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VERDICT: Jury awards Gibson’s Bakery $11 million against Oberlin college Update 2:30 p.m. — Dan tells me the judge read the verdict in court and the jury awarded $11 million. I am waiting for details as to which plaintiffs got what, and against which defendants, and for which claims. UPDATE 2 p.m. — Jury has reached a verdict. We should know soon. Friday Morning The jury has resumed deliberations. Dan McGraw is at the courthouse. We will update this post as soon as there are any developments. UPDATE by Dan McGraw, Thursday, 5 p.m.: The jury in the Gibson’s Bros. v. Oberlin College has gone home for the day, and had just one question to be answered by the court this afternoon. The question concerned the Jury Instructions, unfortunately we don’t yet have a copy of the jury instructions yet. This is what they asked, and the answer from the court (the page number is written on the top of the paper sent out): p. 12 Q. – Confusion regarding meaning of “Agent.” — Don’t understand if Bon Appetit is an agent of college that we must find in favor of defendants – should this be plaintiffs? A. No, it should not be plaintiffs. That last paragraph of page 12 is correctly written. This is the last paragraph on page 12 of the judge’s jury instruction that this question was about: “If you find Bon Appetit is an agent of Oberlin College, you must find in favor of Oberlin College, regarding Gibson Bros. claim of intentional interference with business relationships.” Trying to decipher what jury questions mean in the totality of the case are difficult to do – sometimes it might be just one juror is confused and the others aren’t – but I’ll take a brief stab at this. Bon Appetit is a private company (and does this type of work for numerous universities nationally) that Oberlin College has contracted with to run their cafeterias and other food sold on the campus. Gibson’s Bakery has provided food for the cafeteria – bagels, pastry, pizza dough – and department meetings through Bob Appetit. Witnesses had testified that Oberlin College had ordered Bon Appetit to end using food from Gibson’s following the protest for about six weeks (mid-November 2016 through late January 2017). Oberlin College had said at the trial that ending of the food provisions from Gibson’s was technically the agent they had hired so in effect they were doing it themselves, and legally they can’t interfere with themselves. So if the jury finds that Bon Appetit was merely Oberlin College’s agent, and not independently contracting with Gibson’s, then there can be no claim for tortious interference with the contract. Gibson’s brought out the employee for the college, who managed the food provision and who oversaw Bob Appetit in their food service work, testify that the college ordered Bon Appetit to cut off Gibson’s and they did so under orders from the college. What this means is the jury is confused as to what an agent is in this business relationship. But trying to read too much into this is at this point in the jury deliberations is not without too much speculation. This is just one part of lost revenue, and the jury questions could mean many things – maybe they were just getting going and this popped up, or maybe it means they had figured everything out and this was the one they couldn’t decide, or maybe something between this or that. The jury will come in Friday at 9 a.m. and continue their deliberations. Legal Insurrection will be there and have the latest news on this case. ———– EARLIER TODAY (BY WAJ) The jury has commenced deliberations as of 11:30 a.m. this morning in Gibson Bros. v. Oberlin College, the lawsuit arising out of “the worst of identity politics.” You can find background on how we got here in Putting Social Justice Warfare on trial: Gibson’s Bakery lawsuit against Oberlin College heading to trial. The jury will have to wade through lengthy jury interrogatories for each named plaintiff. You can view the blank forms here: Gibson Bros Inc. Jury Interrogatories Allyn W. Gibson Jury Interrogatories David R. Gibson Jury Interrogatories The short version of this story is that the day after the 2016 election victory by Donald Trump, a black male Oberlin College student was stopped for shoplifting wine at Gibson’s Bakery and Market in downtown Oberlin, OH. Gibson’s had been in existence since 1885, was frequented by students, and also provided baked goods to the college dining halls. A scuffle ensued that was joined by two black female Oberlin College students accompanying the male shoplifter and apparently acting in concert with him. All three eventually would plead guilty to shoplifting and aggravated trespassing, and would avow that Gibson’s was not engaged in racial profiling. But before those guilty pleas, students at the college immediately declared that Gibson’s was guilty of racial profiling, and large protests were organized outside the bakery. Flyers were passed out claiming Gibson’s was “racist” and had “a long account of racial profiling and discrimination.” The Oberlin College Dean of Students Meredith Raimondo allegedly participated in handing out the flyers in front of the bakery. The Oberlin College Student Senate also passed a resolution claiming Gibson’s “has a long history of racial profiling and discriminatory treatment of students and residents alike.” The college administration allegedly helped spread this student senate resolution. Students started a boycott of the bakery, initially joined in by the college. The college eventually resumed business with the bakery, but then terminated that business after the lawsuit was filed. Gibson’s and its owners sued the college and Raimondo for libel, tortious interference with business relationships and contracts, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and trespass. Gibson’s alleged long-term damage to its business and reputation for the allegedly defamatory accusations and other torts. The plaintiffs in closing argument asked the jury to award $12.8 million in compensatory damages. Dan McGraw is at the courthouse. We will keep you informed of any developments here, and of course, will announce the verdict as soon as it it rendered. As a reminder, here are the counts going to the jury: Count 1: Libel Count 3: Tortious Interference with Business Relationships Count 4: Tortious Interference with Contracts Count 6: Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress Here are our some of our posts when the protests against Gibson’s started, along with the early litigation history: Bakery targeted by Oberlin College #BlackLivesMatter fights back Oberlin College halted purchases from Gibson’s Bakery targeted by #BlackLivesMatter, but may reconsider Gibson’s Bakery sues Oberlin College over racial profiling accusations, Oberlin cuts business ties Oberlin College lashes out at Gibson’s Bakery, portrays itself as victim Court: Gibson’s Bakery lawsuit against Oberlin College can continue in full Oberlin College: We can’t get a fair trial in our home county Judge rejects Oberlin College request to move town-gown lawsuit to another county Gibson’s Bakery v. Oberlin College — Trump 2016 win stoked student protests over shoplifting incident day after election Putting Social Justice Warfare on trial: Gibson’s Bakery lawsuit against Oberlin College heading to trial. Here are our trial posts: Juror perceptions of reputation and social media emerge in questioning Opening Statements: Claims of War and Peace Trial Day 1 – “It was a mob mentality out there” Trial Day 2 – “I don’t know” may come back to haunt the defense Trial Day 3 – To “unleash the students” or not, that was the question Trial Day 4 – As protests grew, Mrs. Gibson was “very nervous and afraid” Trial Day 5 – 90-year-old Allyn W. Gibson testifies “some threats made to us” Trial Day 6 – What’s a bakery worth? Trial Day 7 — Damages Expert says Show Gibson’s The Money! Trial Day 8 — “my dad was going to pass away labeled as a racist” Trial Day 9 – “the business never came back” Defense motion for directed verdict DENIED, case going to the jury Alumni Weekend – Oblivious alums in for a shock if college loses Trial Day 10 – It depends upon what the meaning of the word “support” is Trial Day 11 – Don’t let them eat Gibson’s cake Trial Day 12 – Defense says Bakery worth only $35k, less than one semester at Oberlin College Trial Day 13 — Defense expert declares Gibson family 5-generation bakery history “irrelevant” Gibson’s Bakery v. Oberlin College trial reflects Higher Ed disconnect from the lives of most Americans Judge keeps out politics, but Town v. Gown frames the case Verdict this week? Closing Argument: “When a powerful institution says you are racist, you are doomed” [Featured Image Photo Credit: Legal Insurrection Foundation] —————– NOTE: Our trial coverage is a project of the Legal Insurrection Foundation. Your support helps make this type of coverage possible. https://legalinsurrection.com/...llege-verdict-watch/ I'd rather be armed and unharmed than unarmed and harmed. | ||
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Background if you have not followed this story: Three Oberlin College students went into a family bakery in town and shoplifted. They were caught, and the owners called the police. Oberlin is very far left and has been for a long time. SJWs at the college descended on the bakery and called the owners racist-- because the shoplifters were black. (Keep in mind, nobody disputed the shoplifting.) The bakery endured a series of "protests" and "demonstrations" from the students, whom the college supported, which seriously hurt their business. Now the jury has spoken-- $11 million! ![]() One of the great ironies of our times is that the "social justice warriors" are the real Brown Shirts among us, trying to advance their agendas through bullying and intimidation. I'm very pleased that the bakery won. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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yes a win for whats right in the courts doesn't happen a lot Participating in a gun buy back program because you think criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbor has too many kids "I'm only myself when I have a guitar in my hands." - George Harrison | |||
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Outstanding! Very encouraging. | |||
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Oh, no words can adequately describe how I despise these maggots. | |||
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Nelson's "Ha-ha" would be an excellent rejoinder. Not that the students care, but I'm sure the university will be increasing tuition/fees because of this. I hope it's a lot! | |||
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Oberlin has a hefty endowment, but colleges don't like to touch the endowment unless there is a dire emergency. It is used, instead, to increase the college's bond rating and secure loans at good rates. They have just under 3,000 students, so income from tuition is not enormous, and my guess would be that their annual budget is funded mainly through tuition. Bottom line: 11 million won't bring them down, but it will bring a tear to their eyes. 33 mil = a tear and a sob. The college and their fascistic students were ready to destroy this family's long standing business for absolutely no reason other than their own tyrannical political agenda. And they took one right in the nuts! ![]() ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Looking at Oberlin's financials from last year, the current judgement is about what they take from gifts and contributions for a year. If the get whalloped with 33 million, that starts to get serious, as that's about their yearly return on investments from their nearly 1 billion dollar endowment. That won't affect tuition, but it might affect the follow year's budget or draw on the endowment, and that is the kind of things that makes trustees take notice. A good win against a Goliath here. Not crippling, but maybe the kind of victory that makes the grown-ups who run a place start realizing that the children have fucked up enough. ---------------------------- Chuck Norris put the laughter in "manslaughter" Educating the youth of America, one declension at a time. | |||
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As a side note to Oberlin College, 1965 Chu-Lai Viet-Nam, Marine Recon patrol ambushes small Viet-Cong unit. Among the KIA two Caucasians one male and one female. Identification taken from the bodies identified them as students from Oberlin College. Oberlin radical then and radical now. | |||
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Source? ========================================== Just my 2¢ ____________________________ Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right ♫♫♫ | |||
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Yeah I kind of doubt the above story as well. At that time Oberlin was not as radical as the University of Wisconsin, or Cal Berkeley. Very selective admissions at that time in history. | |||
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Thanks for clarification justjoe. And good for the bakery owners. Hope they get the money, all of it. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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I'm willing to believe you, but Good Lord was that place a raving PC rathole in the early '80s. As far as I'm concerned a peepee slapping couldn't happen to a more appropriate bunch. | |||
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With a little bad publicity, donations may come down. Who wants to donate to a school that throws away the alumni's hard earned money? -c1steve | |||
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Alumni who think they've got something silly to prove. They do exist. | |||
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The money is significant, but what is the worst thing that can happen to a bully? He picks on somebody who punches him solidly right in the mouth. That is what happened to the bullies at Oberlin. They got showed up. Everybody sees that they can't actually do whatever the hell they feel like, they can't push everybody around. This small, family bakery and market thrashed the bully-- which is what Hemingway said you needed to do with bullies. Thrash them. I share your level of contempt, 12131. I loathe these leftist maggots. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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I hope individuals feel these consequences, but I wonder who will really feel it. The person in charge of alumni development (fundraising) will probably feel it, but it wasn't really his/her fault. The students who protested probably won't feel it in their wallets. It's an awesome victory and totally just. But I wish the responsible parties would end up out of a job and in the poor house, having to personally pay some of this judgment. | |||
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A Marine Corps officer, Recon authored a book in part of that writing the incident was described. I read the book in decades past but can't recall the title of the book. I was there during that time period at Chu-Lai and the incident was known by word of mouth. I don't tell lies and I'm not a liar. USMC 64-68 Viet-Nam 65-66. I have no reason to lie or make up stories. You are free to believe what you want! | |||
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Trust but verify, my man. Trust but verify. ========================================== Just my 2¢ ____________________________ Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right ♫♫♫ | |||
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