And the skin flakes seem to disappeared too.

As others have stated, check with your vet, but Apoquel was a miracle cure for my Bullmastiff. Night and day difference from itching and being uncomfortable to being a normal dog. We tried different grain free diets and other things without success.

Our Bichon takes Apoquel, 8mg daily. It's a life saver.

Well tell me more about grain free diets being bad?
Granted it has been 4 years but that was the thing back then and granted my GSD had digestive issues it was the best for her.

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Doh!

Talked to wife...

Cytopoint is the name of the injection...last 4-6 WEEKS...not months.

Dog looks and acts 100% better just overnight...

How much does the cytopoint set one back?

Ouch just looked it up looks like about $160 a dose for her weight

Wife says the vet told her it helps "settle down" the allergies and may not be needed that often...just on bad flare ups or when their body gets overwhelmed with stress.

We are also on no grain diet.

This worked for my daughter's dog who chewed the hair off her hind quarters! The issue resolved and all the hair grew back nicely.
https://www.cbddispensaryshop....p-cbd-salve-for-dogs

Two Bloodhounds and learned that going grain free is what worked for them. Dealt with the itching with yhe first one for several years before going grain free. He would get really bad several times a year and i would give him a Benadryl once a day which worked ok but finally went grain free Blue Buffalo and it all stopped.

Keep reading posts about feeding grain free every time this topic or ones related to feeding grain free come up. Have come to the conclusion that everything is bad for us and our pets and just decide whats best in the long run. The BlueBuffalo grain free must taste good and sits well on the stomach as they eat it well and never tire of it.

Back in the day I was a cvt. Still keep up my licensure even though I’m not currently working in the field.
In order to do that I have to attend CE. One of the most recent I attended last year was in regards to grain free diets.
What they are discovering is that there can be severe heart issues as a consequence to feeding grain free to dogs. I believe this study was out of one of the best veterinary schools in Massachusetts- Tufts, maybe? Seriously- check with Jeff or slabsides- I believe Jeff is a nutritionist or at least has done enough research on pet diets and slabsides of course is a vet.

Yes, designer dog foods and grain free were all the rage.. but now we are seeing consequences and it’s leading back to that.

It’s time for a vet visit to determine whether your dog has allergies, and of what kind. Then a nutritionist to help determine the best diet after you figure out what she’s allergic to.
I’ve had two dogs with allergies: one with diet, the other some sort of a grass or irritant out in the yard. The irritant is easily solved with Apoquel, the diet dog was a lot harder (Many more years and $) but we finally fell into a Nutro product that didn’t cause allergies. I believe it was “natural balance“ or something like that. And of course remember to watch formulations manufactures change them all the time. Best of luck. Labs and allergies can go hand in hand, usually starting around age 2, iirc.

My Borzoi licks his feet raw, to the point of bleeding, every September and lasts until November. many trips to the vets, shots, creams, diet, antibiotics.... This year I bought a bottle of Healers hot spot cream from Chewy just to give him some relief. Within 2 days he totally stopped licking his feet, truly amazing stuff.

Black - Be sure to consider talking to your vet about the food you are feeding him. This may sound crazy but we were feeding one of our pups Blue Buffalo and at about 6-9 months he developed a food allergy that made his scratch all the time. Our vet recommended we change the type of food (went to a brown rice and chicken blend in Blue Buffalo) and within 1-2 weeks he stopped scratching and his coat got thicker and shiner.

Just wanted to share because the itching he is experiencing is from an underlying issue and the shot is just masking the problem, not fixing it....(according to what my vet told us)......Mark

Try switching the food. I tried various items for my dogs itch and dandruff when I first got him, added olive oil to his food, etc. etc. Nothing helped. I switched food brands and the dry skin, itching and dandruff went away within 3-4 days and has been for 10 years.

Anyone ever tried Dinovite?

This came from another SF thread a while back, we were running into other skin issues, loss of hair, lots of scratching, on top of the normal pink belly and sensitive skin, scratching to the point of damaging skin.

https://breedsy.com/best-anti-yeast-dog-food/

After several years of other food, grain free, seafood, etc with no changes, apoquel, shots, and now Cytopoint, we moved to one of the listed foods as stated in an earlier response.

We chose the brand I Love and You Sea Grain Free. For no real reason other than it was the middle of the pack. So far it's really helped reduce the trips to the vet for a shot and reliance on pills.

We've had one episode that required Cytopoint this year vs 4 to 6 previously...

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Anyone ever tried Dinovite?

We've used it for several years on a variety of dogs, Besenji, Husky, Aussie, Border Collie and a good ol' lab mutt. Haven't had 'itch' problems for a few years and their coats all have been nice and shiny. He he doesn't help with shedding, but seems to keep them happy.

If it is atopic dermatitis, you have a choice. Here is a good article:

https://vetmed.illinois.edu/st...poquel-vs-cytopoint/

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Apoquel. Ask about whether it’s right for your dog.

Our 2 year old pointer was scratching very bad all over.
He never scratched one spot enough to redden it, he just seemed itchy all over his body.
Scratching and licking what he could reach, and loosely biting on his front legs/paws.
He would pretty much put his front paws in his mouth and lightly use his teeth to scratch them.

We tried the cytopoint injection last year and it didn't seem to help much.
His itching subsided a month or so later.

He started it up again 3 months ago and the vet suggested Apoquel.
We got a 2 week trial run.

2 days later it seems he was scratching less.
We didn't realize how well it was working until we ran out.
2 more days after we ran out he was scratching again.

I then got a month supply, right at $100.
Now just a normal scratch once or twice a day instead of every 10 minutes.
We are going to let this run out and see if whatever has him itching is a seasonal thing.

I hope this isn't a med everyday for the rest of his life.
But for Maverick, the Apoquel really helped.

Of course you can find some articles on how bad it is for dogs, but that's the internet.

Labs do not need bathing often. I have several, do both hunt and conformation trials. I bath them three to four times a year. They need the oil for their fur and skin. You can hose off if muddy but no washing.

This could be several other issues. I agree have a vet see. I would not use the home remedy route for now. Need to know cause before can prescribe a cure. Good luck.

Back from the vet. This is our first visit since getting her a few weeks back as I knew she is fat! Did not realize how fat. She weighed in at 90 lbs today.
I bet she is down at least 5lbs from when we got her. According to her vaccination record (only thing I really have about her past) she weighed 74 lbs on Oct. 29 2019.
So Doc wants her down to about 70 lbs. so less dog food and more green beans.
He is a big into animal nutrition and is not concerned about the recent “studies” into grain free being bad. He feeds all his dogs grain free, has for decades, has had no issues, and no plans to change.
He suggested a Duck, Venison, or Salmon recipe. Specifically Hills Science Diet or Royal Canin but those suckers are big money.
He said most important being that the company uses deboned meat. So I am reading and researching as I don’t think $4 a pound is necessary unless we find a major health issue.
No parasites, no fleas, or any evidence of biting insects.
She does however have a very severe staph infection to her skin. Says it is not contagious and likely caused by untreated allergies.
So I have to give her a medicated bath for the next three days, along with a couple antibiotics for 2 weeks, and Apoquel.
He says in 3 days we should see night and day difference in her itching.
Check up in 2 weeks to look at her skin and weight.
There is no going inside the vet. They come get her out of the truck and take her in. So new people new place she did not want to leave the truck without me. Once she was out she was golden. Vet mention right off the bat how sweet and friendly she was.
He was surprised to find out we had only had her 3 weeks.
She is pretty tuckered out from visit and bath.

Black, check the ingredients in SD and Royal Canine. Avoid corn, wheat, soy and by-products of any kind.

If you’d like, send me an email. I can send you an allergy test at my cost. It’s comprehensive and fast.

Make sure you use the same guidelines with treats as you do with food.

Jeff(at)petplaceboone.com.

Another vote for the Apoquel here.
Helga, the Old English Bulldog gets a 16mg tablet once daily.
Since a puppy, she has always have had skin issues going on.
This stuff made all the skin, eye, and ear problems disappear.
All other treatments only lasted for a few weeks, and would then reappear.

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