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Originally posted by az4783054:
It wouldn't bother me to see a few of those elite hollywood celebrities paying out a good % of their wealth.

I get that sentiment, but sooner or later they'll come for everyone else, too. Then it'll be too late.

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Originally posted by az4783054:
It wouldn't bother me to see a few of those elite hollywood celebrities paying out a good % of their wealth.

Yeah, the thing about our tax law is that you won't get penalized if you want to pay more to the US Treasury. Buffet, Gates, Bezos and all the "socialists" in Hollywood are free to pay a 50%-70% or more tax rate if they want to. No one, including Uncle Sam, will stop them.



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Originally posted by az4783054:
It wouldn't bother me to see a few of those elite hollywood celebrities paying out a good % of their wealth.

No matter how high and mighty they may act, even celebs will eventually vote with their feet and get out of Cali when they feel the pinch.

Here's the thing that gets me- and I've seen this repeatedly when some politician or other makes some decision, or chooses a running mate or whatever- People pop up and say "(insert name of politician) just lost the election" or "...just won the election" or "...just threw away his chances."

Over and over I see this. Now, tell me, guys- honestly, do you really think that before Joe Biden's handlers chose Kamala Harris as his VP, Donald Trump would have lost this election, and that this decision of picking Harris is the deciding factor in his winning a second term?

Come on. Donald Trump is going to have a second term. He was going to have a second term before Harris was chosen, and the choice of Harris doesn't mean he's going to really, really, really have a second term.

I don't know why people feel the need to say this kind of thing- that this one thing is the deciding factor. Do people think it makes them look politically savvy, to make these empty declarations? It doesn't make them look savvy; quite the opposite, actually. It's damn silly.

Oh, yes, "Trump was in trouble before Harris was declared, but now, he's on easy street." Well, thank goodness the outcome didn't hinge on Donald Trump's strong leadership and his increasing political acumen, otherwise, he'd be in real trouble without Harris in the picture!

More optimism, less pessimism

I tend to agree para. It's just what we're conditioned to now with the 24 hours news cycle. However the election goes in November, it's gonna be close and this pick and moment in the race will be a distant memory most likely.

As a fairly casual observer, what I think can safely be said after 48 hours is that the pick of Harris doesn't appear to be a massive spark plug of energy and optimism from the left. I've been fairly surprised how negatively many Democrats are reacting (not the fake news, I'm talking real people in real life). Kinda seems like a wet fart rather than a big moment.

I for one feel Harris will hurt Dementia Joe's chances.

Yeah but they will damn sure revoke the "Restoring Tax Fairness for States and Localities Act" that caps fed deduction of state taxes paid at $10k...IF they win...lets make sure that doesn't happen.

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Originally posted by recoatlift:
California leading the charge for wealth re-distribution. Blue state solution for everything, raise them taxes!

Ps...don’t forget to tack on our annual pay raises.

The election is Trumps to win or lose. He might be a genius or very savvy with a high IQ but he says stupid shit that isn't presidential. It makes you cringe, it makes his kids cringe and he acts like a 14 year old who thinks he needs to get in the last word on petty stuff.

Even with these flaws - they aren't attributes - he is a much better candidate than Joe. There's no doubt about it and Joe's handlers want to keep Joe away from the public eye or out of a controlled environment. Trump will clean his clock in an unscripted format and I'm sure of it.

Pence brings no spark to the ticket. He's rock solid, doesn't have fits of pettiness and he's not a sign of anything other than he's capable of stepping into the role if needed but has VPs go, he's like all the rest of them - sitting in the second row for 4= years.

Harris is a skank of a hack and everyone knows it and she relishes the idea that she's always in rag mode with a loud voice and she globs onto whatever the Dem mood or issue of the day is. She has no compass or sense of right or wrong but rather she just parrots what she thinks is popular. Remember how she quickly said that Jussie was a modern day lynching? That's what she does. But she's also different.

No one believes that Biden will serve out his term. Even CNN, as hack as they are, said he could do that for her. That's what I'm afraid of. It's the idea that there's already a plan in place for Biden to step aside to let her come into office as the first female and first black person to be president.

I am at a loss to explain how Jill Biden can let her obviously infirmed and of declining mental health husband go through with the stress and grind of a campaign that wear down other people. I'm convinced, as I'm sure a lot of Democrats are or hope, that the real backroom deal is that he'll resign shortly after the election and she comes in for the balance of the term and then she can run for another 2 terms on top of that for nearly a 12 year stay on the top as a progressive person who will push through the changes that BHO couldn't.

This is why I think the middle 10% is more motivated than if Biden picked Warren or Beto. Trump isn't motivating anyone who isn't already in his camp but he might motivate people by the current big city events but once that's over, if it ends shortly, he's left with an economy to rebuild, a deficit that's grown by nearly $2T so far this year and not a great economy. The free shit Joe and Kamala will appeal to making life better for free from government.

This is why I think Trump needs to be cautious and stop with the Tweets calling them dumb, idiots or fill in the blank.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
The election is Trumps to win or lose. He might be a genius or very savvy with a high IQ but he says stupid shit that isn't presidential. It makes you cringe, it makes his kids cringe and he acts like a 14 year old who thinks he needs to get in the last word on petty stuff.

Don't ever again post something like that about this man, in this forum. He SAVED YOUR ASS. All the time you've been here and you don't know to not post SHIT like this?? Don't behave like this is your first day in this forum. Members think I never refrain from saying things in this forum. Trust me- trust me- I am biting my tongue right now.

BTW, don't speak for me or for anyone else in this forum. He may make your ungrateful ass "cringe" but AFAIC, he can say whatever he wants. You should thank the man. You should get down on your knees and thank Almighty God for putting him in the right place at the right time, but I can see you don't have a clue about that.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

Although it does beg the question, as Cali continues to turn into a cesspool for most residents, and those residents continue to vote with their feet and leave, who's going to be left to pay those insane taxes? And when silicon valley feels the pinch, they'll send an unmistakable message to Sacramento to knock it off. Then what? Cali is in a death spiral, the only question remaining is how fast they intend to spin their way down the drain.

Simple solution, tax the payouts, now you've got a perpetual motion machine.

Print money, give it away, tax it, use tax revenues to print more money.

Problem solved.

Trump is the only man for the job during the current era. I can't think of a single other contemporary conservative who could bulldoze through every political obstacle the way Trump has. He's survived every false narrative, multiple attempted coups, a fake impeachment attempt, and routine sabotage by the beltway political class.

The swamp does not own Trump, and never will. The swamp and other beltway political types also recoil at Trump, not because he is brash, but because he simply can't be bought or controlled. Biden ,of course, is the polar opposite. Biden is merely a corrupt gibbering husk of the beltway crook who has been grifting his way to international fame and fortune the past four decades.

If we are keeping score, the same beltway types who hate Trump also hate every poster on this forum. All of us. We are the "deplorables" who have no place in the hellishly tyrannical nuevo America that the left wants to create.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
The election is Trumps to win or lose. He might be a genius or very savvy with a high IQ but he says stupid shit that isn't presidential. It makes you cringe, it makes his kids cringe and he acts like a 14 year old who thinks he needs to get in the last word on petty stuff.

Don't ever again post something like that about this man, in this forum. He SAVED YOUR ASS. All the time you've been here and you don't know to not post SHIT like this?? Don't behave like this is your first day in this forum. Members think I never refrain from saying things in this forum. Trust me- trust me- I am biting my tongue right now.

BTW, don't speak for me or for anyone else in this forum. He may make your ungrateful ass "cringe" but AFAIC, he can say whatever he wants. You should thank the man. You should get down on your knees and thank Almighty God for putting him in the right place at the right time, but I can see you don't have a clue about that.

My intent has never to be ungrateful for Trump. To the contrary, even with what I consider to be his flaws and shortcomings, he's been the best president we've had in a long time and he deserves and we need another 4 years of him. His record on the economy, jobs, sticking it to China and most important, is seeing that federal court vacancies are filled with conservative judges.

My education was as a PoliSci major and through that I try not only see the good for my preferred candidate like Trump but also see where he might be vulnerable. Every candidate has weak points and he's no different and Biden/Harris have the same problem. Saying, "Our side is good and perfect and the other team is fatally flawed" isn't shoring up strengths or minimizing weaknesses.

I bring up what I think are his weaknesses only because it's what I believe those swing voters will also consider as one of the many factors that rolls through their mind. They shouldn't focus on the blingy issues but rather the things that matter such as the economy, judges, unemployment, border wall and all that but they always don't.

If you don't consider that your candidate for any race or election has flaws or problem areas and a win is coming regardless, it's not a good place to be with 80 days out and Hillary proves that.

I think the race will be closer than I want it to be. I also believe tech giants will massage, lie, cheat, have unintentional errors that only hurt Trump and not Biden and each of those things, for those not thinking, they will move the needle to Biden as designed unless people realize they are being played. I also think that mail in ballots is full of fraud and there will be widespread fraud in this election and the Dems will cheat, lie and steal to win at whatever cost.

I'm in the Trump camp and always have been but I'm not going to say he's perfect.

Whatever. I feel even better after yesterday. We hear enough negative stuff from the media. I'd rather focus on how amazing he is like that press conference when he signed the EO last weekend. He rolled over them.

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Originally posted by HKAngusKL:
Trump is the only man for the job during the current era. I can't think of a single other contemporary conservative who could bulldoze through every political obstacle the way Trump has. He's survived every false narrative, multiple attempted coups, a fake impeachment attempt, and routine sabotage by the beltway political class.

The swamp does not own Trump, and never will. The swamp and other beltway political types also recoil at Trump, not because he is brash, but because he simply can't be bought or controlled. Biden ,of course, is the polar opposite. Biden is merely a corrupt gibbering husk of the beltway crook who has been grifting his way to international fame and fortune the past four decades.

If we are keeping score, the same beltway types who hate Trump also hate every poster on this forum. All of us. We are the "deplorables" who have no place in the hellishly tyrannical neuvo America that the left wants to create.

This.
Precisely.
This.

We cannot even begin to imagine how badly they want us exterminated.

I don't give a hoot in Hell if you majored in PoliSci or Pollyanna or polyester or polyunsaturated fat. I neither need nor want to hear about the man's weaknesses. Just what in the world do you think it affects, to tell the people in this forum about such things? Who are you talking to? People who need to be swayed? People who are on the fence about voting for Joe Biden?

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If you don't consider that your candidate for any race or election has flaws or problem areas and a win is coming regardless, it's not a good place to be with 80 days out and Hillary proves that.

Don't lecture me. Again, just what good do you think you're doing with this stuff?

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I think the race will be closer than I want it to be.

Who asked you? No, really- who asked you? Whether or not you think the race will be close has no bearing at all on the actual outcome. Keep it to yourself. Impress people in other venues with your magnificent PoliSci stuff. You are spouting this stuff in the wrong place. All you're managing to acccomplish is to piss me off.

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
I for one feel Harris will hurt Dementia Joe's chances.

I think this is the main reason she was chosen -- as the scapegoat for when Biden loses.

This may be my last post at your discretion but I remember, without an ounce of ambiguity or hesitation, your posts leading up to the Obama/Romney election.

You were confident that Romney was going to win, no doubt in your mind and that Obama would be done and your posts up until then were nothing besides predictive of a certain and blessed outcome. Noonan wrote that Romney felt and looked presidential and she predicted a win.

And then Romney lost.

You weren't heard from for days. Not a peep and then you came back.

Romney's greatest strength was that he wasn't Obama. Everyone knew he was a RINO and it wasn't a secret. The Romney we see today is the one we all tried to elect back then but he wasn't perfect and the voters saw through it. Instead of us saying he had problem areas, we on the forum marched forward like he was already crowned.

It got us nowwhere. I'm suggesting that if we move ahead like there's nothing wrong or nothing can go wrong or there aren't issues for the gullible public to chew on, we are looking at this election tbrough the same filtered eyes.

Good grief.

Flashlightboy: email me, please. Thank you.