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VERY Interesting Auction yesterday for an old 1911

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March 12, 2018, 09:32 AM
Tooky13
VERY Interesting Auction yesterday for an old 1911
Wish I'd picked up a couple of old Singer 1911's for a few hundred bucks back in the day!

https://www.gunbroker.com/item...utm_medium=HTMLEmail


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March 12, 2018, 09:56 AM
PHPaul
Pardon my ignorance, but what in HELL makes that worth $85K, other than someone was willing to pay that much for it.

1 of 1, owned by General Patton, taken off Hitler's body...what?




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March 12, 2018, 10:11 AM
arfmel
Good thing no chowderhead ever bumper chromed that one
March 12, 2018, 10:14 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
Pardon my ignorance, but what in HELL makes that worth $85K, other than someone was willing to pay that much for it.


1) Singers are the rarest USGI M1911A1s, with only 500 ever produced. They're the "Holy Grail" for 1911 collectors.
2) Condition appears to be excellent.
3) The Gunbroker Effect (Prices are often higher at auction, especially on Gunbroker, due to bidding wars, etc.)
4) Someone was willing to pay that much for it.

The first Singer (Serial # 1) sold for $80,500 at auction back in 2010, and that was in much rougher condition: https://www.rockislandauction....1-pistol-price-80500
March 12, 2018, 10:17 AM
PHPaul
Okay, 1 of 500 makes some sort of sense.

Hard for me to even imagine having that kind of disposable income tho.




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March 12, 2018, 10:21 AM
old rugged cross
Way, way out of my league. But in the grand scheme of things today. I am one certainly glad to see such a piece of American military history sold for a worth while price. Hope the buyer will cheerish and care for such a piece. I am happy to see this.



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March 12, 2018, 10:24 AM
David Lee
Aww it hadnt even been shot very much. First one Ive ever seen saled for $ 26,000.00. 2nd One I saw went somewhere over $ 60,000.00. I believe another did bring over 80 thousand. That is a nice one there. That old wide spur hammer just melts me. The barrel is beautiful exterior. I still would rather have a nice Union Switch and Signal.
March 12, 2018, 10:26 AM
David Lee
My beautiful GI 1943 Colt was Atwood inspected. Who is JKC Rogue ?
March 12, 2018, 10:28 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
Who is JKC Rogue ?


Colonel John K. Clement, the Army Ordnance inspector for the Singer 1911A1 order.


March 12, 2018, 10:30 AM
David Lee
Thank you. You gonna shoot it Tooky13 ? Big Grin
March 12, 2018, 11:44 AM
911Boss
I’d have to get it cut for Novak sight and a TFO upfront, then of to CCR for a sweet cerakote job..






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March 12, 2018, 11:48 AM
djpaintles
I got to hold a new in the box Singer 1911 once. The owner of a large firearms distributer had it out to show a potential buyer flying in to see it and he brought it out to show to me. At the time he was asking $25,000. I should have bought the thing myself! Looks like I could have more than tripled my money in 15yrs or so...............


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March 12, 2018, 12:12 PM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
I’d have to get it cut for Novak sight Trijicon RMR sight and a TFO upfront, then of to CCR for a sweet cerakote job...


If you are going to, go biggily.





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March 12, 2018, 01:00 PM
egregore
There is an apocryphal story of a guy who robbed a bank and used what turned out to be a Singer 1911. Not only was the gun worth far in excess of his "haul," he got busted. Funny whether true or not.
March 12, 2018, 01:22 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
I’d have to get it cut for Novak sight and a TFO upfront, then of to CCR for a sweet cerakote job..


Put some front slide serrations on it and you'd really have something.




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March 12, 2018, 01:37 PM
Rey HRH
I guess they made the guns in between doing batches of sewing machines??

Interesting piece of history.



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March 12, 2018, 01:47 PM
pbslinger
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I guess they made the guns in between doing batches of sewing machines??

Interesting piece of history.


In the listing it had some history about them making 1911's. It was a trial run, but they chose to make other military parts instead. The machinery then went to Remington and Ithaca.
March 12, 2018, 01:53 PM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by pbslinger:
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I guess they made the guns in between doing batches of sewing machines??

Interesting piece of history.


In the listing it had some history about them making 1911's. It was a trial run, but they chose to make other military parts instead. The machinery then went to Remington and Ithaca.
In addition, Singer wasn't going to be able to meet the 100 pistols/hr production requirement, so they never got the contract.

Edit:
Here is the Ser #1 price from 8 years ago $80.5k.
https://www.rockislandauction....1-pistol-price-80500


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March 12, 2018, 02:13 PM
Tooky13
quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
Thank you. You gonna shoot it Tooky13 ? Big Grin

Geez, I didn't buy it, I'm just the messenger!!
However, if it were mine, I think I would run a mag through it, so I could say I shot it. It's not like it's never been fired.


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March 12, 2018, 04:10 PM
YooperSigs
I was just trolling the Williams Gun sight used pistol site:
1920 Commercial Colt Government Model
Looked about 80%
$1800.00
And aren't Union Switch & Signal 1911s more rare that Singers?


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