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this is far beyond anything I thought it would be. Awesome. Nunes may have written himself into history books
 
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This link seems to be working... worked for me:

https://www.axios.com/read-nun...95-628d2f67bcdf.html


Down now. Big Grin



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try this one:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rea...ecret-171824689.html



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Rush is going over it on the radio now.


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Wow, one of the FISA warrant applications cited a freakin' Yahoo News article that was based on info leaked to Yahoo by Steele...

YGTBSM Mad


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Washington, DC 20515

Dear Mr. Chairman:

On January 29, 2018, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (hereinafter ?the
Committee?) voted to disclose publicly a memorandum containing classi?ed information
provided to the Committee in connection with its oversight activities (the ?Memorandum,?
which is attached to this letter). As provided by clause 11(g) of Rule of the House of
Representatives, the Committee has forwarded this Memorandum to the President based on its
determination that the release of the Memorandum would serve the public interest.



The Constitution vests the President with the authority to protect national security secrets from it
disclosure. As the Supreme Court has recognized, it is the President?s responsibility to classify,
declassify, and control access to information bearing on our intelligence sources and methods
and national defense. See, Dep of Navy v. Egan, 484 US. 518, 527 (1988). In order to
facilitate appropriate congressional oversight, the Executive Branch may entrust classi?ed
information to the appropriate committees of Congress, as it has done in connection with the
Committee?s oversight activities here. The Executive Branch does so on the assumption that the
Committee will responsibly protect such classi?ed information, consistent with the laws of the
United States.

The Committee has now determined that the release of the Memorandum would be appropriate.
The Executive Branch, across Administrations of both parties, has worked to accommodate
congressional requests to declassify speci?c materials in the public interest.1 However, public
release of classi?ed information by unilateral action of the Legislative Branch is extremely rare
and raises signi?cant separation of powers concerns. Accordingly, the Committee?s request to
release the Memorandum is interpreted as a request for declassi?cation pursuant to the
President?s authority.

The President understands that the protection of our national security represents his highest
obligation. Accordingly, he has directed lawyers and national security staff to assess the



1 See, e. S. Rept. 114?8 at 12 (Administration of Barack Obama) (?On April 3, 2014 . . . the Committee agreed to
send the revised Findings and Conclusions, and the updated Executive Summary of the Committee Study, to the
President for declassi?cation and public release?); H. Rept. 107-792 (Administration of George W. Bush) (similar);
E.O. 12812 (Administration of George H.W. Bush) (noting Senate resolution requesting that President provide for
declassi?cation of certain information Via Executive Order).

and these standards, the President has determined that declassification of the Memorandum is
appropriate.

Based on this assessment and in light of the signi?cant public interest in the memorandum, the
President has authorized the declassi?cation of the Memorandum. To be clear, the
Memorandum re?ects the judgments of its congressional authors. The President understands
that oversight concerning matters related to the Memorandum may be continuing. Though the
circumstances leading to the declassi?cation through this process are extraordinary, the
Executive Branch stands ready to work with Congress to accommodate oversight requests
consistent with applicable standards and processes, including the need to protect intelligence
sources and methods.

Sincerely,


Donald F. McGahn II

Counsel to the President

cc: The Honorable Paul Ryan
Speaker of the House of Representatives

The Honorable Adam Schiff
Ranking Member, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

From: HPSCI Majority Staff
Subject: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Abuses at the Department of Justice and the

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Purpose

This memorandum provides Members an update on significant facts relating to the
Committee?s ongoing investigation into the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI) and their use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (F ISA) during the
2016 presidential election cycle. Our ?ndings, which are detailed below, 1) raise concerns with
the legitimacy and legality of certain DOJ and FBI interactions with the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court (FISC), and 2) represent a troubling breakdown of legal processes established
to protect the American people from abuses related to the ISA process.

Investigation Update

- On October 21, 2016, DOJ and FBI sought and received a ISA probable cause order
(up; under Title VII) authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page from the FISC. Page is a
US citizen who served as a volunteer advisor to the Trump presidential campaign. Consistent .
with requirements under FISA, the application had to be ?rst certi?ed by the Director or Deputy
Director of the FBI. It then required the approval of the Attorney General, Deputy Attorney
General (DAG), or the Senate?con?rmed Assistant Attorney General for the National Security
Division.

The FBI and DOJ obtained one initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and three FISA
renewals from the FISC. As required by statute (50 U.S.C. a FISA order on an
American citizen must be renewed by the ISC every 90 days and each renewal requires a
separate finding of probable cause. Then-Director James Comey signed three FISA applications
. in question on behalf of the FBI, and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe signed one.
Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more
FISA applications on behalf of

Due to the sensitive nature of foreign intelligence activity, FISA submissions (including
renewals) before the ISC are classified. As such, the public?s con?dence in the integrity of the
FISA process depends on the court?s ability to hold the government to the highest standard??
particularly as it relates to surveillance of American citizens. However, the rigor in
protecting the rights of Americans, which is reinforced by 90?day renewals of surveillance
orders, is necessarily dependent on the government?s production to the court of all material and
relevant facts. This should include information potentially favorable to the target of the FISA


PROPERTY OF THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

2)

The ?dossier?- compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the
Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an
essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who
was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law ?rm Perkins Coie
and research ?rm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump?s ties
to Russia.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or
reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or. any party/campaign in funding
Steele?s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then
known to senior and FBI of?cials.

b) The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named US. person, but
does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a US. law
?rm (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOI at the,
time that political actors were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does
not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of?and paid by?wthe DNC and
Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the
same information.

The Carter Page FISA application also cited extensively a September 23, 2016, Yahoo
News article by- Michael Isikoff, which focuses on Page?s July 2016 trip to Moscow.

- This article does not corroborate the Steele dossier because it is derived from information

leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo News. The Page FISA application incorrectly assesses
that Steele did not directly provide information to Yahoo News. Steele has admitted in
British court ?lings that he met with Yahoo Newly?and several other. outlets?in
September 2016 at the direction of Fusion GPS. Perkins Coie was aware of Steele?s
initial media contacts because they hosted at least one meeting in Washington DC. in
2016 with Steele and Fusion GPS where this matter was discussed."

a) Steele was suspended and then terminated as an FBI source for what the FBI de?nes
as the most serious of violations?an unauthorized disclosure to the media of his
relationship with the FBI in an October 30, 2016, Mother Jones article by David
Corn Steele should have been terminated for his previous undisclosed contacts with
Yahoo and other outlets' 1n September?before the Page application was submitted to

b) Steele?s numerous encounters with the media violated the cardinal rule of source
handling?maintaining con?dentiality?and demonstrated that Steele had become a
less than reliable source for the FBI.

Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via
then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce 0hr, a senior DOJ of?cial who worked
closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein. Shortly after the
election, the FBI began interviewing 0hr, documenting his communications with Steele.
For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to 0hr his feelings against then-
candidate Trump when Steele said he ?was desperate that Donald Trump not get
elected and was passionate about him not, being president.? This clear evidence of .
Steele? bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in of?cial FBI ?les?but
not re?ected in any of the Page FISA applications.

a) During this same time period, Ohr?s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in
the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all
of his wife?s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via
Fusion GPS. The Ohrs? relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably
concealed from the FISC. .

According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill

Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its ?infancy? at the time of the initial

Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted

by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele?s reporting as only minimally

corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump

on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was??according to his June 2017

and unveri?ed.? While the FISA application relied on Steele?s

past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his
anti?Trump ?nancial and ideological motivations. Furthermore, Deputy Director

McCabe testi?ed before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant

would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

for
improper text messages with his mistress, FBI Attorney Lisa Page (no known relation to
Carter Page), where they both demonstrated a clear bias against Trump and in favor of
Clinton, Whom Strzok had also investigated. The Strzok/Lisa Page texts also re?ect
extensive discussions about the investigation, orchestrating leaks to the media, and
include a meeting with Deputy Director McCabe to discuss an ?insurance? policy against
President Trump?s election.


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Reading it now...curious why they are releasing it on a Friday afternoon.
 
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Reading it now...curious why they are releasing it on a Friday afternoon.


The President had 5 days to approve the declassification. The vote was on Monday last. The President approved it this morning, or perhaps last night.

It could not have been released earlier. Would you have them hold it over the weekend?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Very nice of President Trump, our 45th President, to time the release of 'the memo' to coincide with the 45th page of this thread!
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Seems kind of underwhelming. Confused
Jesus Christ. You haven't even read the memo.


I have now, sorry.

There seems to be enough there IMO that this Mueller sham/witchhunt can finally be shut down.


 
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Seems kind of underwhelming. Confused
Jesus Christ. You haven't even read the memo.


I have now, sorry.

There seems to be enough there IMO that this Mueller sham/witchhunt can finally be shut down.



Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein should be fired to start. Page and Strozk should have been fired long before now. McCabe should be fired immediately so he doesn't get his pension.

Funny how Comey talks about weasels and liars. Wink
 
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Reading it now...curious why they are releasing it on a Friday afternoon.


The President had 5 days to approve the declassification. The vote was on Monday last. The President approved it this morning, or perhaps last night.

It could not have been released earlier. Would you have them hold it over the weekend?


That is what usually happens. You release the stuff you want to bury onFriday afternoon and hold the good stuff until Monday. I guess they figure this story has already become big enough to not worry about the usual news cycles.
 
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Reading it now...curious why they are releasing it on a Friday afternoon.


The President had 5 days to approve the declassification. The vote was on Monday last. The President approved it this morning, or perhaps last night.

It could not have been released earlier. Would you have them hold it over the weekend?


That is what usually happens. You release the stuff you want to bury onFriday afternoon and hold the good stuff until Monday. I guess they figure this story has already become big enough to not worry about the usual news cycles.



Besides, NFL viewership is way down this season. Those that aren't watching are more sensitive to politics lately, and are more likely to be onto this memo.
 
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Funny how Comey talks about weasels and liars. Wink


It's funny as heck how Comey has turned from his normal self-righteous / vindictive tweeting to last night's strident message.

Here's hoping ol' Jimbo is getting a little nervous.



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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Reading it now...curious why they are releasing it on a Friday afternoon.


The President had 5 days to approve the declassification. The vote was on Monday last. The President approved it this morning, or perhaps last night.

It could not have been released earlier. Would you have them hold it over the weekend?


That is what usually happens. You release the stuff you want to bury onFriday afternoon and hold the good stuff until Monday. I guess they figure this story has already become big enough to not worry about the usual news cycles.


You want this out at the earliest possible moment, which is now. QED.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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That is what usually happens. You release the stuff you want to bury on Friday afternoon and hold the good stuff until Monday. I guess they figure this story has already become big enough to not worry about the usual news cycles.
No, this is simply a matter of actual timing.

The release-it-Friday-night technique is utilized when the party releasing the information wants the info to have minimal exposure. Do you think that's how the Republican-majority Intelligence Committee feels? Do you think that's how President Trump feels? Minimal exposure? Of course not. This is simply a matter of actual timing.


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You want this out at the earliest possible moment, which is now. QED.


I would imagine Super Bowl weekend had something to do with it too, there's going to be millions of people at bars and parties talking about this now.


 
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Democrats right now...



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Sunday morning talk shows. Why hold it until Monday when it's more than likely people will be talking about Brady's 6th SB ring.
 
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