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^^^^^^^^^^

Reminds me of the time when actress Gwyneth Paltrow had a fundraiser and advocated limitless power for Obama, "all the power he needs". Basically a ruler, a dictator.



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limitless power for Obama, "all the power he needs".
Basically a ruler, a dictator.

Inside Every Liberal Is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out

The Progressive believes in precisely two things: his own magnificence and the constructive power of brute force. In combination, they lead him naturally from the role of pestiferous busybody to brutal dictator. Where the productive man dreams of the things he might create if only left alone by his fellows, the Progressive dreams of the world he could create if only the lives and property of his fellows were at his disposal. The roots of his pathology lie in that oldest and most destructive of all human vices, the desire for the power to rule over other men.

As naked power-lust is a rather ugly motive, the Progressive rationalizes his desire to rule as a concern for human welfare, seeing himself as a great humanitarian, far superior morally to the lesser beings who pursue merely “materialist” ends such as their own prosperity and who frequently object to his program for achieving Utopia. This assumed moral superiority spills over into fields of practical accomplishment, and the Progressive imagines himself capable of allocating resources and even directing entire industries far more efficiently than a free market, often despite not even having any business or scientific experience. But despite what the Progressive believes about himself, the desire to compel others to obey his orders is what drives him forward. To satisfy this desire, there is ultimately no limit to what actions he will take, for he respects none of the restrictions on government officials intended to guarantee individual freedom that have been developed and set forth in written or unwritten constitutions.

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I saw this headline and I actually Laughed Out Loud.

The case for abolishing the Supreme Court

It is like these people have never actually studied history.


That was an interesting read. The professor is clearly a liberal but doesn't seem to be a hack. He came across as thoughtful and reasonable.

Still, he does seem to have aviewpoint that is diametrically opposed to the system set up by the Founders. It also seems that he is unable to come up with a solution better than the current system of judicial review. Every thing he proposes just has different problems.

The bottom line is that in a constitutional system based on limited powers, there has to be a mechanism of determining when the government has exceeded the limits of its powers. You cannot rely on any system that gives the legislature or executive the power to determine for themselves whether they have exceeded their authority (as in the dialogic system he references) because they will always believe that they have the power to do whatever it is they wish to do.

So then it is just a matter of determining who else gets to pass judgment. The idea of a larger body of legal scholars from which a smaller panel is randomly selected to hear each case is interesting and worthy of exploration. But you do run into the same issues of who gets to decide who sits on this body. And I don't see how a decision whose outcome depends on a random selection of arbiters is any more fair than a decision that is decided by 9 sitting permanent justices. If the random panel happens to be majority liberal or majority conservative, you have the same problems.
 
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“The [conservative] son of former President Barack Obama's National Security Advisor Susan Rice claims he was assaulted while on Stanford's campus on Tuesday during a confrontation over his support of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

John Rice-Cameron, who is president of the Stanford College Republicans (SCR) and a member of the 2020 graduating class, alleges he was pushed in the chest by Melinda Hernandez from the class of 2021 in White Plaza, in the middle of Stanford's campus.

Hernandez was cited by the school for misdemeanor battery after interviews with witnesses, Stanford Department of Public Safety spokesman Bill Larson told Mercury News…”

https://dailym.ai/2Ce3U3f



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Originally posted by redstone:
I saw this headline and I actually Laughed Out Loud.

The case for abolishing the Supreme Court

It is like these people have never actually studied history.


we could abolish democrats and socialists and have zero impact on the Constitution...



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Originally posted by redstone:
I saw this headline and I actually Laughed Out Loud.

The case for abolishing the Supreme Court

It is like these people have never actually studied history.


That was an interesting read. The professor is clearly a liberal but doesn't seem to be a hack. He came across as thoughtful and reasonable.

Still, he does seem to have aviewpoint that is diametrically opposed to the system set up by the Founders. It also seems that he is unable to come up with a solution better than the current system of judicial review. Every thing he proposes just has different problems.

The bottom line is that in a constitutional system based on limited powers, there has to be a mechanism of determining when the government has exceeded the limits of its powers. You cannot rely on any system that gives the legislature or executive the power to determine for themselves whether they have exceeded their authority (as in the dialogic system he references) because they will always believe that they have the power to do whatever it is they wish to do.

So then it is just a matter of determining who else gets to pass judgment. The idea of a larger body of legal scholars from which a smaller panel is randomly selected to hear each case is interesting and worthy of exploration. But you do run into the same issues of who gets to decide who sits on this body. And I don't see how a decision whose outcome depends on a random selection of arbiters is any more fair than a decision that is decided by 9 sitting permanent justices. If the random panel happens to be majority liberal or majority conservative, you have the same problems.


Do you think he ever heard of or read “The Federalist Papers?” There they discuss what they were trying to do, the various schemes they thought about and the ones they actually ended up with.

The goal was to eliminate or minimize tyranny. That’s what they feared. These guys seem to want to promote tyranny.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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^^^^^^^^^^

Reminds me of the time when actress Gwyneth Paltrow had a fundraiser and advocated limitless power for Obama, "all the power he needs". Basically a ruler, a dictator.


Good Lord, she's a twit.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^

Reminds me of the time when actress Gwyneth Paltrow had a fundraiser and advocated limitless power for Obama, "all the power he needs". Basically a ruler, a dictator.


Good Lord, she's a twit.
This is news?

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Yeah but Trump is going to invoke martial law and halt the elections......or was that Obama......or Bush.........or Clinton.

Folks need to take a chill pill and bone up on what it means to be a Constitutional Republic. We are NOT a Democracy and frankly nobody would be happy if we were.


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Jeff Flake thinks "it doesn't seem right for the REPs to spike the ball" and have an event at the WH to celebrate Kavanaugh being on the SC. Flake is concerned just the REPs were there.

https://hotair.com/archives/20...onfirming-kavanaugh/

Can Flake be this dumb ? It's like McCain Jr.
 
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Jeff Flake thinks "it doesn't seem right for the REPs to spike the ball" and have an event at the WH to celebrate Kavanaugh being on the SC. Flake is concerned just the REPs were there.

https://hotair.com/archives/20...onfirming-kavanaugh/

Can Flake be this dumb ? It's like McCain Jr.


I get the impression that Flake isn’t cut out for this kind of work.

Maybe that’s why he’s moving on.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Jeff Flake thinks "it doesn't seem right for the REPs to spike the ball" and have an event at the WH to celebrate Kavanaugh being on the SC. Flake is concerned just the REPs were there.

https://hotair.com/archives/20...onfirming-kavanaugh/

Can Flake be this dumb ? It's like McCain Jr.


I get the impression that Flake isn’t cut out for this kind of work.

Maybe that’s why he’s moving on.

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Yeah I can imagine him in high school. His high school team has just beaten its crosstown rival, and he stops the celebration because it would just not look right. Bet he was really popular.
 
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Well, someone's gotta be the house Republican at MSNBC. I mean, Joe Scarborough's been acting like he's got tenure or something.
 
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Maybe that’s why he’s moving on.


Along with 40+ House Republicans.


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I speak jive.
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Most of the hardcore Leftists I know foolishly believe in the notion of the mythical Benevolent Dictator, and half of them think they're qualified, somehow smarter than everyone else and somehow able to resist the trappings and actually be benevolent.

I remind them that there's never been one, a Benevolent Dictator, never once in all of human history. Both Tyrannies of the Majority (pure Democracy) and Benevolent Dictators (Dictators, of course) are some of their favorite things to wish for, and both are dangerous.
 
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^^^ You would think that Democrats, of all people, would understand the concept of herding cats. They've never been any more able to come to a consensus among themselves (don't let the fronting fool you) than they have been to come to consensus with people who aren't Democrats.
 
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Most of the hardcore Leftists I know foolishly believe in the notion of the mythical Benevolent Dictator, .....


Yes, they really do. In fact, they have even admitted its NECESSITY:
"If American champions of civil liberty could all think in terms of economic freedom as the goal of their labors, they too would accept "workers' democracy" as far superior to what the capitalist world offers to any but a small minority. Yes, and they would accept — regretfully, of course — the necessity of dictatorship while the job of reorganizing society on a socialist basis is being done." --Roger N Baldwin, Founder of the ACLU


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When I hear their BS, I try to ignore them rather than losing my temper at their abject stupidity.

I have found that one good way to shut them up it to suggest they study the rise and fall of East Germany. Really happened, and in the lifetimes of most of those knotheads who continueto espouse that crap.


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"If American champions of civil liberty could all think in terms of economic freedom as the goal of their labors, they too would accept "workers' democracy" as far superior to what the capitalist world offers to any but a small minority. Yes, and they would accept — regretfully, of course — the necessity of dictatorship while the job of reorganizing society on a socialist basis is being done." --Roger N Baldwin, Founder of the ACLU


The ignorance of people who are still convinced of the same thing after the 70+ years that the exact same thing was thoroughly explored in the Soviet Union is literally stunning.

A book that examines the entire Soviet Communist experience is The Soviet Tragedy: A History of Socialism in Russia, 1917-1991 by Martin Malia. That book makes it clear that it’s not necessary to criticize socialism on the basis of economic theory and human nature, but that all we must do is look at historical fact.




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The Soviet Tragedy: A History of Socialism in Russia, 1917-1991 by Martin Malia. That book makes it clear that it’s not necessary to criticize socialism on the basis of economic theory and human nature, but that all we must do is look at historical fact.

Yeah, but there's a reason why it's called human nature. Wink



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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