by many and is a rocky road.

Attacking someone who has only threatened and has questionable ability to really strike, is a really dangerous line to cross.

Striking NORK could send a really bad message around the world. To some we're a savior, to many we're just a bully.

The South Koreans should install barbecue pits on their side of the DMZ and smoke briskets whenever the wind is out of the south. In six weeks the people of North Korea would overthrow their cruel leader because of their shitty groceries, and peace would reign supreme.

Local online poll. Nashville TN.

~2 to 1 in favor of Trumps position, likely not what they were expecting, yet they still noted the results on air during their news broadcast just now.



If interested in voting...
http://wkrn.com/2017/09/19/pol...on-north-korea-wise/

Who are we kidding? China must do something to quiet this a$$wipe. China will never stand for US troops close to their border.

i would bet once kim lets his army out of the country they will defect in mass numbers

Unless China steps in to topple the little bastard we will eventually end up in a shooting war there, and it will be ugly. I think the N. Korean leadership is a house of cards. Kim and his father before him have killed everyone who dared to disagree with them so all that is left are yes men. He believes his own propaganda because no one will tell him he is full of crap. To me the best outcome would be for thinking generals internally to stage a coup and shoot the little asshole in the head. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Nothing will happen and this will continue to fester

Delay until we've had time to replenish our abandoned supply of tacnukes.


And until the satellite killers positioned by the x37B are ready to take out the two EMP delivery satellites Lil Kim has in orbit.

The only way to stop NK without using force will be to make China to do it. That won't happen though because our economic ties are too deep.

I'm not worried about NK (or Iran for that matter) shooting a nuke at us or our allies. They both are not that stupid. What I am afraid of though is NK or Iran giving a nuclear device to someone who will use it against us. I believe they both would gladly give one to a terrorist organization and let them try to nuke us or Israel.

For that reason NK and Iran need to be de-nuclearized.

I see it as Trump teasing the 'rocket man' trying to get him to flinch first. I think Trump should increase the rhetoric like a kid on the playground teasing another until he punches the bully out of frustration. It's the old, "punch me first, I dare you" routine.


Then we can lay down the law.

"North Korea: Why the West freaks out but South Korea doesn’t"

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/...-alarmed-south-korea

Not a single thing will happen if present things continue to occur.

Rocket Man is using Iran as his model since we blustered and pounded the world's lectern but in the end, Iran kept the nuke technology and we allow it to be developed at faster pace.

Rocket Man (love that BTW) has a great supporting cast in China and Russia which knows that it will not support his overthrow if it means new leadership more friendly to the US. A similar replacement that's not so nuts would work but then S. Korea will be uneasy with a hostile country's weapons still aimed at them and a new leader will be nearly the same as the old leader.

No good answers here but putting pressure on China is the best non-shooting way to make a change. What the US ought to do is find a way, once Rocket Man is gone, to spread the word about how good life is in S. Korea and hope some seeds of doubt about communism are planted and grow.