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Excellent. Like any agency, there are bad apples that ruin it for everybody. I remember the old days when you got an ass chewing that made you feel guilty and made the officer look bad cause you were in his neighborhood so you wanted to do better and felt good when he gave you a break which made you want to do better.
Now it is all about the revenue and with the old radar gun, it may have not been you but a tractor trailer further down the road. The last two tickets I got in the late 80's were someone else since I was in the slow lane and they passed me. And the Judge says, he was in the Navy and knew all about radar.
There are small towns that setup traps to get their revenue and do not care about anything else. Bedford is one of the small towns that sets up traps on Rt 460.
Sometimes the traffic flow on the interstate can be well over the speed limit. If you are in the slow lane and the traffic is heavy, you will impede the traffic flow by going the speed limit. I had my doubt's when they raised the speed limit on I81 to 70 MPH but it seemed to reduce the congestion at times.
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I stopped asking people "Do you want an ass chewing, or a ticket" a few years ago, but most went for the chewing. Stopped well before body cameras, probably before I had a body mic that worked regularly. It'd probably get ME an ass chewing these days.
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Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard.
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Thank you very much. I'll call him tomorrow.
Thanks, h2oys. Do you recall the attorney that you used?
Thanks again for all the advice. I really appreciate it!
I was going to offer my non-expert opinion. But this ^ is very sound advice.
Her ticket was in Shenandoah County, Woodstock VA. We are using Dragana McCleary of McCleary Law Offices. Their phone number is 540-459-2444. Something I also forgot to include in my original post is the judge also wanted her to complete a safe drive course. She was able to do this online and it cost about $50.
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Thanks. I have engaged an attorney and I am taking the defensive driving course at his suggestion. I have produced my driving record, which is completely clean. Also, I was polite to the officer; shook his hand and thanked him for serving after he gave me the ticket.
Between the three factors, my attorney thinks things look very good. He said this judge is big on the nature of the interaction with the officer.
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Good luck… I've always had great experiences with attorneys re: speeding tickets getting reduced to nonmoving violations.
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VA will do this a lot for drivers with clean records like yours: They will continue your case for a year or so and if you don't get a ticket during that time your charges will be dropped. It has happened to several of my friends.
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I think you are going about it the right way, please update us as to what happens.
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While I am partially in the "don't speed" camp.... some of this sounds absurd.
The entire point of traffic enforcement is road safety, or at least is supposed to be.
If I do a traffic stop, it is either for a bigger purpose (warrant, drugs, suspicious vehicle, etx) or because a driver is unsafe to the point of creating a hazard for other drivers.
I don't get some sort of bonus for writing tickets. I get EXACTLY zero for doing it. My only motivation for doing traffic enforcement is to combat unsafe driving. That means excessive speed, aggressive driving or road rage, drunk driving, or other similar behavior.
Anything else is just cops who can't actually be cops and have to get stats to justify their paycheck (or being pushed by a bad supervisor or command staff)
Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up."
If only that were the point!
There is a county adjacent to mine here in southeastern Idaho that derives a significant chunk of its operating budget from speeding fines imposed in the one-horse village of Georgetown, which lies astride US Highway 30 between Soda Springs and Montpelier. It's an egregious speed trap. A speed trap that exists NOT for public safety, but to tax strangers passing through in order to fund the county's operating budget.
Yes the best advice is "don't speed". But when the government uses strategically placed signage to turn unaware, unsuspecting, otherwise innocent drivers traveling through the middle of nowhere into law-breakers, that's different from catching drivers who are deliberately, with full knowledge, choosing to speed.
And that's not at all uncommon across the USA. Check out what this article has to say about it: Citation Nation
This is exactly how I feel. I don't stop anyone for less than 15 over the limit. Even then, it only earns them a warning. Even if something more serious is discovered during the stop, I don't tax them with the ticket. I've written exactly one speeding ticket in four years. The only reason I wrote that one was because the driver said I was lying about his speed. When I asked him how fast he thought he was going, I wrote him for that speed, which was still 7 over the limit.
VA is a different animal because of all the .gov money in NOVA. Traffic enforcement is like fishing, because a significant portion of the population is exceeding the speed limit (the beltway is only 55MPH), they merely pick someone to stop. The citation is written for the state, county, or local municipality. Oddly, MD and DC are smarter about this. They use revenue cameras, which are fines without points. MD and DC both generate a lot of revenue in the name of "safety". Just pay the speed tax.
I'm not a big speeder, not because I'm safety man, but because I dislike MD and HATE DC. Giving any additional revenue to socialists is something I try to avoid.
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Update as requested. After several re-schedulings, My case was finally heard yesterday. It was dismissed completely. I have to pay about $80 in court costs, but no ticket and no mar on my driving record. I hate their speeding trap game, but I am very glad to have come out with this result.
Good to hear. Appreciate taking the time to followup.
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Glad it worked out. I really dislike how some cities/counties enforces traffic/speeding in VA. That and what they consider reckless driving. Some jurisdictions do traffic just to bring in revenue.
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Glad it worked out for you
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Curious, if you don't mind saying, what did the attorney and any other cost (traffic school, etc.) add up to?
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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
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