SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    Weird police shooting
Page 1 ... 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ... 38
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
Weird police shooting Login/Join 
Member
Picture of lastmanstanding
posted Hide Post
The Mpls. chief of police who got fired/resigned or whatever it was just got $183K of tax payer money plus a years medical and dental as a severance parachute. Nice gig if you can get it.


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
 
Posts: 8499 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: June 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
wishing we
were congress
posted Hide Post
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/...d-invsetigation-bca/

The shooting death of Justine Damond is now in the hands of the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office.

On Tuesday, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension announced that it had completed its investigation into the shooting and had forwarded the case to the county attorney’s office for possible charges.

Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman will decide if charges are to be filed against Noor. His office made no comment on the case Tuesday.

Officer Mathew Harrity told investigators that Noor suddenly shot Damond moments after there was a loud sound outside the car.

WCCO-TV has learned that that loud sound was Damond banging on the police SUV to get the officers’ attention.

Harrity returned to police duty last week. Noor remains on paid administrative leave.
 
Posts: 19493 | Registered: July 21, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
So his defense, in a nutshell, is "I heard a loud noise that could have been a gunshot somewhere, therefore I shot the next person I saw, as a potentially deadly threat to my and/or my partner's safety"? Whisky Tango Foxtrot Over....
 
Posts: 1699 | Registered: November 07, 2015Reply With QuoteReport This Post
wishing we
were congress
posted Hide Post
Jacob Frey won election as mayor of Minneapolis

The incumbent Betsy Hodges was defeated.

Given the list of candidates, Frey seems like one of the better choices

2017 mayor candidate list looks scary

Democratic-Farmer-Labor:

Raymond Dehn, State Representative
Al Flowers, community activist
Jacob Frey, City Council Member
Tom Hoch, former President of the Hennepin Theatre Trust
Betsy Hodges, incumbent Mayor
Nekima Levy-Pounds, civil rights activist, former President of the Minneapolis NAACP
Jeffrey Sterling Olson
Aswar Rahman, filmmaker
Captain Jack Sparrow, perennial candidate

Republican Party of Minnesota:

Jonathan Honerbrink, community activist

Socialist Workers Party:

David Rosenfeld
 
Posts: 19493 | Registered: July 21, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Baroque Bloke
Picture of Pipe Smoker
posted Hide Post
"There are no new witnesses or new evidence; only two people know firsthand what happened, and only one of them has spoken to investigators.

And yet, months after he received the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension’s investigation into the July 15 shooting death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond by a Minneapolis police officer, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman has not made a decision on whether that officer, Mohamed Noor, will face criminal charges.

Freeman continues to insist that he will make a decision before the end of the year, and Minneapolis’ new chief of police said he’s bracing for backlash no matter what Freeman decides…"

http://m.startribune.com/polic...s-decided/463073423/



Serious about crackers
 
Posts: 8832 | Location: San Diego | Registered: July 26, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
I’m sure some degree of judgement goes into these decisions, but isn’t there some checklist of criteria that would make it pretty clear?
 
Posts: 8942 | Location: The Red part of Minnesota | Registered: October 06, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Never miss an opportunity
to be Batman!
Picture of jsbcody
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
"There are no new witnesses or new evidence; only two people know firsthand what happened, and only one of them has spoken to investigators.

And yet, months after he received the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension’s investigation into the July 15 shooting death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond by a Minneapolis police officer, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman has not made a decision on whether that officer, Mohamed Noor, will face criminal charges.

Freeman continues to insist that he will make a decision before the end of the year, and Minneapolis’ new chief of police said he’s bracing for backlash no matter what Freeman decides…"

http://m.startribune.com/polic...s-decided/463073423/


Translation: The DA is waiting for a major snowstorm probably coupled some devastating world news event.
 
Posts: 3908 | Location: St.Louis County MO | Registered: October 13, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
wishing we
were congress
posted Hide Post
what a strange statement by Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman

http://www.startribune.com/fre...-shooting/464211313/

Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said Wednesday that he does not yet have the evidence to file charges against a Minneapolis police officer in the shooting death of Justine Damond, blaming a lack of evidence and investigators in the case that “haven’t done their job.”

Freeman made the candid comments during a union event after being confronted by activists, who recorded the interaction. They asked Freeman why it has taken so long for him to announce a charging decision on whether officer Mohamed Noor was justified in shooting and killing Damond on July 15.

“Fair question. I’ve got to have the evidence, and I don’t have it yet,” Freeman responded. “Let me just say it’s not my fault. So if it isn’t my fault, who didn’t do their job? Investigators. They don’t work for me. They haven’t done their job.”

The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which investigated the shooting turned over the case to Freeman for charging consideration on Sept. 12.

Freeman has said repeatedly he would make a decision on whether to charge Noor by the end of the year. But during a news conference on Tuesday he softened that stance, saying it was now “the goal” to make a decision by the end of the year

Freeman:

“I have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the moment he shot the gun he feared for his life, and he used force because he thought he was gonna be killed. But he won’t answer my questions … I can’t talk to her because she’s gone, and the other cop just gave us shit. So guess what, I’ve gotta figure out angles of the shot, gun residues, reckless use of force experts …”

Freeman told the group that before he charges anyone he has to have “sufficient admissible evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.”
 
Posts: 19493 | Registered: July 21, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Do No Harm,
Do Know Harm
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:

Freeman:

“I have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the moment he shot the gun he feared for his life, and he used force because he thought he was gonna be killed. But he won’t answer my questions … I can’t talk to her because she’s gone, and the other cop just gave us shit. So guess what, I’ve gotta figure out angles of the shot, gun residues, reckless use of force experts …”

Freeman told the group that before he charges anyone he has to have “sufficient admissible evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.”


Uhhh...is this guy a defense attorney Confused




Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here.

Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard.
-JALLEN

"All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones
 
Posts: 11441 | Location: NC | Registered: August 16, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
10mm is The
Boom of Doom
Picture of Fenris
posted Hide Post
If you or I...




The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC

The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound.
 
Posts: 17459 | Location: Northern Virginia | Registered: November 08, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
That rug really tied
the room together.
Picture of bubbatime
posted Hide Post
Very unprofessional for that defense attorney, uh, I mean prosecutor, to make those remarks about the case. Clearly another incompetent boob in a job too big for his britches.


______________________________________________________
Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow
 
Posts: 6659 | Location: Floriduh | Registered: October 16, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Baroque Bloke
Picture of Pipe Smoker
posted Hide Post
Yes, sdy, that was a damned strange statement. They're juggling the hot potato. Everybody wants to pass it off to the next guy.



Serious about crackers
 
Posts: 8832 | Location: San Diego | Registered: July 26, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Corgis Rock
Picture of Icabod
posted Hide Post
The prosecutor has had the completed investigation for 90 days. It doesn't appear he's directed any more investigation or collected any more evidence. Want to bet he's planned a "insufficient evidence" conclusion.



“ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull.
 
Posts: 6060 | Location: Outside Seattle | Registered: November 29, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Never miss an opportunity
to be Batman!
Picture of jsbcody
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by chongosuerte:
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:

Freeman:

“I have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the moment he shot the gun he feared for his life, and he used force because he thought he was gonna be killed. But he won’t answer my questions … I can’t talk to her because she’s gone, and the other cop just gave us shit. So guess what, I’ve gotta figure out angles of the shot, gun residues, reckless use of force experts …”

Freeman told the group that before he charges anyone he has to have “sufficient admissible evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.”


Uhhh...is this guy a defense attorney Confused


In a word yes. He is the "defense attorney" for the mayor and the system who put this guy on the street in the first place. It was all about having a first Somali police officer, regardless if he was incompetent. Things will get really interesting when the attorney for the family files suit and gets all his training records (if they haven't been misplaced or destroyed in a fire Wink).
 
Posts: 3908 | Location: St.Louis County MO | Registered: October 13, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
That rug really tied
the room together.
Picture of bubbatime
posted Hide Post
Nah they are adding the proper notations as we speak to his training file. Somali killer is ex Delta, SWAT team captain, and 1st in his class at the FBI leadership academy.


______________________________________________________
Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow
 
Posts: 6659 | Location: Floriduh | Registered: October 16, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
wishing we
were congress
posted Hide Post
Prosecutor who criticized investigators in Justine Damond case apologizes

https://www.policeone.com/inve...ond-case-apologizes/

A Minnesota prosecutor who publicly criticized agents investigating the death of an Australian woman fatally shot by a police officer said Monday that he is sorry and was wrong to discuss the agency's work in a public setting.

Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman issued both written and videotaped statements Monday apologizing to the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which is investigating the July shooting of Justine Ruszczyk Damond. He said he didn't know he was being recorded when he spoke critically of investigators, but "nonetheless, my comments, under any circumstances, were ill advised and I am sorry."

While he apologized in his statement Monday for speaking publicly about the case, Freeman did not say whether he stood by the comment that investigators were not doing their jobs or whether it was inaccurate.
 
Posts: 19493 | Registered: July 21, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
wishing we
were congress
posted Hide Post
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...e-made-until-n833306

A decision on whether charges should be brought in the deadly shooting of an Australian woman at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer will not come before the end of the year, a county attorney announced Thursday.

“Our goal was to complete the review and make a decision on whether or not to bring charges by the end of the year,” Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said in a statement. “We are getting more information and evidence and additional investigation must be completed.”

“As I have mentioned before, the investigation and review of the case will not be rushed,” he added. “It is more important to get it right than to get it done quickly.”

Freeman also spoke with Damond's family by phone on Thursday, according to the statement, and explained why there would be no decision by Dec. 31.

A statement from Damon's family and from her fiancé, Don Damond, said they supported the decision.

"We support Mr. Freeman's decision to take additional time to ensure the investigation is rigorous and complete," the statement read. "We want justice and appreciate the support from all those who want the same. We ask for the public's patience to allow the investigation to continue."
 
Posts: 19493 | Registered: July 21, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
 
Posts: 8942 | Location: The Red part of Minnesota | Registered: October 06, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
3° that never cooled
Picture of rock185
posted Hide Post
Sending political "Hot Potato" cases to the Grand Jury is common. I have testified before Grand Juries. Thing is, only witnesses called by the prosecution, are going to be heard. The vast majority of the time the case is going to be "True Billed" and the suspect charged. With the political situation in Minneapolis though,and a prosecutor making statements similar to those a defense attorney might make, I don't know. The Prosecutor can arrange for witnesses to provide testimony that might cause the Grand Jury to "No True Bill" the case. He could then use this turn down by the Grand Jury for political cover when he tells the public he will not prosecute the case.

I'll share that in 30+ years full time as an officer, I sometimes had people suddenly, unexpectedly, approach out of the darkness. This sometimes startled me. I did not feel the need to shoot any of them.......


NRA Life
 
Posts: 1561 | Location: Under the Tonto Rim | Registered: August 18, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
I was after a burglar one night when someone reached out of a shadow and grabbed my arm. I spun and punched him in the face with what I happened to holding in my right hand.
An S&W Model 13.
It was a fellow cop who thought it would be funny to scare me.
At roll call the next night, he had the perfect imprint of the barrel and front sight of the Smith on his face just under his eye.
This little episode just thrilled the command staff, all the way up.
But I did not shoot him.


End of Earth: 2 Miles
Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles
 
Posts: 15987 | Location: Marquette MI | Registered: July 08, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
  Powered by Social Strata Page 1 ... 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ... 38 
 

SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    Weird police shooting

© SIGforum 2024