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I'm curious to know how such a program would save taxpayers' money.


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It would be interesting to see reliable numbers on how many people receive food stamps. Then of that number how many abuse the system -- Ie, they are capable of self support but why work when the money is free. Or they play games with food stamps so they can buy forbidden stuff. Then do the same analysis by dollars, how many $$ are spent for valid use vs how many $$ are spent in abuse.

I think of the old adage, that which we attain too easily we esteem too lightly. The easier we make getting welfare the more abuse we will see. What many receive as compassionate charity one day, they will demand as a "right" the next day.




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As for the feasibility and logistics of the proposed new food program....

I can order probably any one of 50,000 items from Amazon and have it delivered to my front door the next day. I can get a delivery by Amazon from Whole Foods if I want to in less than two days. Amazon has a daily deal thing where you use a smart phone app to find the nearest location of one of their daily deal trucks and you can drive over to pick up whatever item on sale. I have no doubt the federal gov couldn’t implement the program but bring in private companies to handle the logistics. Let Bezos and Cuban come up with a solution. Cuban thinks he’s so damn smart, well here you go Mark.

Everyday I pull a handful of junk mail out of my mailbox and deposit it directly in my trash can. Hell, let the USPS deliver some food boxes instead of junk mail. Put some of the recipients of the free food program to work helping deliver food to their neighbors. Don’t want to contribute, then don’t eat.

We can shoot satellites out of orbit with a missile. We have a space station orbiting the earth. Don’t tell me we can’t deliver some damn food boxes to people.
 
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I'm curious to know how such a program would save taxpayers' money.


Do you think all the food stamp recipients actually need those stamps for food or do you think a percentage of them only get said stamps to use/trade for alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, hookers, etc?

How many recipients do you think will drop out of the program if they received food instead of [fake] money?


A few years back, my MIL had a person offer to pay for her groceries with food stamps. The person wanted cash in exchange for the stamps.


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"C" Rations. Give them cases of "C" Rations. That'll be the incentive to get them back to a meaningful job.


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let the PO deliver it in clearly marked GOV FOOD HELP boxes.


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It would have to be pickup. Imagine the amount of theft of boxes left at the front door on delivery day, not to mention damage to stuff left out in sub-freezing or 100+ degree temperatures.
 
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I think of the old adage, that which we attain too easily we esteem too lightly. The easier we make getting welfare the more abuse we will see. What many receive as compassionate charity one day, they will demand as a "right" the next day.


There is a related adage, poor folk have poor ways. Socitey often provides very decent low income housing to those in need, and the needy trash it. It's not that they are malicious, rather, many do not have productive, wholesome habits. But in the name of social justice and equality, they demand their right to live from other people's money.




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Once again..Chicago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20160819-story.html


The fraud is possible because the stores are in on the game.

http://www.miamiherald.com/new...article77078947.html


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So after a full week of working at a new convenience store, I have another sample set of EBT purchases to draw my conclusions from. Just last night, I did eight EBT purchases, and four of those were candy and cookies purchased along with sugary alcoholic drinks like Mike's Harder or Steel Reeserve Blueberry, and blunt wraps or Swishers. Two purchases were simply Hostess snacks cake type stuff. One young lady came back twice to get more cookies and some flavored blunt wraps. One fellow has been buying all his meals every day with a Colorado EBT card, he gets cold burritos and chicken sandwiches, no alcohol or tobacco, but also plenty of sweets. He's the first customer I've dealt with who is even in the ballpark of using the service the way it should be, and I think that's because he's homeless and these other people aren't. I stand by my prior assertion that these people shouldn't have the choice to spend taxpayer dollars this way.


Also, Rogue, I saw your prior post and yes, you're technically correct. But I'm not going to quibble SNAP vs. EBT. The terminal the purchases get rung up through say EBT in a zillion places, the card says EBT, the paperwork says EBT, the customers call it EBT, the only person in my whole experience with the thing that wants to insist on calling it SNAP is you. Razz


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