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The Trump Presidency : Year II

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June 13, 2018, 12:57 PM
Sigmanic
The Trump Presidency : Year II
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Missed one:
Myth #6: Suspending "War Games" because Putin suggested it




Maddow was all about this one last night. Not a good word for Trump or the meeting, predictably from the noted America-hater.

Here's the monologue...if you can stand to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5vrYTFhYIQ
June 13, 2018, 12:58 PM
PASig
I suspect this shithead Mueller is going to make a high profile move on Cohen to distract from this IG report on his buddy Hillary tomorrow. We are talking shock and awe break-the-doors-down arrest theatrics.

Anyone think I'm wrong here? Ol' Bob is running out of ham sandwiches, fast.


June 13, 2018, 03:48 PM
justjoe
Trump declared that the main stream news media's fake news-- lead by CNN and NBC-- is America's biggest enemy. It's an incredible thing for a POTUS to say, and IMO completely justified. They are not merely incompetent-- Wolf Blitzer, Jake Tapper, Rachel Maddow-- they are scheming, hate-filled, and treacherous.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...rea-nuke-summit.html


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June 13, 2018, 04:25 PM
Bigboreshooter
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Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein is expected to brief President Trump on Thursday about the inspector general report on law enforcement’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe before it is released to the public

Why wouldn't the IG brief the President? Rosenstein is just as corrupt, if not more so, than anyone listed in the report.



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June 13, 2018, 04:48 PM
P229 357SIG Man
I'm with you on that one Bigbore.

Question to the brain trust...If Trump were to fire Sessions and Rosenstein, would he be able to appoint and interim/acting DA? If yes, then I think he should. Compare Trump's first 500 days to Session's time as AG...Trump is out there making it happen, a long list of accomplishments. When it comes to Sessions, what are his accomplishments?


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June 13, 2018, 05:40 PM
Gustofer
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Originally posted by P229 357SIG Man:
When it comes to Sessions, what are his accomplishments?

Well, he did wet his pants and almost cried while being questioned by Kamala Harris...so there's that.


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June 13, 2018, 07:40 PM
porterdog
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Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:

Why wouldn't the IG brief the President? Rosenstein is just as corrupt, if not more so, than anyone listed in the report.


Maybe that's *exactly* why. Smells like a long length of rope to me.

Maybe T$ is going to offer him one last opportunity to renounce the swamp and do the right thing.





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June 14, 2018, 01:09 AM
Andyb
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June 14, 2018, 08:47 AM
sdy
Happy B Day President Trump.

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June 14, 2018, 09:58 AM
SIG228
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Have to admit, that's pretty damn funny.
June 14, 2018, 10:23 AM
sjtill
From the Strategy Page, by Austin Bay. He points out that Trump had the same strategy for dealing with North Korea in 1999 :

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On Point: The Deep History Behind the Trump-Kim Singapore Summit
by Austin Bay
June 13, 2018
President Donald Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un have concluded their summit in Singapore.

The summit mixed theatrics and drama. At least two of the handshake photo ops included canny doses of Trumpian flattery. The summit produced a dictator's commitment to denuclearize and an agreement to continue discussions calculated to achieve denuclearization -- both indicative of promising diplomacy.

The phrase "a dictator's commitment" tempers the promise of peaceful resolution. Dictators break deals, and when they do, oppression certainly spreads, blood is shed and war may erupt. Adolf Hitler's disregarded Versailles and the wretched 1938 Munich Agreement, with grim results.

We know the Kim dictatorship habitually violates agreements. North Korea's 1968 Blue House Raid, authored by Kim Il Sung, shattered the 1953 Korean armistice. In 2009, his son, Kim Jong-Il, unilaterally declared the armistice "invalid." In 2011, Kim Jong-Il died and Kim Jong Un became dictator. In 2013, he one-upped his father and scrapped the armistice.

This untrustworthy and violent regime breaks agreements restricting nuclear weapons programs. It signed the Clinton administration's 1994 Agreed Framework, accepted its "soft power" economic benefits, and secretly continued its nuclear weapons quest. When caught by the Bush administration, North Korea slipped the "six nation talks" noose designed to squeeze it economically and politically then detonated a nuke in 2006.

The regime utterly suckered South Korea's Sunshine Policy which offered economic incentives in exchange for North Korean political moderation that never occurred. In 2010 Seoul terminated the Sunshine Policy.

In 2012, the "smart power" Obama administration watched as Kim Jong Un accelerated his nuclear and missile programs. That same year, a hot mic at a conference in South Korea caught Obama sending a message to Russia's Vladimir Putin that he would have more "flexibility" after the election regarding limiting American missile defense systems. A coincidence?

By 2016 and the end of the Obama administration, North Korea was clearly more dangerous than it was in 2011. It likely possessed several nuclear weapons and long-range missiles capable of striking North America.

Enter the Trump administration and a different approach: "maximum pressure" coordinated coercive diplomacy to eliminate North Korea's nukes.

On several occasions, I have written about Trump's October 1999 Meet the Press interview in which he summarizes America's weak responses to North Korea's quest for nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, that interview has received scant mainstream media attention, for it clearly links to his administration's 2017-2018 North Korean "de-nuclearization" operation, to include the Singapore summit.

This 1999 quote has resonance: "First I'd negotiate," Trump said, "and be sure I could get the best deal possible... The biggest problem this world has is nuclear proliferation. And we have a country out there in North Korea which is sort of wacko, which is not a bunch of dummies, and they are developing nuclear weapons... If that negotiation doesn't work, then better solve the problem now than solve it later."

His critics hissed when the president said he had been preparing for Singapore his entire life, but the interview demonstrates two decades ago he understood the North Korean threat and the Clinton administration's flawed policies.

In March 2017, then-secretary of state Rex Tillerson declared, "The policy of strategic patience" vis a vis North Korea was over and America and its allies were "exploring a new range of diplomatic, security, economic measures. All options are on the table." That meant war to destroy North Korean nukes was a possibility. Trump would solve it now, with bombs, if necessary. Tillerson added that if North Korea didn't end its strategic weapons programs, Japan and South Korea might have to acquire their own nuclear arsenals. Did Beijing blanch?

Subsequent administration denuclearization diplomacy has reinforced those statements, in word and deed.

A lot of difficult issues remain unresolved. The harsh economic sanctions on Pyongyang remain in place. Singapore was a step toward peaceful resolution and for the allies one cost free in blood and money. Suspending U.S.-South Korean military exercises pending North Korean cooperation was a symbolic gesture allowing Kim to save a little face. The U.S. and South Korea can end the symbolic suspension in five seconds.


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June 14, 2018, 11:34 AM
lkdr1989
This video about the Singapore Summit was apparently broadcast by North Korea state television and what's striking are the clips of life in a wealthy country and images shown of the signed agreement that talk about denuclearization of North Korea....this must've blown NK people's minds!

I watched it directly on youtube with closed-captioning which was highly entertaining!




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/8AwmdHH5-V4

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June 14, 2018, 11:37 AM
braillediver
North Korea broadcast the summit in real time. They seem to be serious.


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June 14, 2018, 11:44 AM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by SIG228:
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Have to admit, that's pretty damn funny.


Hilarious.


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June 14, 2018, 06:28 PM
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June 14, 2018, 06:48 PM
DoctorSolo
^^^ Big Grin
June 14, 2018, 06:59 PM
mutedblade
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Curing Cancer meme


They'd be spouting off about how there aren't enough resources for people because not enough are dying. Also, you'd have to account for the additional "climate change" since more people would be using those resources Roll Eyes .


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June 14, 2018, 07:39 PM
Fenris
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Originally posted by mutedblade:
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Curing Cancer meme


They'd be spouting off about how there aren't enough resources for people because not enough are dying. Also, you'd have to account for the additional "climate change" since more people would be using those resources Roll Eyes .

Plus the tragedy of unemployed oncologists.




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June 14, 2018, 08:16 PM
ilikefirearms
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Originally posted by braillediver:
North Korea broadcast the summit in real time. They seem to be serious.


Video shows Trump saluting the North Korean military officer. Wow. Like Trump or hate him, this is a dumb thing to do. You don’t salute the enemy. https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.8141c62af06e


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June 14, 2018, 08:33 PM
Fenris
Perhaps not protocol, but Trump was returning a salute. To have not done so would have been awkward.




The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC

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