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The changes are basically nothing. Playing word games really. If it passes the senate, it goes to reconciliation, and if I'm not mistaken, the dems can put everything back in it. By the way, looking at the picture posted above, at least one of the officers was a state po po. The fella with the gold shoulder patches is state. The other picture I saw were all capital police.
 
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I received an email response from Mark Cole (88th district). Following is a snip:

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Thanks for taking time to write and share your feelings about HB 961. I am sorry to say, despite my NO vote the bill passed the House (51-Y 48-N) and now goes to the Senate for their review.

This bill will do little if anything to hinder the criminal use of firearms in the commission of violent crimes. My record on gun control efforts is clear: I oppose this legislation and similar bills aimed at denying all of us the right to defend ourselves with a gun.

Unfortunately, an anti-gun majority has taken control of the General Assembly and the Governor can't wait to sign these measures into law. I'm sure that we will be turning to the federal courts on the grounds that broadly speaking, these bills are contrary to the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. I encourage you to continue your activism and to become active in local and state-wide legislative battles through the several organizations rallying law abiding citizens on these issues.


I'm encouraged that there seems to be an effort already to challenge new overbearing laws in federal court.

That said, it's no time to let up. Keep the heat on Virginia's senators now.




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Does VA have an gun rights rules baked into the state constitution?
 
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I received an email response from Mark Cole (88th district). Following is a snip:

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Thanks for taking time to write and share your feelings about HB 961. I am sorry to say, despite my NO vote the bill passed the House (51-Y 48-N) and now goes to the Senate for their review.

This bill will do little if anything to hinder the criminal use of firearms in the commission of violent crimes. My record on gun control efforts is clear: I oppose this legislation and similar bills aimed at denying all of us the right to defend ourselves with a gun.
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That said, it's no time to let up. Keep the heat on Virginia's senators now.



Thanks for posting that.


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Thanks for posting that.


Certainly. We needed an extra dose of positivity today.




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Does VA have an gun rights rules baked into the state constitution?


Yes, Art. 1 Sec. 13, and it's even stronger/clearer than 2A.



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If anyone cares, today’s iraqveteran8888 gun gripe video on YouTube is about West Virginia welcoming red Virginia’s red counties to succeed and join West Virginia. Sounds good to me.


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Does VA have an gun rights rules baked into the state constitution?


Yes, Art. 1 Sec. 13, and it's even stronger/clearer than 2A.


I guess the assholes in Richmond don't know how to read.
 
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I guess the assholes in Richmond don't know how to read.


They don't care what the Constitution says. When you have the ninth richest man in the world backing your play, you can easily say, "Fuck you, sue us." There aren't enough pro bono lawyers in the world to challenge all these new laws.




You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.

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fpuhan - do you think it will pass in the senate?
 
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What is happening in Virginia is also happening elsewhere...

In Steve Malanga's article "Calculating the Californication" from City Journal, he had a rather optimistic view that Californians fleeing what is rapidly devolving into Zimbabwe on the Pacific might understand what they are fleeing from and not bringing their politics with them (or that it's mostly non-Leftists that are fleeing in droves). I certainly hope that that is the case since if what happened to Virginia ever happens to the red states they flee to, especially Texas, then it's lights out America, regardless of who wins subsequent national elections.
https://www.city-journal.org/c...a-migration-politics

But the question remains, whither Virginia? With the citizenry now fully aware (at least they should be) that the Democrat tyrants in office are out to subjugate them, and that a growing number of counties and their law enforcement infrastructure are openly declaring defiance of the gun edicts, sooner or later there is going to be a showdown. Already, there is serious talk about many counties splitting off and joining West Virginia. Better yet, they should just secede and declare statehood. That might even have a ripple effect with places like New York City, DC that, in turn, could be countered by one or more rural California counties. Ugh.

Whatever may happen, it is clear in Virginia and in the rest of the nation, what cannot go on will not go on. At least it shouldn't.

NEW ORDER IN THE OLD DOMINION

  • Virginia Lawmakers Vote to Allow Illegals to Obtain Driver's Licenses
  • Virginia House Passes Bill to Award Electoral Votes to Popular Vote Winner
  • Democrats in VA Legislature Walk Out on Black Pro-Life, Defense-of-Marriage Pastor
  • Democrats in VA and AZ Issue a Warning: "We Will Oppress You if You Elect Us!"


Most of the discussion about this story has been focused on the opposition to the laws themselves. I want to focus on what it tells us about the modern Democratic Party. You see, these fascist actions - which do nothing to reduce violence or crime while making law-abiding citizens criminals - are being planned by practically every local Democratic Party operation across the nation. All they require to make them law is to obtain power, as they have in Virginia... Give these Democrats a single legislative session where they run the show, and they are now telling us what they plan to do.

Nor is this an outlier. We've seen similar odious laws passed in New York, California, Maryland, and in practically every state where the Democrats run the government. They are blatant about what they want to do. No one should have any doubts about it.

More important, they are giving us a clear warning about their long-term plans. They not only want to deny ordinary citizens the right to defend themselves, they have made it clear they have utter contempt for those citizens, and will move to destroy all their freedoms if given the chance. Like the socialists in Venezuela, as soon as they have power they will use it to shut down all opposition, ending any semblance of democracy and freedom...

http://ace.mu.nu/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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fpuhan - do you think it will pass in the senate?


Yes. There is pushback from the Republicans in the GA, but there aren't enough of them.

The Dems in the Virginia GA are like sharks smelling chum in the water.




You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.

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I was born in Virginia and am quite proud of what She has done in the past. The present not so much. My ancestors are rolling in their cold coal stained graves. Everyone of my ancestors as near as I can tell stood for the Constitution and especially the second amendment. I hope the radical Dems will bring to Va. Population just what they are all about. Similar to what Obama and his minions did to America. It took a Obama to get The silent majority off of their asses to vote in a President to reset to what is and will be for the foreseeable future. I only hope Virginians see the same light. Keep up the good fight my fellow Kin. Keep the Trump Spotlight of Truth on these idiots and drive them from office. You will win in the end.
 
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Keep the Trump Spotlight of Truth on these idiots and drive them from office.


Worth repeating!




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A bump and email from the PBA. If others want to call/email as well we can use all the help we can get.

SSPBA Members,

Virginia State Delegate Mark Levine's assault weapon bill, (HB 961), has passed the House of Representatives and has been sent to the Senate of Virginia for hearings. Indications are it will be heard in the Judiciary Committee, but has not yet been assigned or scheduled.

In anticipation of a hearing in the coming days we would like to encourage all Virginia PBA members, all SSPBA members and all friends of our Association to take the time to contact the below listed Senators who will decide if this bill moves forward in the Senate. We encourage all law enforcement professionals to let each of these Senators know that we oppose this legislation which represents a government overreach and does nothing to reduce crime or protect citizens.

Please email, call or write these senators and ask them to help defeat HB 961. The Democrat Senators on this committee should be the focus but we appreciate your efforts in contacting all of the committee members.

Please don't sit on the sidelines watching, get into this fight and let these elected officials know where you, and law enforcement, stand on this issue.

To access a direct link to the Senators please visit the Virginia Legislative Services 2020 session web site at https://lis.virginia.gov and click on General Assembly Members to find the Senators.

Thank you in advance for your assistance in stopping this legislation in Virginia and helping to keep similar legislation from spreading to other states.

Sean McGowan
VAPBA Executive Director
smcgowan@sspba.org
sspba.org


Senator John S. Edwards (D) - Senate District 21
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E506
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7521
email: district21@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Richard L. Saslaw (D) - Senate District 35
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E602
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7535
email: district35@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Thomas K. Norment, Jr. (R) - Senate District 3
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E603
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7503
email: district03@senate.virginia.gov


Senator L. Louise Lucas (D) - Senate District 18
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E604
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7518
email: district18@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Mark D. Obenshain (R) - Senate District 26
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E502
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7526
email: district26@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Ryan T. McDougle (R) - Senate District 4
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E501
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7504
email: district04@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Richard H. Stuart (R) - Senate District 28
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E611
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7528
email: district28@senate.virginia.gov


Senator William M. Stanley, Jr. (R) - Senate District 20
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E504
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7520
email: district20@senate.virginia.gov


Senator A. Benton "Ben" Chafin (R) - Senate District 38
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E514
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7538
email: district38@senate.virginia.gov


Senator R. Creigh Deeds (D) - Senate District 25
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E503
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7525
email: district25@senate.virginia.gov


Senator J. Chapman Petersen (D) - Senate District 34
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E517
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7534
email: district34@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Scott A. Surovell (D) - Senate District 36
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E617
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7536
email: district36@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Jennifer L. McClellan (D) - Senate District 9
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E512
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7509
email: district09@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Jennifer B. Boysko (D) - Senate District 33
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E513
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7533
email: district33@senate.virginia.gov


Senator Joseph D. Morrissey (D) - Senate District 16
In-session address:
Pocahontas Building, Room E614
900 East Main Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 698-7516
email: district16@senate.virginia.gov


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This guy, Mark Levine, is Virginia's version of Michael Bloomberg. Without the billions.

He's sponsored the aforementioned HB 961, the National Popular Vote Compact (HB 177), and more. Read the horror story here.

Per his web site, "To say law week was a busy week is an understatement. Last week, sixteen of my bills passed the House, a committee, or a subcommittee. And five were continued to next year.

"As this new Democratic House has introduced 40% more bills than any other House in Virginia history, it's been a very busy time. Most weekdays, I woke up around 6 am and finished work after midnight. I made it back to Alexandria Friday night and collapsed and slept through much of Saturday. Today (Sunday) I am rested and spent most of the day writing you this newsletter in anticipation of one more very long full week in subcommittees and committees." (emphasis mine).

Levine can be seen making a fool of himself in this video, trying to describe what an "assault weapon" is:





You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.

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^^That's as bad as I remember it when there at that town hall. I need a stiff drink now...
 
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Sorry link is a FB one. PWC BoS member.

Lefty tries out range.

I have to applaud the guy just for expanding his horizon and stepping out of his comfort zone.



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Monday, February 17, 2020 - President's Day - the Virginia Senate Judiciary Committee is going to be debating HB 961, the "crown jewel" in the Bloomberg/Northam gun-grabbing agenda. It passed out of the House and now it will be reviewed by the Senate committee before being sent to the floor for a vote.

To date, the arguments against this bill have all been centered on its constitutionality. Last night, I found the email addresses of all the Judiciary Committee members and sent them an email taking a different tack: the potential financial impact on the state of passing this bill.

I reminded them that in 1920, the federal government, to the point of a Constitutional Amendment, attempted to outlaw liquor. This was a failed effort that lasted 13 years and merely resulted in the manufacturing, transportation and sale of alcohol being forced underground and into the hands of shady characters. Finally realizing the futility of this effort, another amendment was passed, repealing the former.

Noting that there are hundreds, if not thousands of gun parts manufacturers in this country, most of which are small (less than two dozen employees), I could see an "underground economy" springing up where all a Virginian would need to do is drive a short while across a state border, and acquire all the guns, gun parts and ammo they wanted - a net loss of revenue to the state of Virginia! Reducing the tax income would also make gun purchases and their use "blind" to authorities, in essence, making every new gun in Virginia a "Saturday night special."

Well, I didn't use all of the words and examples above, but I think you get my meaning. The Leftists in the General Assembly have already turned a blind eye to the Constitution (how often do we hear them blithely say, "We're only doing what we were elected to do?" as if that made a difference!). But I think if they get hit in the pocketbook, they might take another look at the "Law of Unintended Consequences."

If you think my argument has merit, I suggest you might do the same. Here are the email addresses of the Virginia Senate Committee on the Judiciary:

district21@senate.virginia.gov,
district35@senate.virginia.gov,
district03@senate.virginia.gov,
district26@senate.virginia.gov,
district18@senate.virginia.gov,
district04@senate.virginia.gov,
district28@senate.virginia.gov,
district20@senate.virginia.gov,
district38@senate.virginia.gov,
district25@senate.virginia.gov,
district34@senate.virginia.gov,
district36@senate.virginia.gov,
district09@senate.virginia.gov,
district33@senate.virginia.gov,
district16@senate.virginia.gov




You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.

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I dont know if this will work. He is an Attorney in Virginia Beach and it is Anderson and Associates, PC But the videos (live streams) are only on Facebook. He does a great job of summing up the legality, court precedence etc. of what is at stake. I apologize for not being able to find a way to make it viewable outside of Facebook.



This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson
 
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