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Almost 1,000 U.S. troops have been deployed near three areas along the U.S.-Mexican border where U.S. officials have assessed migrants and asylum seekers from Central America are most likely to try to enter the country in coming weeks.

Troops are in place around McAllen and Brownsville, in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley; San Ysidro, Calif., south of San Diego; and Nogales, Ariz., U.S. officials said.

Members of migrant caravans, which are more than 800 miles from the nearest crossing and traveling by foot, are likely to choose one of those areas to try to enter the U.S. because they are the safer and easier options, given their current course, the officials said.

The troops are the first to arrive of more than 7,000 active-duty personnel the Department of Defense said would provide support for U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers along the borders.

For immigrants asking for refuge at ports of entry, the busiest single port, by far, is San Ysidro, south of San Diego, which received 15,700 migrants traveling with their families. It was an increase of more than 124% over last year.

San Ysidro would require the longest route for the nearest approaching caravan, but that destination is peppered with support facilities such as legal aid and is considered safer for travel.

There are no troops around border crossings in and around El Paso, Texas, even though that region is the second busiest for migrating families.

A U.S. official said that while El Paso is closer than ports in Arizona and southern California, the route, spanning mountainous terrain, would be the most difficult for the nearest caravan to travel.

The troops being deployed to the border are expected to be in place before the arrival of a caravan of about 4,000 would-be asylum seekers and migrants from Central America. The military mission, dubbed Operation Faithful Patriot, is the largest single deployment of troops during Defense Secretary Jim Mattis’s nearly two-year tenure.
 
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Posted in another thread, Beto O'Rourke seems to be spending campaign money on the caravan.




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A U.S. official said that while El Paso is closer than ports in Arizona and southern California, the route, spanning mountainous terrain, would be the most difficult for the nearest caravan to travel.

It is, in fact, the best (only?) pass through the mountains there, and the path north from there has been known as "El Jornada de Muerte" for hundreds of years now. Having said that, there's already a whole bunch of soldiers at Ft. Bliss (basically the north edge of El Paso).
 
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Trump was just taking questions on the caravan from the no good media. Wow, that was something; he really gave them hell. I mean pointedly, he slammed them right to their faces. Bravo, Mr. President.


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THE TRUE HISTORY OF MILLSTONE BABIES
October 31, 2018

Having mastered fake news, now the media are trying out a little fake history.

In the news business, new topics are always popping up, from the Logan Act and the emoluments clause to North Korea. The all-star panels rush to Wikipedia, so they can pretend to be experts on things they knew nothing about an hour earlier.

Such is the case today with "anchor babies" and "birthright citizenship." People who know zilch about the history of the 14th Amendment are pontificating magnificently and completely falsely on the issue du jour.

If you'd like to be the smartest person at your next cocktail party by knowing the truth about the 14th Amendment, this is the column for you!

Of course the president can end the citizenship of "anchor babies" by executive order -- for the simple reason that no Supreme Court or U.S. Congress has ever conferred such a right.

It's just something everyone believes to be true.

How could anyone -- even a not-very-bright person -- imagine that granting citizenship to the children of illegal aliens is actually in our Constitution?

The first question would be: Why would they do that? It's like being accused of robbing a homeless person. WHY WOULD I?

The Supreme Court has stated -- repeatedly! -- that the "main object" of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment "was to settle the question ... as to the citizenship of free negroes," making them "citizens of the United States and of the state in which they reside."

Democrats, the entire media and House Speaker Paul Ryan seem to have forgotten the Civil War. They believe that, immediately after a war that ended slavery, Americans rose up as one and demanded that the children of illegals be granted citizenship!

You know what's really bothering me? If someone comes into the country illegally and has a kid, that kid should be an American citizen!



YOU MEAN THAT'S NOT ALREADY IN THE CONSTITUTION?

Give me a scenario -- just one scenario -- where the post-Civil War amendments would be intended to grant citizenship to the kids of Chinese ladies flying to birthing hospitals in California, or pregnant Latin Americans sneaking across the border in the back of flatbed trucks.

You can make it up. It doesn't have to be a true scenario. Any scenario!

As the court has explained again and again and again:

"(N)o one can fail to be impressed with the one pervading purpose found in (the 13th, 14th and 15th) amendments, lying at the foundation of each, and without which none of them would have been even suggested; we mean the freedom of the slave race, the security and firm establishment of that freedom, and the protection of the newly made freeman and citizen from the oppressions of those who had formerly exercised unlimited dominion over him."

That's why the amendment refers to people who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States "and of the state wherein they reside." For generations, African-Americans were domiciled in this country. The only reason they weren't citizens was because of slavery, which the country had just fought a civil war to end.

The 14th Amendment fixed that.

The amendment didn't even make Indians citizens. Why? Because it was about freed slaves. Sixteen years after the 14th Amendment was ratified, the Supreme Court held that an American Indian, John Elk, was not a citizen, despite having been born here.

Instead, Congress had to pass a separate law making Indians citizens, which it did, more than half a century after the adoption of the 14th Amendment. (It's easy to miss -- the law is titled: "THE INDIAN CITIZENSHIP ACT OF 1924.") Why would such a law be necessary if simply being born in the U.S. was enough to confer citizenship?

Even today, the children of diplomats and foreign ministers are not granted citizenship on the basis of being born here.

President Trump, unlike his critics, honors black history by recognizing that the whole purpose of the Civil War amendments was to guarantee the rights of freed slaves.

But the left has always been bored with black people. If they start gassing on about "civil rights," you can be sure it will be about transgenders, the abortion ladies or illegal aliens. Liberals can never seem to remember the people whose ancestors were brought here as slaves, i.e., the only reason we even have civil rights laws.

Still, it requires breathtaking audacity to use the Civil War amendments to bring in cheap foreign labor, which drives down the wages of African-Americans -- the very people the amendments were written to protect!

Whether the children born to legal immigrants are citizens is controversial enough. But at least there's a Supreme Court decision claiming that they are -- U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark. That's "birthright citizenship."

It's something else entirely to claim that an illegal alien, subject to deportation, can drop a baby and suddenly claim to be the parent of a "citizen."

This crackpot notion was concocted by liberal zealot Justice William Brennan and slipped into a footnote as dicta in a 1982 case. "Dicta" means it was not the ruling of the court, just a random aside, with zero legal significance.

Left-wing activists seized on Brennan's aside and browbeat everyone into believing that anchor babies are part of our great constitutional heritage, emerging straight from the pen of James Madison.

No Supreme Court has ever held that children born to illegal aliens are citizens. No Congress has deliberated and decided to grant that right. It's a made-up right, grounded only in the smoke and mirrors around Justice Brennan's 1982 footnote.

Obviously, it would be better if Congress passed a law clearly stating that children born to illegals are not citizens. (Trump won't be president forever!) But until that happens, the president of the United States is not required to continue a ridiculous practice that has absolutely no basis in law.

It's often said that journalism is the first draft of history. As we now see, fake news is the first draft of fake history.

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Our daughter was born in Germany, while I/we were stationed there. Under prevailing rules at the time, she could choose her citizenship. American or German. She chose USA citizenship. At the time she could not have both. The stupid law that made multiple citizenships legal was just that, STUPID!

Personally, I see no justification for multiple citizenships! Make you choice and LIVE WITH IT!

I recall reading and seeing pictures of people going through customs with a freaking stack of passports! What a crock!


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Caravan is at Sayula De Aleman





A little stop in Veracruz for some fun and sun with party money from Beto. Eek
 
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Who/What is this Nexus Services who is advocating for migrants trying to get in the country. Evidently in DC.


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Link to original video: https://youtu.be/nASaF1o0rmM




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^^^ Heh, heh, heh - for some reason I get a kick out of that - "KGB TV".

Well, I guess I've found an answer to my question as to why they didn't (initially) head north to pick up the main highway headed towards the U.S.

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The Latest: Caravan Splinters As It Heads Through Mexico
Associated Press, 11/4/2018

4:25 PM

Members of the 4,000-strong caravan of Central American migrants winding their way toward the U.S. border lambasted Mexican officials for directing them northward through the Gulf Coast state of Veracruz, calling it "the route of death."

The group said in a statement that some migrants branched off on their own Saturday in the belief that they were near the metropolises of Puebla and Mexico City, where they aimed to rest and receive medical attention after three weeks on the road.

A trek via the sugar fields and fruit groves of Veracruz takes the travelers through a state where hundreds of migrants have disappeared in recent years, falling prey to kidnappers looking for ransom payments.

Authorities in Veracruz said in September they had discovered remains from at least 174 people buried in clandestine graves. Some security experts have questioned whether those bodies belonged to migrants.

Veracruz Gov. Miguel Angel Yunes reneged on a Friday offer to provide buses to leapfrog the migrants to the Mexican capital or some other destination.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/late...ashed-154426637.html
 
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So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?


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I would think we'll continue to hear so long as they get closer and /or increase numbers. We just won't hear it at every campaign rally.


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Well, we're down to 4,000 from 7,000 and they haven't gotten more than 315 miles into Mexico yet. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
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That picture of them crossing the river reminded me of other animal river crossings. Maybe we need a deterrent Razz

 
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So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?
Oh, I think it'll linger. I can see there being massive encampments just across the border, and continual coverage of the "refugee crisis". And one can't let a serious crisis got to waste, can one?
 
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So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?


Last week, Rush mentioned that if and when the Republicans win, the caravan will stop. He might be right, we'll see.



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"...in the belief that they were near metropolises..."

Are you fucking kidding me? I mean, none of them--4 goddamn thousand of them--have a fucking map or sense enough to stop anyjuan on the road and say donde estamos?? Mexico has no signs? None of the undoubtedly dozens of reporters swarming their caravan day and night has a GPS?

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So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?


Last week, Rush mentioned that if and when the Republicans win, the caravan will stop. He might be right, we'll see.


Well yeah, because the money will dry up.


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