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Sigforum K9 handler |
You were guilty from the word "gun" in your scenario. The semantics matter not. "Liberal City" is the key. In the free world, it is your word against theirs, and guess what? They aren't real good character witnesses because guaranteed they all have paper. Plus, as soon as the roaches scatter, you're going to call 911 to report what happened. It's not like you're going to pull your gun, they scatter, and then you just go on with your day like nothing happened. As CPD said, its time for good people to stop living in fear. | |||
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delicately calloused |
Makes a guy want his own body cam..... You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Very much so..... | |||
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| Member |
Small friggin' world indeed. St Mary Magdalene was where my Mother went to grade school. (Looooong before you were there in the '70s) My Grandfather owned the mom & pop grocery store / butcher shop on 83rd & Saganaw. Honest Joe Mokry. There was Novacks bakery, there was a bank, can't remember who owned that... Small world... You gotta be a hoot where you are now! Being a conservative gun owner and all out there!  ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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IIRC, this scenario is very similar to what happened to one of our forum members. In Philly. Came down to who called it in first. He miscalculated what they would do, let them go, and they dropped the first dime. Big stink with the cops, seized guns, legal fees, etc. They made his life miserable for well over a year. And he's a lawyer. Yeah, you may be right but you'd better play your hand extremely well when the time comes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And it's time that particularly, some of our corporations learned, that when you get in bed with government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep." - Ronald Reagan | |||
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| Big Stack |
^ Yeah, I remember that. It was Replacement Tommel. | |||
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Yup. Seems like a hundred years ago, doesn't it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And it's time that particularly, some of our corporations learned, that when you get in bed with government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep." - Ronald Reagan | |||
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posting without pants |
Deleted about 7 different posts.... Eventually there will be a time where enough of the silent majority stops being silent.... then being given a criminal will stop being cool... Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Hmmmmmm, I'm seeing a central theme from all the cops here........... I wonder if it is because we all know exactly how bad it has become, where others only think they do? | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
Isn't the rule never pull a gun unless you are going to use it? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Bad dog! |
You referred earlier to Colin Flaherty. He has done about all any journalist could possibly do to get the story out about black-on-white violence. But, still, not many Americans know his work. The MSM has done a monumental job of ignoring and even suppressing the story. I'm not a regular Rush listener, but has he even touched it? The fear of being called "racist" shuts everybody up. To me, the real story of the DART train mob is how common this kind of thing is-- everywhere in the country. And Flaherty has shown that they are growing in frequency and in scale. There have been huge "flash mobs" in cities like Chicago and Philly targeting whites who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Very possibly. I think the overwhelming majority of us already avoid going to places where trouble lurks so we don't see what you do. I'm also thinking that most of these incidents tend to occur in or near the heart of liberalism. Any gun owner deciding to walk into that (not to provoke, but willing to respond to a threat) is going to be facing a hostile political environment in which to sort through the legal system. | |||
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| delicately calloused |
I've known it for years. I chose to avoid it since any other act would 'racist'. Now with the new PC standard of micro aggression it appears avoiding anti white violence is racist too. No matter. We escaped to a Hamlet where all are equal and generally polite. If and when the thug culture finds us again, I'll deal with it. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Again, I think that the political response will be that of where you live. If you live in a liberal area, you were screwed at the word "gun". Around here if a single person is jumped and beaten by a mob of seven, tries to get away, is followed by the mob and continually beaten, and he/she shoots and kills one or two, there won't even be charges. Well, aside from the assault charges to those who are left standing that did the beating. Juries around here won't stand for this type of behavior, and neither will LE or the courts. | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Actually, that was CPD that brought up Flaherty. I'm actually guilty of only listening to his stuff in passing. I've heard Rush, Mark Levin, and Hannity all talk about the subject on their radio shows. Thugs come in many races. I'm not advocating violence towards anyone. I'm not advocating vigilantism. But, there comes a time to where enough is enough and the beatings have to stop, by self defense if necessary. Good people need to be able to go about their day without living in fear. Fear of the beatings, and fear of what may happen to themselves if they stand up. The cops on this board stand with everyone who thinks self defense is a fundamental right. I will speak for the rest of the guys here in that. | |||
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Yep. I remember that grocery store and when it changed owners. Another thread derail: I spent early years until 4th grade a few feet down from that grocery store. Right next to Saginaw Liquors, was a bakery. We had lived in the apartment upstairs. LOL yes, I stick out like a sore thumb here in Oak Park. Maybe it's the Primary Arms camo baseball cap... And regards to public transportation and this thread: I can picture a similar beatdown on the Blue Line or Green Line. Amazing how a concealed carrier is not allowed to carry on public transportation (I guess you can go into FOID Carry mode but I tend to just avoid the trains altogether). Hopefully moving in a year or so. | |||
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Diversified Hobbyist |
1) Dart allows concealed or open carry on their system.
Link to page 2) Depending upon the train, it may not have been possible for the victim to move to another car. From the video, it appears that he definitely could not have moved to a car in front as the door is clearly visible at one point. 3) jjones, I agree wholeheartedly with what you have stated in your posts. ----------------------------------- Regards, Steve The anticipation is often greater than the actual reward | |||
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| Member |
I believe if he had been CCWing he would be fine. Cowards, cockroaches, and the like always scurry and run away when they have been made. God Bless  "Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference." | |||
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Member |
Here it should be "Never use a gun until you pull it" "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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