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Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/...tters/#ixzz6fHscaZSa

Washington, DC – -(AmmoLand.com)- AmmoLand News and other news organizations have received the document (embedded below) as part of an FOIA request recently submitted to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) after the Agency’s recent Honey Badger pistol brace fiasco.

The ATF turned over the document that alleged the popular pistol brace company SB Tactical had “misinformed the public about its pistol braces’ legality“. The ATF claimed that, despite repeated ATF warnings, that specific SB Tactical Brace models are not, in fact, braces, but instead, stocks that turn pistols into illegal short-barreled rifles in violation of the NFA.

Multiple other approval letters issued by ATF for similar products tell a different story.
SB Tactical points to two classification letters on its braces, but according to the ATF, SB Tactical continues to market and sell dozens of other models not covered by final determination letters. The ATF says that the only two braces covered by the letters are the original SB15 and MPX PSB.

The ATF claims that SB Tactical markets its braces as “ATF Compliant” or “ATF Approved Technology,” but the SBT website does not make that statement about the ATF. AmmoLand News was not able to verify that the company used this language in marketing.

A Freedom of Information Act response selectively released by the ATF FOIA office shows that, on July 18, 2018, the ATF sent a letter to SB Tactical declaring that only two of their model braces had been approved for use as a pistol stabilizing brace. The specific models are the SB tactical SB15 and MPX SB. This single letter is just one small part of greater discussions between ATF and the Firearms industry but it highlights the selective, contradictory, and compartmentalized nature of the ATF approval process.

The ATF letter states that “certain products currently marketed and sold by SB Tactical have not been evaluated nor approved by” ATF, and that “SB Tactical ‘braces’ are being marketed as evaluated and approved by ATF … although, in most cases, no evaluations or classification have ever occurred.”




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Fuck the ATF.. They have been playing games for years. they need to make a definitive decision and grandfather everything made prior to this date or let them continue to make them.
 
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Fuck the ATF.. They have been playing games for years. they need to make a definitive decision and grandfather everything made prior to this date or let them continue to make them.


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The reality is SBR restrictions are stupid. Suppressor restrictions are more stupid.

The braces have basically been an SBR loophole from day one and everybody should have seen this coming from day one. Does it make a whit of sense? Hell no. Should we throw brace owners under the bus? Hell no. But the fact remains I have NEVER seen a brace used “as intended” so to speak.

All that said SBR/SBS and suppressor regulations are stupid period. An argument could be made that full auto can be dangerous/more so as untrained use can inadvertently spray rounds or run alway from a shooter (ala the kid with the mini uzi). So I could be convinced not of a ban but of a higher level of scrutiny. Nothing could convince me of SBR and suppressor higher scrutiny and I believe suppressor use should be as encouraged as gun safe use.


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