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For those of you going, I wonder if it would be better to protest outside the fencing and refuse to enter.


This is the plan my coworkers who are going have discussed. No flippin' way we're going into that pen.


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UPDATE: Virginia Supreme Court rejects gun groups' bid to overturn Northam's gun ban

https://www.richmond.com/news/...5a-239647ecaa12.html

Citing the "extraordinary" nature of an injunction, the "weighty issues" involved and a lack of sufficient information, the Virginia Supreme Court Friday evening refused an emergency petition seeking to bar enforcement of Gov. Ralph Northam's temporary gun ban on the grounds of the state Capitol.

The ruling leaves in place the ban Northam imposed earlier this week, citing concerns about public safety at a gun-rights rally planned for Monday at the state Capitol that organizers say could draw 50,000 people. Northam's order bars guns and other weapons from Capitol Square from Friday night through Tuesday night.

A Richmond Circuit Court judge had upheld the ban late Thursday. Gun Owners of America, The Virginia Citizens Defense League and others appealed that decision to the Virginia Supreme Court.

In a two-page order Friday, the justices wrote: "Under the circumstances, we are unable to discern whether the circuit court abused its discretion.

"The circuit court decided this case in less than one day, and, accordingly, the record before the court is scant, there is no transcript or written statement of facts detailing the events of the hearing, and we are unaware of any evidence that was taken. The only information we have on which to resolve the weighty issues raised by the parties are pleadings accompanied by cursory attachments. Accordingly, the petition is refused."

The firearms-rights advocates filed a lawsuit in Richmond Circuit Court Thursday against Northam and Capitol Police Chief Steve Pike, whose agency would enforce the ban. The complaint includes three citizen plaintiffs who say they were planning to attend Monday’s rally with their firearms.

"Without relief from this court, petitioners and thousands of other rally participants will be irreparably denied their right to bear arms," they argued in their emergency appeal.

Judge Joi J. Taylor presided over a hearing Thursday afternoon and ruled against the plaintiffs just as court closed for a four-day weekend, prompting the appeal to the Virginia Supreme Court.

Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring argued Friday that Taylor did not abuse her discretion in denying a bid to block Northam's executive order.

The attorney general argued, among other things, that the order does not violate the right to bear arms; that there is no constitutional right to carry firearms in Capitol Square; that there is no violation of free speech or assembly; and that any restriction is justified by the interests in protecting public safety.
"The governor is vested with the power to take action from time to time as is necessary for the adequate promotion and coordination of state and local emergency services activities relating to the safety and welfare of the commonwealth," Taylor wrote in her three-page ruling.

"The plaintiffs in this case will not suffer an irreparable harm sufficient to justify the injunction," she added.

Lawyers for the firearms-rights groups did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Carl Tobias, a professor at the University of Richmond School of Law, said it is possible the gun-rights advocates could appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. "But I don't think they are going to get much of a reception there, either," he said.

"As the court says, it's such a weighty matter; it's the 11th hour; it's just too important a question about the 1st and 2nd Amendments and an emergency to rush to judgment. I think they're saying, better safe than sorry," said Tobias.

Northam said Thursday, "I took this action to protect Virginians from credible threats of violence. These threats are real." Earlier this week, the FBI arrested three men in Maryland and Delaware who are alleged white nationalists or neo-Nazis and who discussed plans to head to Richmond armed with guns.

Northam issued the temporary ban on firearms and other weapons in advance of the rally organized by the VCDL to protest gun control legislation Democratic lawmakers are proposing.


that was not unexpected at all.
 
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From what I hear, protestors would be in a fenced off area with only one entry/exit present.

This has all the makings of another deliberately planned Charlottesville type scenario with hoped for violence.
No thanks.

For those of you going, I wonder if it would be better to protest outside the fencing and refuse to enter.


I’ll be there, but no way in hell will I go into the fenced area.




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I posted this in most of the facebook groups I belong to today.
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Show up and be armed, stay outside the fence. Show Northam and Bloomberg that we won't go into his cage, show them we won't be disarmed! Show Northam and Bloomberg, we will not be walking into his box cars


We will be driving in and taking a shuttle. we shall see how it goes.
 
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No fences for moi



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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lbj:
For those of you going, I wonder if it would be better to protest outside the fencing and refuse to enter.


This is the plan my coworkers who are going have discussed. No flippin' way we're going into that pen.


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Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
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No fences for moi


Jeez, no joke there.
 
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Originally posted by lbj:
From what I hear, protestors would be in a fenced off area with only one entry/exit present.

This has all the makings of another deliberately planned Charlottesville type scenario with hoped for violence.
No thanks.

For those of you going, I wonder if it would be better to protest outside the fencing and refuse to enter.


I’ll be there, but no way in hell will I go into the fenced area.


Same here. No fucking way.

King Ralph's dual attack on 1A & 2A in one proclamation.

I will try to meet up with you there. I plan on emailing the few people I've corresponded with to see if we can find somewhere to meet up. If SHTF best to be with a group.



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Seriously? They want to corral everyone into a pen? How about we try that the other way around? Eh, Mr. Blackface?


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For those of you going, I wonder if it would be better to protest outside the fencing and refuse to enter.


This is the plan my coworkers who are going have discussed. No flippin' way we're going into that pen.


Yep, and the leftists local governments let the Occupy, BLM, Antifa, and other leftist groups run wild in the streets.

Another example of Democrat control, they can't fuckin'help themselves.



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I am kinda bummed. My friends have all backed out. I could drive but we were all going to ride together.



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Redstone: can you and wcb6092 get in touch with one another?




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ok...just saw this and it's hysterical

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I am kinda bummed. My friends have all backed out. I could drive but we were all going to ride together.


Look at one of the busses or carpool deals VCDL has listed. I’m taking one of the out of Ashland.




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Post someone up at the entrance to this travesty to tell everyone not to enter the trap- protest outside the fence.




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Were I there, I'd place a sign on the fence that read, 'Arbeit Macht Frei'



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I am kinda bummed. My friends have all backed out. I could drive but we were all going to ride together.


Look at one of the busses or carpool deals VCDL has listed. I’m taking one of the out of Ashland.


I did I was able to get one of the last seats out of Lynchburg.



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I can’t stand or walk for very long so I’m going to be the designated driver. I’ll drop my buddies near the rally and be on call to respond for rapid egress. Also let’s us have a base to store stuff if we need to

I’ll be standing with you guys in spirit at least


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Alert that VCDL put out last night:


IMPORTANT REQUEST: We need 10,000 patriots to fill the Capitol grounds for Monday's rally!

Unfortunately, the Virginia Supreme Court just said they did not have enough information on the stay denied by the lower court to issue their own stay, so the Governor's illegal gun-ban on Capitol grounds is going to stand for this event.

Here is what we need to do on Monday to make the rally a success:

DETAILS:

VCDL needs at least 10,000 members/gun owners to commit to "taking one for the team'" by entering the Capitol grounds unarmed around 10 am and being in place for the rally by 10:45 am. Those who were lobbying will already be unarmed, so we urge them to be part of the 10,000 inside the fencing. NOTE: knives with folding metal blades less than 3-inches long are ARE permitted both in the General Assembly AND on the Capitol grounds.
For every one gun owner on the Capitol grounds, we need another two to five people outside the Capitol grounds's fence on 9th Street. Those doing so can be legally armed.

If you can commit to being one of our needed 10,000 unarmed members inside the fence, please help us by asking several of your family and friends to be your designated armed escort to the gates and to stand outside the fenced area to watch over us.

WHY:

We are separating our responsibilities, in this otherwise untenable and unconstitutional situation foisted on gun owners by Northam. Gun owners standing, both inside and outside of the fence, ensure that the Capitol grounds and the surrounding area is filled to capacity to hear our speakers and it will make a great visual for the cameras!

For those who are going to be on the Capitol grounds, the less items you bring along, the quicker and more efficient the screening.

VCDL will have loudspeakers so that those outside the fence will be able to hear. The event will also be broadcast live on WRVA radio, 1140 AM /96.1 FM.

IMPORTANT:

We ask everyone to follow the temporary Capitol grounds rules. There is NO need for an act of civil disobedience to achieve standing for a court fight. We already have standing.

We still will have our day in court to fully debate the governor's unconstitutional overreach in just a few short weeks.

Thank you very much for your support and understanding. The Governor and his cronies would like nothing better than to see the Capitol grounds empty, with the speakers talking only to themselves. We simply cannot let that happen.

PLEASE CHOOSE ONE:


Arrive temporarily UNARMED and go INSIDE the fenced area on the Capitol grounds or
Stand with us, LEGALLY ARMED if you so choose, just OUTSIDE the fence and watch over your brothers and sisters inside the fence

Either way, we'll see you there!

FINAL NOTE:

Monday is going to be a day of lobbying, with a peaceful rally. All law-abiding citizens are invited. The Capitol, State, and Richmond police forces will be providing strong security. We thank them in advance for helping make sue that the event is a safe and fun event.

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I think they're being set up



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