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The Trump Presidency : Year II
December 06, 2018, 02:10 PM
slosigThe Trump Presidency : Year II
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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
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Originally posted by chellim1:
Trump/Haley 2020?
REPORT: Trump, Aides 'Seriously Considering' Replacing Mike Pence On 2020 Ticket
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Why??
Just a wild outsider’s guess, but I’d say that if the President makes the switch it will because he thinks she will be better in one or more ways. Perhaps now that he has a track record he doesn’t need the stable, solidly conservative aura of Mr. Pence to reassure potential voters so Mr. Pence brings less to the table. Perhaps having a women, and particularly as strong a woman as Ms. Haley is seen as likely to bring into the fold voters who otherwise might not vote for PDJT. Perhaps he is thinking long term. Who do you think is more likely to be able to win in 2024 and to move PDJT’s agenda forward after he is gone, Mr. Pence or Ms. Haley?
ETA: While I didn’t consider the source, you’ll note that I said “...if the President makes the switch...”
It is possible that Vanity Fair is just trying to stir stuff up. It is possible that PDJT or his team spun the rumor up just to stir stuff up. One of the great (and very entertaining) things about this President is how he starts a kerfuffle and while the media and libtards (and sometimes some of us) are losing their minds about the kerfuffle he quietly gets more winning done for the American people. Long live PDJT!
December 06, 2018, 03:29 PM
Pipe SmokerRe: “REPORT: Trump, Aides 'Seriously Considering' Replacing Mike Pence On 2020 Ticket”
I don’t believe it. Pence is a loyal and effective stalwart aide.
Serious about crackers December 06, 2018, 03:31 PM
parabellumWhat is the point of such speculation? Rumors do us no good.
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December 06, 2018, 03:32 PM
P220 SmudgeI’ll believe it when I see the announcement. We’re heard all manner of complete horseshit about this campaign and administration from day one, and it has mostly borne out to be exactly that: horseshit.
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December 06, 2018, 03:43 PM
2BobTannerNews media, even the pseudo versions, just trying to keep the shitpot stirred up, as they’ve been doing since January 20, 2017. Don’t mean nothing, ignore.
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December 06, 2018, 06:50 PM
sdyRemember the craziness at the CFPB when the former CFPB director tried to jam a DEM as his replacement ?
https://www.reuters.com/articl...m&utm_source=twitterThe U.S. Senate voted 50-49 on Thursday to confirm President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the U.S. consumer watchdog
Kathy Kraninger will serve as director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), replacing acting chief Mick Mulvaney, after Trump signs a declaration approving her five-year term.
The banking industry and consumer groups will be watching to see whether Kraninger, who is currently a senior official at the White House budget office, will take on Mulvaney’s mantle and continue to aggressively curtail the CFPB’s enforcement and rule-writing agenda.
Kraninger faced criticism during her nomination hearing in July about the role she played in the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy that separated more than 2,000 children from their parents.
The CFPB was formed in 2011 under Democratic President Barack Obama in the aftermath of the 2007-2009 financial crisis to protect ordinary Americans from predatory lending.
Democrats say the agency plays a critical role in protecting consumers, but Republicans have repeatedly criticized the CFPB as heavy-handed and overreaching.
December 06, 2018, 09:13 PM
deepoceanquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Re: “REPORT: Trump, Aides 'Seriously Considering' Replacing Mike Pence On 2020 Ticket”
I don’t believe it. Pence is a loyal and effective stalwart aide.
Somebody tell me the names of people who have been
consistently loyal to the President who he has fired. He wisely surrounds himself with consistently loyal people. The people who have left leaked or turned against him, or left because they chose to. If VP Pence stays loyal, VP Pence stays on the ticket.
December 06, 2018, 11:03 PM
chellim1I don't really care who's on the ticket with trump.
But I wouldn't be too surprised either way. He will wait to see how the dem primaries appear to be shaking out and then make the call.
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-rduckwor December 07, 2018, 10:21 AM
sdyPresident Donald Trump confirmed Friday that he will nominate
William Barr as his new Attorney General.
Barr served as Attorney General during the George H.W. Bush administration from 1991-1993, unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate. He is currently an attorney for Washington, DC law firm Kirkland and Ellis.
Barr wrote in a May 2017 op-ed that Trump was right to fire FBI Director James Comey, asserting that the former director “crossed a line” in the investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
He also told the New York Times that there was justification for further investigation of Clinton’s role in approving the Uranium One sale to the Russians.
“To the extent it is not pursuing these matters, the department is abdicating its responsibility,” he was quoted in a November 14, 2017 article.
Barr is 68 y.o.
December 07, 2018, 10:51 AM
Deqlynquote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
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Originally posted by chellim1:
Trump/Haley 2020?
REPORT: Trump, Aides 'Seriously Considering' Replacing Mike Pence On 2020 Ticket
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Why??
game theory to find leakers or control the narrative is my guess. DJT routinely made leaks in the 90s about his casinos to the media.
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TXJIM1991 - Barr unanimously confirmed.
2018 - Barr narrowly survives protracted Senate conformation battle in a complete media circus where several people come forward to claim they saw him abusing kittens.
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December 07, 2018, 10:56 AM
mbinkyHow long until the left demands Barr recuse himself?
December 07, 2018, 12:48 PM
doublesharpThis looks bad to me. Barr and Mueller worked together under Bush 41 and Barr appears to be a swamp creature bigtime.
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December 07, 2018, 04:46 PM
bald1quote:
Originally posted by doublesharp:
This looks bad to me. Barr and Mueller worked together under Bush 41 and Barr appears to be a swamp creature bigtime.
Rush presented a good deal of background on this guy today. His track record of positions pretty much jived with the Dick Cheney school of thought. So I think Trump knows what he's doing here.
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December 07, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jimbo54quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
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Originally posted by doublesharp:
This looks bad to me. Barr and Mueller worked together under Bush 41 and Barr appears to be a swamp creature bigtime.
Rush presented a good deal of background on this guy today. His track record of positions pretty much jived with the Dick Cheney school of thought. So I think Trump knows what he's doing here.
I thought Sessions was a good pick. Well, we now know how that turned out. I'm withholding my judgement on Barr until he has served for awhile. The swamp is large and deep and the shit floats to the top, so we'll see.
Jim
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December 07, 2018, 06:37 PM
doublesharpTrump has given no reason to doubt him and I am amazed at his stamina. Got to trust him now and I'm sure he knows how much is riding on his AG selection.
Lock Her Up & Drain the Swamp = Promises Made, Promises Kept.
We shall see.
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December 09, 2018, 07:24 PM
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December 09, 2018, 07:41 PM
P220 SmudgeSo I logged in to an online game I enjoy and the first thing I see in the global chat is some statement about how “The alt-right players are having a bad weekend with the news about Trump.” So, I went ahead and asked what news. “He’s been implicated in at least two felonies with more to come.”
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December 09, 2018, 09:14 PM
sjtillquote:
Barr brings much-needed experience and instant credibility to the task. After all, he has already been the nation’s chief federal law-enforcement officer, serving as attorney general in the last years of President George H. W. Bush’s term. He is a lawyer’s lawyer, having led the Department’s Office of Legal Counsel before being elevated by Bush 41 to deputy AG and, ultimately, the top job. He has rightly been adamant that, while an attorney general is a consequential administration official, the AG’s first allegiance is to the Constitution and the laws.
Importantly, when Barr was attorney general, the chief of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division was a fellow by the name of Robert Mueller — now the special counsel running the investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, including any Trump-campaign “collusion” therein.
Barr and Mueller had a fine working relationship. That will come in handy because, once Barr is confirmed, Mueller will again be reporting to him. The two men respect each other and know what to expect from each other. Mueller knows that Barr understands that investigations must be insulated from politics. In fact, when the now-lapsed independent-counsel law was in effect, Barr appointed one in 1992 to investigate the Bush administration’s scrutiny of then-candidate Bill Clinton’s passport file.
Still, Mueller also knows Barr will expect prosecutors to grasp that their authority is limited to deciding whether there is sufficient evidence to charge crimes. It is for Congress and the voters, not prosecutors, to go beyond questions of guilt or innocence, to make political assessments of a president’s fitness or judgment. I believe that, where Mueller has real evidence of a crime, Barr will be his strongest prosecutorial ally; and where Mueller lacks evidence, Barr will expect him to close the case the way prosecutors close cases — without fanfare.
At the moment, public focus on the Justice Department is tunneled around Mueller’s investigation, which, as Friday’s latest Trump Twitter tirade demonstrates, is consuming the president’s attention.
Trump maintains that there was no collusion with Russia by his campaign, and that he has not obstructed any investigations. Is it possible Mueller will reach conclusions that contradict these claims? Sure . . . but so far, with the investigation apparently winding down, he has not. The special counsel has filed many charging documents and public court submissions; in none of them has he accused the president of wrongdoing. By now, we know that Trump keeps his own counsel on these matters. Still, one hopes that Barr, with his gravitas and persuasive manner, might convince the president that it is in his interest to refrain from commenting. If Mueller’s eventual findings are damaging, there will be plenty of opportunity to contest them; but the special counsel could well clear Trump. Now is a time for a president to let things run their course, leaving the commentary to the commentators.
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December 10, 2018, 11:56 AM
Pipe Smoker^^^^^^
I’m trying to be optimistic about Barr, but there have been some DoJ disappointments: Sessions, Rosenstein, Wray.
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