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I am an Article IV Free Inhabitant Meat Popsicle...

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September 10, 2019, 10:49 PM
parabellum
I am an Article IV Free Inhabitant Meat Popsicle...
...and I am not posting this video. I am transmitting it, which is my right to do so. Do you know the law? Can I speak to your supervisor, and maybe someone who does roadside glass replacement for automobiles?

And maybe bail bondsman



I love/despise these batshit little Perry Masonettes!
September 10, 2019, 11:10 PM
Beancooker
14 minutes. They put up with and tolerated this mouthbreather for 14 minutes.
I’ll give it to them. They have the patience of a chopping block.
I would have smashed out the window at the two minute mark when this 2 digit IQ derelict refused to comply with the law.

It was a simple seatbelt ticket. What a fucksock.




quote:
Balzé Halzé:
now I see that you're about as bright as a black hole, and twice as dense. Good lord.
The “lol” thread
September 10, 2019, 11:16 PM
Rightwire
I am not reading your post or watching the video, I am simply allowing information to convey to me in my free transit of the interwebs.




343 - Never Forget

Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat

There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive.
September 10, 2019, 11:17 PM
RHINOWSO
Ah, he made the mistake of creating creating joinder.

Rookie mistake.
September 10, 2019, 11:20 PM
2012BOSS302
That's a lot of city resources that asshole is wasting. They should charge him an extra fine. You bet your ass you aren't going anywhere, just keep eating the pavement.




Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless.
September 11, 2019, 01:03 AM
furlough
Impressed with the patience of these LEOs.

Well done, but that guy was an asshat.




This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector.
Plato
September 11, 2019, 05:27 AM
gearhounds
I’ve been lucky enough not to have encountered one of these jackholes since they seem to have multiplied out of control. With every window punch and face plant, you’d think they’d get the hint that cops are not just going to suddenly start letting them drive off.




"Live every day as if it's going to be your last, and one day, you'll be right.”
Malachy McCourt
September 11, 2019, 05:36 AM
Augen
Oh my.
It’s amazing to hear him recite things off his secondary phone that he believes are relevant.
Back to the old- you can give a man an education but you can’t make him think.

And yes big kudos to the officers patience.
September 11, 2019, 07:40 AM
Patrick-SP2022
I really wonder how people get hooked into this sovereign citizen stuff.
Are there radio or TV commercials telling the listener to "Text 'JOINDER' to 12345 for a free information kit."



And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
September 11, 2019, 07:46 AM
sigfreund
All right: ’Splain car windows to me now.

The last time I looked, side windows in this century were made with tempered glass that disintegrated at a touch of a punch or other breaker. I was amazed to see that car’s window take multiple hits from that (Halligan?) tool before any visible damage and then it folded down as if laminated. Is that how they’re all made now, or is a Toyota the vehicle to have if you’re a Sovereign Citizen and don’t want to be dragged out of your car during a traffic stop?




“The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”
— Bertrand Russell
September 11, 2019, 07:55 AM
Rover88
Back when I sold law books, I had a group of these folks in my territory. They kept trying to "educate" me, but I honestly never understood their position. They spent a LOT of money on books. My regional manager damned near had a stroke when he heard they paid in $100 bills for a set of Am Jur! (Expensive legal encyclopedia)
September 11, 2019, 08:01 AM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
All right: ’Splain car windows to me now.

The last time I looked, side windows in this century were made with tempered glass that disintegrated at a touch of a punch or other breaker. I was amazed to see that car’s window take multiple hits from that (Halligan?) tool before any visible damage and then it folded down as if laminated. Is that how they’re all made now, or is a Toyota the vehicle to have if you’re a Sovereign Citizen and don’t want to be dragged out of your car during a traffic stop?


Safety glass is quite strong stuff, but tricky as well. I’ve seen it break with the lightest touch from a striker, and we’ve all seen vids like this one where the Samsonite gorilla would seem to have difficulty.

As to the laminate, aftermarket tinted lamination looks just like that when it caves in. I wouldn’t rule out these nut jobs laminating their windows solely to keep from getting a glass shower for what they know is coming eventually. This seems to be the case here as this particular guy sure kept his composure throughout the drag-and-cuff.




"Live every day as if it's going to be your last, and one day, you'll be right.”
Malachy McCourt
September 11, 2019, 08:06 AM
Beancooker
Sigfreund, most side glass is not laminated. The high end Mercedes and BMW's laminate their side glass, but it looks very different.
It appears he had a stock tint film on the window. Doesn’t add much stability. More manufacturers are changing over, and laminating side glass though.

Newer windows are much harder to break. Some if it has to do with the curvature of the glass. If the window is partially open, easy to break. Rolled up and sealed shut, they are more difficult than a 67 Dodge Dart with flat glass.

A small piece of a broken spark plug (the white ceramic) tossed at the window, will spiderweb the thing in a flash.

I also think the fireman was being nice, and not trying to injure the dummy with flying glass, or a halligan that went too far through the opening.




quote:
Balzé Halzé:
now I see that you're about as bright as a black hole, and twice as dense. Good lord.
The “lol” thread
September 11, 2019, 08:09 AM
joel9507
Another one bites the dust pavement. Smile

Who gains from this? Is there someone making money befuddling these dolts?

From a pragmatic standpoint, what could the leaders of those people offer up as evidence to prospective new 'sovereigns' to suggest that approach has ever yielded results?

Or is that movement like the Nigerian email scams, where the appeal is made so illogical that only those completely without logic engage? That is, maybe the deal is to attract the clueless so as to make the scam easier to pull off.

Hats off to the polite, patient LEOs.
September 11, 2019, 08:17 AM
airsoft guy
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Ah, he made the mistake of creating creating joinder.

Rookie mistake.


The way these guys talk, I cannot tell if you used the word "creating" twice on accident, or on purpose.



quote:
Originally posted by Will938:
If you don't become a screen writer for comedy movies, then you're an asshole.
September 11, 2019, 08:18 AM
Beancooker
Okay, after rewatching the video, yes, he had security film or a thick tint like Huper Optik. That was not factory tint. I was incorrect in saying it was factory tint.

One thing to point out, there is a big difference between tint, security film and a laminated side window.

Tint will sort of hold the glass when it shatters.
Security film will do what you see there, or if it’s very good film, it’ll do a lot more than that.
Laminated glass is exactly like your windshield. It is a piece of plastic laminated between two sheets of glass. This is not an aftermarket option. It is really nice to have though. I had a Mercedes with it, and it was incredibly quiet inside.




quote:
Balzé Halzé:
now I see that you're about as bright as a black hole, and twice as dense. Good lord.
The “lol” thread
September 11, 2019, 08:51 AM
scsigs
That was first and mostly likely the last time he will do that
September 11, 2019, 08:55 AM
Rightwire
Play stupid games.......




343 - Never Forget

Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat

There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive.
September 11, 2019, 09:10 AM
Eponym
I saw at least 5 cop cars and 1 fire vehicle. That's a lot of resources to waste on one idiot.

How many requests and warnings is an officer required to give before taking more effective action? I lost count. I think two should be sufficient.
September 11, 2019, 09:13 AM
sreding
Once the EMS/Fire Dept guys rolled up I was so hoping that they'd get out that giant spreader tool, jab it in the door crack and pop that door open like a crab.




I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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