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The media has been nothing less than amazing to me the past year or so. The bullshit they run is usually so blatantly false that they should all be locked up for inciting violence. The fact that some people are so easily led by the media and the left's lies doesn't say anything good about a large part of our population.
 
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There will be a clash and some Antifa thugs will get hurt or killed. Like someone said before, they have been trained for it. Not for winning a fight, but for winning the media frenzy, afterwards.
Have you seen how they instigate violence and then the others nearby all take an "OMG pose" and shout "What are you doing?! Stop attacking her/him/xe!"

The media scripts and press releases are already written. "The Violent White Right starts a war in our streets". "Peaceful counter protesters shot by Right Wing Thugs in assault on Democracy".

They are waiting for their own "9/11 moment" to outlaw our speech (more) and confiscate our guns. They are determined to get it, even if they have to blow up a school themselves and blame it on the Right.

They are organized. We are not. They have the airwaves and talking heads. We do not.

We need to figure out how to win against the media blitz when they manufacture "their moment" so we don't see our rights swept away in a tide of hysteria.

How?


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The Antifa are, in fact, the New Fascists.



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The idiot's are even calling it justified violence for good.

When I was a kid we studied "yellow journalism" in school and I marveled how such a thing was possible.

I still marvel at the complete lunacy I am seeing on the news right now.



This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson
 
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I highly recommend watching Professor Peterson's many talks regarding the failure of the American and Canadian education systems to teach one whit of the truth of communism and socialism as it played out during the 20th century.

Specifically, Professor Peterson points to the three greatest crimes against humanity, the National Socialist German Workers Party "Final Solution", Maoist China's "Cultural Revolution" and "Great Leap Forward", and the Soviet Union's Gulag.

To that list I believe it necessary to add Cambodia's "Killing Fields" and the lesser genocides perpetrated in Africa in Angola, Congo (in its many geographical forms), Mozambique, Rhodesia and South Africa.

Collectively, these horrors killed more than 200,000,000 people by means of abuse, blades, bullets, famine, gallows, poisons, or starvation.

In every case, the Communists or Socialists perpetrated violence against one segment of society with the "media" (such as it was) cheering them on.

One day, I fear, there will be full on violence perpetrated by the leftists (note, I did not write "radical leftists") here in our country, and then there will be true Hell to pay.





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The Antifa are, in fact, the New Fascists.

Yes.
Notice how they always try to turn the meaning of words completely upside down?

Antifa is short hand for Anti-Fascists. In other words, they are accusing freedom-loving people of being Fascists.

It's similar to their use of the word "liberal", which comes from the word "liberty". These people believe in control, not "liberty".



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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The current administration needs to initiate a full court press on every angle against the ultra-violent leftists and showcase their actions each and every time they engage in their anti-social behavior.

Trump needs to call out the press each and every day for failing to report the truth. He needs to be careful to clearly say he does not support the extreme right nationalist hate groups and make the connection that there are virtually no differences in the far left and far right.

The violence of the left needs to be fully exposed, and the leftist media need to be called each and every time they fail to cover incidents neutrally. They need to be called out with the strongest language possible until they have not a single rat hole to hide their lies in.




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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
The Antifa are, in fact, the New Fascists.

Yes.
Notice how they always try to turn the meaning of words completely upside down?

Antifa is short hand for Anti-Fascists. In other words, they are accusing freedom-loving people of being Fascists.

It's similar to their use of the word "liberal", which comes from the word "liberty". These people believe in control, not "liberty".


I believe Sigmonkey refers to Anti-Fa as "Anti-First Amendment
 
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Right on, Para! The media should be put on trial for the crimes they are committing. Yes I know Freedom of the press, I am all for it, but with every freedom comes responsibility. They have the freedom part down pat; the responsibility part not so much. Put a few behind bars (for good legal reasons) and the rest will shape up quickly. It will take a lot of balls to do this. Our current President seems to have big brass ones.
Rod


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They are waiting for their own "9/11 moment" to outlaw our speech (more) and confiscate our guns. They are determined to get it, even if they have to blow up a school themselves and blame it on the Right.


This is exactly how Hitler got started, he burned down the parliament building and blamed the other side. Putin also, his KGB guy planted the Moscow apartment bombs, killed Russians, and blamed it on Chechens. He them won the election and became the current dictator.

Obama indeed gave them a taste of power, and they want it back. However I suspect those that use violence to try and grab power will find that things do not work out as intended.


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Me too. Tucker Carlson was pretty much the only news/opinion show I watched anymore, can't hardly watch it either. He has the same 4 or 5 Democrats on the show who try to respond to Carlson's questions--they can't, so instead every one of them raise their voice, try to drown out Carlson's questions, and go through their talking points, which are usually non-responsive to Carlson's questions. Maybe the worse is Richard Goodstein, former HRC campaign advisor, but the professor from U of MD does the same thing, the moronic woman from California...all of them. There's just no value in talking to any of them.


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I would like to know who is providing the funds to these violent people who are espousing anarchy.More to the point is any one in Federal Law Enforcement monitoring these people?
 
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The leftist media is wholly complicit in the Antifa movement and the violence. Many members have stepped out of the shadows of "objective" journalism and into full fledged advocacy, to the point of creating stories and narratives. Given this, if/when the shit hits the fan they need to be held accountable in whatever form that takes. If you effectively choose to pick up a weapon for a chosen side, and become a warrior, then you need to be treated as such. The media as much as anyone are causing the unrest that we are witnessing.
 
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I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm.
 
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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
The Antifa are, in fact, the New Fascists.

Yes.
Notice how they always try to turn the meaning of words completely upside down?

Antifa is short hand for Anti-Fascists. In other words, they are accusing freedom-loving people of being Fascists.

It's similar to their use of the word "liberal", which comes from the word "liberty". These people believe in control, not "liberty".


It worked for marriage, didn’t it?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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David French has an article about this in National Review today on this topic, too lengthy and complicated with tweets and video to cut and paste. See it here.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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I cleaned my rifle today.
 
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I found what you said riveting.
 
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CNN star Chris Cuomo accused of defending Antifa in monologue



CNN star Chris Cuomo is under fire for a monologue that some critics have interpreted as defending Antifa, after the militant group harassed police and members of the media during a chaotic weekend of protests against white supremacists.

On Monday’s edition of “Cuomo Prime Time,” the CNN host referred to “counterprotesters” and said the “vast majority of them were peaceful” with the exception of some members of Antifa who “covered their faces, confronted police and berated journalists.” Cuomo condemned their actions as “wrong,” but argued that “all punches are not equal” in a monologue that has angered critics of the CNN host.

“If you’re a punk who comes and starts trouble in a mask and hurt people, you’re not about any virtuous cause. You’re just somebody who’s going to be held to the standard of doing something wrong," Cuomo said. “But when someone comes to call out bigots and it gets hot, even physical, are they equally wrong as the bigot they are fighting? I argue no.”

Several media watchdogs said Cuomo's comments amounted to a defense of violent Antifa protesters.

Media Research Center analyst Kristine Marsh wrote that Cuomo “started off by placidly arguing that violence is violence and attacks on the media were simply ‘wrong,’” but eventually “he tried to justify the violence coming from the left because, according to him, these rioters had the moral upperhand.”

Mediaite covered the rant with a headline, “Chris Cuomo Defends Antifa By Saying Their Attacks on Police, Journalists Are ‘Not Equal’ To Bigots,” while TheWrap wrote that “Cuomo delivered a passionate monologue on Monday evening, defending Antifa.”

The Hill media reporter Joe Concha also wrote that Cuomo defended Antifa and reminded readers that the CNN host once compared “allied troops who stormed the beaches of Normandy on D-Day” to modern-day Antifa members with a message on Twitter.

Daily Wire reporter Ryan Saavedra wrote, "Cuomo suggested on Monday night that violence carried out by Antifa is not as bad as violence committed by racists because Antifa's cause is moral and just."

TheBlaze founder Glenn Beck tweeted Saavedra’s story and added, “Hey, has anyone figured out yet why people don’t trust CNN yet?”

Cuomo was also criticized on Twitter, where he responded forcefully.

“Amazing how partisanship is driving the right to embrace even hate groups. Of course, Antifa or anyone attacking cops and media in name of any cause are wrong and criminal,” he wrote. “But to expand the argument to all who oppose bigotry are the same as the hateful bigots? Come on!”

Pundit Joel Pollak accused Cuomo of siding with Antifa and excusing violence on the left, but the CNN host fired back.

“This is bs. Why spread lies? And luckily the video is there for all to see. When Antifa people hit cops they lose legal and moral high ground. I am talking about people like you who say bigots and those opposing them are equal,” Cuomo responded to Pollak.

Cuomo’s monologue came on the heels of the anniversary of the deadly Charlottesville riot that saw protests in Washington, D.C., and Charlottesville, Va. Members of Antifa – a so-called anti-fascist group -- were seen launching eggs, fireworks and water bottles at police officers and the Secret Service, beating people in the street and threatening members of the media

“This time, the racists were dramatically outnumbered by 200 violent and masked Antifa anarchists,” Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce wrote on Monday.

The D.C. Antifa group marched around the downtown area as camera phones caught members throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at cops and journalists. The events were also relayed by some media members on the ground.

A video posted on Twitter showed Antifa members violently attacking a police officer on a motorcycle as he drove through the crowd.

A day earlier, in Charlottesville – the site of the violent and deadly clashes sparked by a massive far-right white nationalist rally – counterprotesters clashed with journalists, with an NBC News reporter saying one person even tried to grab a crew member’s camera as he was being told to stop filming.

In his Monday monolgoue, Cuomo explained that there isn’t a “moral equivalency” between white supremacists and Antifa because “people who show up to fight against bigots are not to be judged the same as the bigots, even if they do resort to the same kind of petty violence.”

“Fighting against hate matters,” he said.

Cuomo went on to say that “drawing a moral equivalency between those espousing hate and those fighting it, because they both resort to violence, emboldens hate” and “elevates what should be stamped out.” Cuomo repeatedly couched his comments by saying that all physical violence is wrong, but pushed his theory that anyone who opposes hate is on the side of what is right.

“Think about it, civil rights activists, were they the same morally as the bigots, as the racists with whom they exchanged blows? Are people who go to war, against an evil regime, on the same moral ground as those they seek to stop from oppressing the weak?” Cuomo said.



http://www.foxnews.com/enterta...fa-in-monologue.html
 
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