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United Nations: Trump Must Allow Caravan Migrants Into America


If the UN is so concerned about these invaders, let the UN transport them to those member nations who are supporting this INVASION.

And deport Soros, and everybody associated with him back to Hungary where he can be charged for his Gestapo activities.


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El nolo busso, por favor

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Paving the roads with broken glass and caltrops would slow things down a bit.




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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...u0r6PNXenmGPfpZPL2w8

Armed Citizens Join the Front Lines to Help Prevent Caravan Riders From Entering the U.S.
Beth Baumann Beth Baumann | @eb454 |Posted: Oct 31, 2018 10:20 PM Share Tweet

Armed Citizens Join the Front Lines to Help Prevent Caravan Riders From Entering the U.S.

The United States Border Patrol alerted Texas landowners about the possibility of armed citizens being on their property. These men and women have decided to join the Border Patrol and the National Guard on the front lines of the United States-Mexico border to prevent illegal aliens from entering the U.S.

Armed citizens decided to provide support to federal law enforcement officials after they received word that the Central American caravan carrying illegal aliens would be arriving at the United States-Mexico border in the coming days.

According to the Associated Press, activists are coordinating with other citizens about taking a place along the border. One even told them t was “imperative that we have boots on the ground," Fox News reported.

It is coming practice for Militia and members of the Minutemen to keep watch on the border. When they see someone illegally crossing, they call Border Patrol to come and apprehend the person or persons.

Those who can't make it to the border have donated money for supplies and equipment. Those who do plan to patrol the border usually bring firearms and tactical gear, Fox News reported.


Oregon resident Monica Marin raised about $4,000 to help the militias purchase supplies. She believes the minutemen are helping out federal authorities.

“When I look at TV footage of this 'caravan', I see young, fighting-age men who do not look like they’re starving. They look like they’re ready to fight,” Marin told The Yucatan Times. “We’re trained. We’re not hotheads. We’re not out here to shoot people.”

Some people in small border towns aren't thrilled about the militias though. Clara Godfrey, who lives in Arivaca, Arizona, put signs up saying militias are not allowed on her property.

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"I want everybody to be aware that we do not want the militias," Godfrey told KPHO-TV.

South Texas resident Marianna Trevino Wright echoed Godfrey's concerns.

“We go about our business here every day in a peaceful manner,” Wright told The Yucatan Times. “The idea that we could be invaded not by illegal immigrants but by militia groups … is regrettable, and it will end badly.”

President Donald Trump deployed 5,000 troops to the border to keep caravan riders from entering the United States.

The caravan is still about 1,000 miles south of the United States-Mexico border. The group is expected to arrive in about a week.




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So Ms. Marianna Trevino Wright, Executive Director of the National Butterfly Center in Mission TX, would rather be overrun by a hoard of illegal alien invader's than be protected by and orderly and steadfast group of Patriotic Americans?!

As someone who is probably familiar in the field of entomology, she ought to understand the dire consequences of an undesired invasive species.
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/...ide-buses-has-failed

The leading migrant caravan trying to make its way to the United States border is admitting defeat after asking the Mexican government to provide dozens of buses to speed up the group's journey northward.

The setback comes days after caravan leaders asked for “safe and dignified” transport to Mexico City, a checkpoint along the way for a group that has been dwindling in size as members either apply for protected status in Mexico or drop out over fatigue exacerbated by the sweltering weather conditions they have been facing.

"The attempt to travel by bus failed," caravan coordinator Walter Cuello told the Associated Press Wednesday night.

A Fox News crew traveling with the caravan reports that it originally planned to go to Santa Maria Jalapa del Marques, a city about 35 miles west of Juchitan. But shortly after departing, the caravan's leaders changed the route to go north to the town of Matias Romero, in the direction of the coastal city of Veracruz, which lies on the Gulf of Mexico.

The switch suggests that once the caravan gets to Veracruz, it may split in half, with some of the caravan probably heading to a border crossing about 600 miles away in McAllen, Texas. The other half may travel more than double that length to Tijuana, just across the border from San Diego.

Three more caravans are now behind them.
 
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^^^^^ Just why would the Mexican government feel obligated to provide motorized transport to that group of illegal (even in Mexico) aliens? The "caravan" should be told to pound sand.

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To get rid of them by passing the problem along to us. That would be consistent with what we've had to expect in the past.
 
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President Trump's statement on immigration.




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This would qualify as quadruple fuck you. Mad

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...onstitutional-rights

Migrants traveling to US sue Trump, government; claim violation of constitutional rights

By Edmund DeMarche, Amy Lieu | Fox News


A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

The Fifth Amendment states that, "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."


A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding."

Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit, which was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.

The Central American migrant caravan now numbers approximately 4,000 people, down from a high of 7,200.

The lawsuit points to Trump's claim that he will prevent the caravan from entering the U.S. It claims that the president cannot stop asylum-seekers by employing the military -- when they have a fair claim. The suit criticized the president's alleged attempt at stoking "fear and hysteria" by claiming that criminals and gang members have joined the caravan.

The suit cited a Trump interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, where the president laid out plans to build tent cities to house migrants. The suit questioned the functionality of such a project, and asked if these living quarters would qualify under the Flores Agreement of 1997. The agreement protects asylum-seekers’ rights and limits how long minors can be held.

Earlier this summer, a federal judge in California rejected a request by the administration to modify Flores to allow for longer family detention. Administration officials say they have the authority to terminate the agreement, but that is likely to be tested in court.

he White House, Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security -- which were all named as defendants -- did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

Trump announced in a lengthy speech at the White House on Thursday afternoon that in response to what he called the "crisis at our southern border" and a surge of fraudulent asylum claims in recent years, his administration will soon require asylum-seekers to "lawfully present themselves" at a port of entry.

Asylum claims made by migrants caught crossing the border illegally would seemingly be summarily denied under Trump's proposal.

The asylum clause of the Immigration and Nationality Act says that anyone who arrives to the U.S. may apply for asylum based on a well-founded fear of persecution, and Trump's decision was expected to prompt immediate federal court challenges.

Nexus Services Inc. is funding the lawsuits through a civil rights law firm called Nexus Derechos Humanos (Human Rights) Attorneys Inc.

"Federal law enables migrants to apply for asylum in the United States. President Trump and his administration have used ‘increased enforcement,’ like separating families and lengthening detention to violate migrant rights," Mike Donovan, president of Nexus Services, said in the release.

There is another legal issue at stake, according to the lawsuit. The U.S. cannot send troops into Mexico to cut off the caravan from crossing the border, it said. Even with the National Guard at the border, once an immigrant indicates an intention to apply for asylum, the suit maintained the process has begun.

Immigrants who are seeking asylum must be referred for a “credible fear interview,” for which an asylum officer would determine if the immigrant has a “credible fear of persecution,” the lawsuit said. If the officer makes that determination, then there is a significant chance for the asylum-seeker to be granted asylum, according to the suit.

Fox News' Gregg Re and The Associated Press contributed to this report


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^^^ This whole "invasion caravan" and unchecked immigration in general, is part of a larger issue:

Globalism. It's the belief that borders don't matter. And if borders don't matter, nation-states don't matter. We should allow open immigration because we are all human and should go wherever we want. The nation-state is an idea of the past. One-world government, socialism for all. This is the vision of the leftists. They truly want to destroy our nation, because they think it will lead to something better. The only reason socialism doesn't work is because it hasn't been imposed globally.



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It is my understanding that when claiming asylum from adverse or dangerous conditions, the tenets to right to asylum are met when they crossed the border into Mexico. Is this worthless trash really expecting that the offer of welfare, medical care, place to live, and education do not qualify as a genuine alleviation of the danger they faced in home countries?

As stated above, this is about forced globalism against the will and wishes of a sovereign nation.

If someone were to put a bullet in Soros' fat, meddling head tomorrow, I'd lose not a second of sleep over it.




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Amazing that poor, impoverished migrants are somehow able to file a lawsuit in a DC court all the way down in southern Mexico. They sure seem to be very well versed in our judicial system and laws concerning the Constitution.

I guess they're just really good with paperwork. Roll Eyes


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A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

The Fifth Amendment states that, "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."


isn't this the same as giving official notice of "intending to commit a crime"???

Just where the legal boundaries may lay makes an essential qualification of 'sovereign borders' does it not?

Can someone explain how some non-resident non-citizen, can seriously claim a right that doesn't exist until they actually commit the crime of illegal entry? Or does this question miss the legal issue?


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Look at the second half of the amendment, not the first. I have no idea how good their legal argument is, though.
 
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Almost 1,000 U.S. troops have been deployed near three areas along the U.S.-Mexican border where U.S. officials have assessed migrants and asylum seekers from Central America are most likely to try to enter the country in coming weeks.

Troops are in place around McAllen and Brownsville, in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley; San Ysidro, Calif., south of San Diego; and Nogales, Ariz., U.S. officials said.

Members of migrant caravans, which are more than 800 miles from the nearest crossing and traveling by foot, are likely to choose one of those areas to try to enter the U.S. because they are the safer and easier options, given their current course, the officials said.

The troops are the first to arrive of more than 7,000 active-duty personnel the Department of Defense said would provide support for U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers along the borders.

For immigrants asking for refuge at ports of entry, the busiest single port, by far, is San Ysidro, south of San Diego, which received 15,700 migrants traveling with their families. It was an increase of more than 124% over last year.

San Ysidro would require the longest route for the nearest approaching caravan, but that destination is peppered with support facilities such as legal aid and is considered safer for travel.

There are no troops around border crossings in and around El Paso, Texas, even though that region is the second busiest for migrating families.

A U.S. official said that while El Paso is closer than ports in Arizona and southern California, the route, spanning mountainous terrain, would be the most difficult for the nearest caravan to travel.

The troops being deployed to the border are expected to be in place before the arrival of a caravan of about 4,000 would-be asylum seekers and migrants from Central America. The military mission, dubbed Operation Faithful Patriot, is the largest single deployment of troops during Defense Secretary Jim Mattis’s nearly two-year tenure.
 
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Posted in another thread, Beto O'Rourke seems to be spending campaign money on the caravan.




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