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With only weeks remaining before the midterm elections and the Democrats having just lost the Kavanaugh confirmation battle, the media are now attempting to whip the American people into a frenzy over illegal immigrants and migrants yet again.

The reports being published by the media are so typical that they inspired outspoken Hollywood actor James Woods to describe them as “another dog and pony show just in time for the #midterms”:

The current reports concern an ongoing so-called “March of the Migrant” in Honduras involving an estimated 1,300 men, women and children marching from the Honduran city of San Pedro Sula to Mexico to demand a visa into the U.S. so that they may escape their home country’s problems.

“There is no work and so much violence that you can get killed walking down the street,” Javier Solis, a Honduran man, complained to Reuters, adding that he wants to enter the United States.

This report comes only days after Vice President Mike Pence met with leaders of three Central American countries and stipulated that further economic assistance from the U.S. hinges on whether or not they’re willing to do more to curb illegal immigration and mass migrations.

“If you do more, I’m here to say on behalf of the president of the United States and the American people, we’ll do more,” he said to Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales and Salvadorean Vice President Oscar Ortiz of El Salvador.

Mass migrations became an issue last spring when another caravan of migrants from Central America marched to the U.S. border to seek asylum.

Left-wing Univision anchor Jorge Ramos argued at the time that, as the “richest and most powerful country in the world,” the U.S. had an obligation to show the migrants “compassion.”

It was around this same time that the child separation scam occurred and media began pummeling the Trump administration for separating illegal immigrant children from their illegal immigrant parents.

Instead of seeking asylum at America’s ports of entries, several migrant families tried to illegally cross the border. Because the U.S. is not an open borders country, immigration authorities had no other choice but to apprehend the families and detain them. And since detaining children in adult facilities would’ve been cruel, they rightly detained the kids separately from their parents.

The media used this justified separation to paint the president and his top officials as cruel, monstrous figures. According to Woods, it wouldn’t be shocking if the media were to use the current “dog and pony show” to again smear the Trump administration.

In fact, the left is already apoplectic as it is over a new report that White House senior adviser Stephen Miler is trying to resolve the ongoing migrant crisis via a new detention plan.

“In an effort to dissuade migrant families from attempting to cross the border illegally, the White House is considering several different detention options,” This Week reported. “One possibility is that families seeking asylum will be detained together for up to 20 days, then will have to decide whether they want to stay in family detention or send the children to a government shelter.”

While this may sound sensible to some, it’s already triggered rage from the perpetually aggrieved left:


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lThere is no work and so much violence that you can get killed walking down the street,” Javier Solis, a Honduran man, complained to Reuters, adding that he wants to enter the United States.


Javier, why not take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them?

Or we could require that you live and work in south Chicago which is a dangerous place.





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How. . . . convenient for the dems.

Almost as if this were planned. El Sorpresa de Octubre.



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I'm wondering if the new trade agreement with Mexico has provisions for this?

Perhaps it's worth noting that the new agreement, USMCA looks an awful lot like USMC.

We can hope.




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Honduran government begs migrant caravan to turn back

Call comes after Trump threatens to stop U.S. aid

https://www.washingtontimes.co...t-caravan-turn-back/

The Honduran government called on 2,000 immigrants Tuesday to give up their trek north and return home, just hours after President Trump threatened to withhold $65 million in U.S. money if the country’s leaders don’t find a way to head off the caravan.

Honduras’s foreign ministry, in a statement reported by local news, said the caravan was being politically manipulated in order to make the country look bad, just days after leaders were in Washington promising better cooperation with the Trump administration.

But no matter what happens with this caravan, security experts say the U.S. is already being flooded with other caravans with hundreds of people on a near-daily basis, and that shows no signs of stopping.

They said it’s quickly becoming a repeat of the worst days of illegal immigration from two decades ago, when Border Patrol agents regularly nabbed border-jumping groups of hundreds of people.

“We’re seeing the explosion again,” said Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council.

The Honduran caravan began in notoriously violent San Pedro Sula late last week with about 1,000 people, and has now reached 2,000 people as word of mouth spread, according to local news reports. The caravan busted through the border into Guatemala this week, defying that country’s border guards, who’d initially tried to stop the flow.

Video showed the migrants marching along Guatemalan streets, headed for Chiquimula, where they were expected to remain Tuesday night.

Mr. Trump via Twitter on Tuesday that Honduras had to find a way to bring the people back, or else “no more money or aid will be given to Honduras, effective immediately!”

Vice President Mike Pence delivered that message personally in a phone call to Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, and also warned Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales to do what he can to dissuade the caravan.

The $65 million the administration had proposed for Honduras in 2019 amounts to about 1.5 percent of the country’s total government revenue.

Hours later the Honduran ministry issued a nine-point statement pleading for the caravan to “desist,” and warning would-be immigrants they’re being duped by the organizers to make a “political” statement.

Mexico is also vowing a stiff response should the caravan continue on, attempting to traverse its territory en route to the U.S. A Mexican federal police commissioner headed to the border along with hundreds of personnel to be prepared to confront the group.

The mass movements mark a return to the days of more than a decade ago, when Border Patrol agents would regularly encounter large groups of Mexican men jumping the border.

The demographics have changed — now, it’s mothers, fathers and children from Central America who make up most of the caravans — but the challenge to agents remains as difficult, drawing them away from line watch duties to process the families, leaving other areas of the border vulnerable to intrusion.

Caravans sprang to public attention earlier this year when one set out from Central America for the U.S. in the spring, arriving in northern Mexico just before Easter. Under intense pressure from the U.S., Mexican authorities worked to cut the size of the caravan, pushing some migrants back across their own southern border and offering asylum in Mexico to others.

Still, hundreds of the migrants did reach the U.S. border, exposing the holes in American border security.

Soon after, the Trump administration rolled out its zero tolerance policy, which involved prosecuting and jailing illegal immigrants for at least a day or two. But with no space to hold families in the criminal justice system, it meant the children were removed from parents’ custody in more than 2,000 cases — resulting in the family separation crisis that dealt a black eye to Homeland Security and Justice Department officials.

The administration is reportedly pondering another attempt at a crackdown.

For now, though, officials say the best solution to stopping caravans is for Congress to change the laws and reduce incentives for adults to bring children on the dangerous journey.

“Smugglers and traffickers know our loopholes well,” said Katie Waldman, spokeswoman for Homeland Security.

The loopholes she spoke of are perverse incentives under the law — including a 2015 court ruling — that push the government to give more lax treatment to adults who show up with children. Under that court decision, in a case known as the Flores Settlement, the government is supposed to release children caught with their parents at the border within 20 days.

Since it’s impossible to judge children’s cases in that short time, and since judges say children should be kept with their parents, that means the entire family is usually released from custody, and quickly disappears into the shadows.

Of the more than 75,000 people who came as families in 2017, only slightly more than 1 percent have been deported, Homeland Security says.

The trend toward showing up as caravans is another sign that the migrants don’t feel any consequences, officials say — at least not from U.S. law.

Smugglers and the elements are another story.

Agents in Arizona got an emergency call from Mexican authorities in June, who reported they’d received an emergency call about a large group struggling in the desert. Agents would find 57 Central Americans, including a one-year-old girl, in the 108-degree heat.

In August, agents in Arizona found a caravan of 128 people, with children as young as four, who’d been abandoned by their smuggler.

A month later, agents came across 275 people traveling in groups in southern Arizona. Twenty of them had to be taken to the hospital suffering everything from ankle injuries from being dropped over the border wall to lice infestation or impetigo, a highly contagious skin infection that mainly strikes infants and children.

The same day in Texas, agents found a group of 170 people, all parents and children, who demanded to be arrested. It turned out smugglers were using that group as a distraction while they tried to send other illegal immigrants across the border elsewhere.

Mr. Judd, a border patrol agent himself, said that happens regularly, and it can take 10 to 15 agents to process a group of 100 people — taking them off the line.

“What they do is they artificially create holes that they can then smuggle their higher profit behind us,” he said. That higher-value cargo is usually drugs or adult illegal immigrants paying higher fees.

Not that the families don’t pay either, though. They still pay the “mafia fee” of perhaps $1,000 to $2,000 to cross the border itself, then turn themselves in knowing the government will quickly release them into the country.

“It’s a brilliant strategy on the cartels’ part,” Mr. Judd said.


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Rep Gaetz sounded the alarm after posting a video of men handing out cash to women and children to join the caravan. They won't make it. Mexico sent 500 cops to their border to confront the caravan. Pompeo is going to Mexico Friday to discuss (read demand ) Mexico not let them pass to our border. Soros just spent a bunch of money on wasted time.

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Rep Gaetz sounded the alarm after posting a video of men handing out cash to women and children to join the caravan. They won't make it. Mexico sent 500 cops to their border to confront the caravan. Pompeo is going to Mexico Friday to discuss (read demand ) Mexico not let them pass to our border. Soros just spent a bunch of money on wasted time.

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The heck with Honduras, Mexico is the key. The current administration should make it abundantly clear that if Mexican authorities don't turn back the caravan, we'll have to re-think that NAFTA replacement treaty. Oh, and all aid to Mexico should also be on the table. Time to twist the screws tight.


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If it was up to me, I would suspend all payments and aid to these banana republics until they cease and decease all illegal immigration to the US. Enough is enough of these damn parasites sucking down our precious resources. Not that I don't feel for them, but the aid we pay is suppose to take care of them in their countries. We need to make America first and foremost before illegals and refugees.......
 
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If it was up to me, I would suspend all payments and aid to these banana republics until they cease and decease all illegal immigration to the US. ..


take the money we were gonna send to them and start a wall RIGHT NOW!!!



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Correct, it is literally an INVASION.
We ought to have some of us Responsible Americans go down and help turn them back.


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Try the less lethal route first. For example, crop dusters loaded with the liquid for pepper spray



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A lot of overweight people for refugees...


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YOU are NOT being fiscally conservative, you know darn well the smaller caliber fired from a helo that is MUCH cheaper per air-hour would get the job done, and in a more personal way, as well...
Hmmph! Tax and shoot, tax and shoot...

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Rep Gaetz:

Footage in Honduras giving cash 2 women & children 2 join the caravan & storm the US border @ election time. Soros? US-backed NGOs? Time to investigate the source!

https://twitter.com/RepMattGae.../1052629557826736129

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The U.S. military will "CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER" with Mexico if officials there don't soon stop the northward push of a massive migrant caravan, President Trump warned Thursday, amid reports the procession had swelled in size to about 4,000 people.

Trump's latest threat against the caravan -- which originated in Honduras and is bound for the U.S. in a bid to escape pervasive poverty and violence – comes as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo heads to Central America to discuss the issue.

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S.,” Trump tweeted Thursday morning.

He added: “In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

The caravan, which as of Thursday morning was estimated to contain about 4,000 people, is persistently inching toward the Mexico-Guatemala border, where Mexican officials have sent 500 additional federal police officers ahead of the procession's arrival, NBC News reported, citing U.S. government documents.

Mexico has said anyone with travel documents and the correct visa will be allowed to pass, and some others in the group can apply for refugee status. But officials also cautioned those who try to cross in an “irregular manner” could be detained and deported, according to the Associated Press.

The AP added that none of the migrants its reporters spoke to were carrying passports, which all but assures a high-stakes showdown with Mexican border officials in the coming days.

One member of the caravan, Henry Tejeda, told the AP he left his wife and four children to join the group due to increasing violence in Honduras, where he said his mother was murdered four years ago and his brother was shot.

"I am carrying the documents to prove I'm not lying," Tejeda said. "I want to seek political asylum [in the U.S.] and help my family."

The well-traveled Pompeo – fresh off a high-profile Middle East jaunt during which he met with leaders from Saudi Arabia and Turkey regarding the disappearance of activist Jamal Khashoggi – is now scheduled to head to Panama City on Thursday and Mexico City on Friday.

He will meet with the presidents of both countries to “discuss our ongoing security cooperation efforts to disrupt the illicit movement of cash, weapons, drugs across our shared border as well as the issue of stemming illegal immigration and strengthening accountability for corruption and human rights abuses, and bringing members of transnational criminal organizations to justice,” a senior State Department official said.

The migrant caravan will be a “prominent” topic of discussion, too, the official said.

“Certainly it’s an issue that we have viewed as a shared challenge and we continue to work closely with countries in the region to address the underlying economic, security, and governance conditions that have driven illegal immigration to the United States,” the official added.

Since 2015, the U.S. government has sent more than $2.6 billion in foreign assistance to the Northern Triangle countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. Trump has repeatedly threatened to cut off that aid if the mass migration continues.

The caravan set off last Friday from San Pedro Sula, Honduras’ second-largest city and a place widely considered to be one of most dangerous in the world when judged by homicide rate. At its start, the group consisted of about 160 people, according to an AP estimate.


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We whould not let this wave in until they are thoroughly vetted by the US military.

If we do let them in, we should recognize Feinsteins and Pelosis contributions and provide the immigrants maps to their house!
 
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