They dont have this issue in the south. Whatever the Guarda cant handle the IRA takes care of. They have a reputation for executing known drug dealers in certain areas. Talk about neighboorhood watch...

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Originally posted by SIGSense:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Cautionary tale for what's coming to a zip code near you.

The Supreme Court of the US has already advised on numerous cases that it is NOT the job of any police department to protect ANY citizen. Period.

While that had been posted to death for the last 10 years, that quote and particular court case means not even close to the point of this news story, or even close to the attempted outrage that people try to make it mean.

Release on licence
Most prisoners in prison on determinate, ie fixed, sentences will be released at the half-way point of their sentence and will spend the remaining months or years of their sentence ‘on licence’. Being released on licence allows the prisoner to reintegrate into the community, rebuild family ties and helps to prevent re-offending.

What does being ‘on licence’ mean?

Being released ‘on licence’ means that for the rest of their sentence the released prisoner must stick to certain conditions. Time spent ‘on licence’ in the community is supervised by probation.

Before release from prison the offender will be given the licence and have the conditions explained, copies of the licence will also be kept by the prison as well as being sent to the probation supervisor. Copies will also be sent to the local Police force in the area where the offender will live and to the National Identification Service at the Metropolitan Police.

The paper licence received by the prisoner will include the seven standard conditions set out below as well as any extra conditions that the offender manager judges necessary to enable progress and prevent future trouble. The prison should fully explain all of the licence conditions before release. If the licence conditions are broken the offender may be sent back to prison.

What are the standard licence conditions?

There are seven standard licence conditions for prisoners serving determinate sentences

(a) be of good behaviour and not behave in a way which undermines the purpose of the licence period
(b) not commit any offence
(c) keep in touch with the supervising officer in accordance with instructions given by the supervising officer
(d) receive visits from the supervising officer in accordance with instructions given by the supervising officer
(e) reside permanently at an address approved by the supervising officer and obtain the prior permission of the supervising officer for any stay of one or more nights at a different address
(f) not undertake work, or a particular type of work, unless it is approved by the supervising officer and notify the supervising officer in advance of any proposal to undertake work or a particular type of work
(g) not travel outside the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man except with the prior permission of your supervising officer or for the purposes of immigration deportation or removal.

(Source: Ministry of Justice – PSI 12/2015)

Extra conditions may also be imposed under one of the following categories:

(1) residence at a specified place
(2) restriction of residency
(3) making or maintaining contact with a person
(4) participation in, or co-operation with, a programme or set of activities
(5) possession, ownership, control or inspection of specified items or documents
(6) disclosure of information
(7) curfew arrangement
(8) freedom of movement
(9) supervision in the community by the supervising officer, or other responsible officer, or organisation

A new additional licence condition, to require certain sexual offenders in England and Wales to undergo polygraph examinations became available on 6 January 2014. There are also specific additional licence conditions which can be used for extremist offenders only, more information can be found in Annex B of the PSI 12/2015.

These extra conditions must be judged necessary for the individual and must be applied proportionately to the prisoner. Over time these will be reviewed and may be amended/ cancelled. The extra conditions use standard wording set out in PSI 12/2015 (annex A)



What happens if the offender breaks the terms of their licence?
If an offender breaks the terms and conditions of their licence they may be recalled to prison immediately, or, depending on the circumstances, receive a warning the first or second time they break the conditions of their licence. If the offender breaches their licence for a third time they will be recalled to prison.

How long will the licence apply?
How long the offender remains on licence depends on the length of the sentence, the age at conviction and the date of conviction. This will be stated in the licence.

tac

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Originally posted by rduckwor:
Detectives appealed for information about their movements after seizing a blue Peugeot from a car park in Mullaghbawn but did not give details of their offences for fear of arousing emotions in the local community.

I was wondering about this...Here's why:

PEDOPHILES ON THE RUN ARRESTED AFTER BEING COVERED IN CEMENT AND TIED TO A BENCH

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Release on licence

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So it's what they call parole. These guys were violating their parole.

Thanks for the clarification, tac.

-Rob

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by rduckwor:
Detectives appealed for information about their movements after seizing a blue Peugeot from a car park in Mullaghbawn but did not give details of their offences for fear of arousing emotions in the local community.

I was wondering about this...Here's why:

PEDOPHILES ON THE RUN ARRESTED AFTER BEING COVERED IN CEMENT AND TIED TO A BENCH

From the link above:

Lydiard, from County Down, left jail earlier this year following a seven-month sentence for ignoring a court order banning him from online dating sites. He has nine convictions for sexual assault, assaults causing harm and threats to kill.

White, from South Armagh, has been convicted of five sexual assault charges and 62 previous convictions in all, including sexual assault, assault causing bodily harm and threats to kill.

Sixty-two convictions?!!!!! And the police don't understand the vigilantism? Holy schnikes!

Wrong approach. Correct option for pedophiles is to cover them in concrete, then drop them in the river, not tie to a bench.

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
Correct option for pedophiles is to cover them in concrete, then drop them in the river, not tie to a bench.

Even cement needs time to fully cure. Too much water too soon causes it to flake away. A few hours on the bench will avoid that and make the cement permanent. That way the river drop will also be permanent, and the number of repeat offenders drops dramatically. In the situation above, the flaw seems to be the "public" part with the bench. Allowing them to cure down on the river bank would have avoided the messy stuff with the PoPo needing to investigate. So now the concrete forms will get another chance.

I've posted this before, a while back, but it's good to remind ourselves that common law can often have suitable punishments handed out by the common man.

A bunch of itinerant land-workers, not uncommon in the East of England where most of the land is agriculturally prolific, were camped out in a roadside layby not far out of town. In the evenings, their money was as good as anybody else's in the town's pubs, and they enjoyed themselves without being too much of a PITA, as some can be. However, one of their girls got involved in a bit of a mass rape kind of thing, and although two of the young men responsible eventually went to prison, the youngest, who was just sixteen, avoided that, and openly bragged about it.

Until one evening, walking home from the pub where he had been illegally getting off his face, he was given a lift.

The following morning, having failed to turn up at the local high school, he was found unconscious in the layby, with his pants down by his ankles.

His injuries were interesting to say the least. He had had his hands tied behind his back with bailing twine, and, from the state of his knees, he had been knelt down, probably in close proximity to a trailer hitch, and had had his johnson reduced to a thin smear by the heavy multiple application of what may have been a tent peg mallet.

Not more raping 15-y/o girls for him.

The travellers had, uh, travelled on....

tac

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Originally posted by KevinCW:

While that had been posted to death for the last 10 years, that quote and particular court case means not even close to the point of this news story, or even close to the attempted outrage that people try to make it mean.

The fact that it has been posted to "death" shows that forum members are cognizant of the methods police use to keep an aura of the all powerful/knowing, yet actually have no responsibility to enforce it.

The title of this thread is "Vigilantism in the U.K, If the police can't won't do their jobs..." I'd say that the fact that it is not the job of the police to protect anyone quite accurately gets close to the title and article regarding what citizens do when presented with crime. Let's have a recent look at Broward County FL and a certain Sheriff that stood outside and did NOTHING as children were murdered. Notice how that deputy still has a job and a pension? Was it his "job" to protect those kids? Yes or no?