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Claying your glass will do the same thing.
 
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Claying your glass will do the same thing.


Yeah, but the clay bar kits aint cheap. I use the IMAR product on yacht windows that are $2500-5000 each.... (large windows), one bottle does A LOT of them, it's easy to work with and made just for glass.
 
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Another vote for Zaino...The first time I applied it to my S4, it literally stopped my neighbor in his tracks when he saw the car.


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I've been using More Shine Less Time on my tires for 15 years and the other Stoner products are good too.

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I had different black cars for about 10 years in a row (BMW, and two Infinitis). Listen to the advice here: get a good procedure and cloth and tools in place, and the actual product will not make a significant, visible difference, in my opinion. I sectioned off the car in about 6 places, and tried Zymol, exotics, all at the same time, so they would be exposed to the same elements. I rarely, if ever, saw a noticeable difference shine, in depth of shine, etc. Some did lose beading faster than others, but that was about it.
 
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Claying your glass will do the same thing.


Yeah, but the clay bar kits aint cheap. I use the IMAR product on yacht windows that are $2500-5000 each.... (large windows), one bottle does A LOT of them, it's easy to work with and made just for glass.


I understand what you are getting at. I preferred to use 1z einzett Glass. Let me put this in perspective though. First time or newer detailer applies as much glas polish as they usually do. It ends up on the paint of the car. They would be chaising swirls for days. A 20 dollar bar of clay, cut into 1/8 size that is no longer used on paint but kept in its own container is not all that expensive of a safety cost.
 
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I hope the OP doesn't mine me jumping in, if so I can delete and start my own thread. I have a question about tire shine products. What does everyone use and how are you applying it? I always get streaks or inconsistency in the finish.

Any guidance is appreciated.




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Zaino...
This is the one answer that always tends to annoy. First, a disclaimer. I've used Zaino in the past and am very familiar with it, and it is an excellent product. That said, it is 'not' the answer to every detailing inquiry on the planet. We have an almost endless number of terrific detailing products available to us today, offering each of us the opportunity to find the right personal solution that balances price, ease of application/removal, durability, and shine. Until you have a very good understanding of the commitment of the vehicle owner to the process, and the depth of their pocketbook, any product suggestions are fruitless.


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How do you get the glass to that level of amazing? Wow.
Here's a great tutorial, and a very similar process to the one I use. Only differences for me is that 1) I do not use Rain X (I use the same sealant I use on the paint), and 2) many times I will wipe down the windshield (inside and out) with IPA to remove all the gunk that gets on it before I get down to cleaning. IPA also removes wax and most sealant products, so keep it away from the paint.



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I hope the OP doesn't mine me jumping in, if so I can delete and start my own thread. I have a question about tire shine products. What does everyone use and how are you applying it? I always get streaks or inconsistency in the finish.

Any guidance is appreciated.
The list of products I've experimented with over the years is long. To date, I have found nothing better than TURTLE WAX® JET BLACK™ BLACK ENDURA-SHINE TIRE COAT KIT. That's right, Turtle Wax. Its the only Turtle Wax product I've ever used and would recommend. Its not a simple spray on product as there are a couple steps involved. But if you follow the simple application process, you'll end up with great looking tires that will look that way for a long time. And best of all, the stuff is readily available at auto parts or big box stores for not a lot of coin.


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IPA also removes wax and most sealant products, so keep it away from the paint.


For those that don't know, like myself until I googled it, IPA is not beer. At least not when it comes to cleaning your windows. Isopropyl alcohol. They are not interchangeable.
 
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I hope the OP doesn't mine me jumping in, if so I can delete and start my own thread. I have a question about tire shine products. What does everyone use and how are you applying it? I always get streaks or inconsistency in the finish.

Any guidance is appreciated.
The list of products I've experimented with over the years is long. To date, I have found nothing better than TURTLE WAX® JET BLACK™ BLACK ENDURA-SHINE TIRE COAT KIT. That's right, Turtle Wax. Its the only Turtle Wax product I've ever used and would recommend. Its not a simple spray on product as there are a couple steps involved. But if you follow the simple application process, you'll end up with great looking tires that will look that way for a long time. And best of all, the stuff is readily available at auto parts or big box stores for not a lot of coin.

Whatever your method of cleaning....I follow with aerospace 303 UV inhibitor. I've been using it on ALL tires, and it prevents weather checking. Some of the aviation tires I maintain cost $2-5K each. Especially the larger bush tires. Protecting them is important. Since it's cheap, I use it on my automobiles and motorcycles as well.


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I used Zaino for around 12 years and it is a great product, surface prep and paint correction is the key as with any last step product, an alternative to a claybar is Nanoskin Autoscrub, makes the process alot faster.

I wanted to try something different and ended up ordered a Blackfire swirl kit from Autogeek, it came with two levels of swirl mark remover and then the Blackfire Wet Diamond protectant.

Part of the reason I wanted to try something different was Zaino seems to give great shine but not the depth of a carnauba which Blackfire was supposed to do, the protection and durability of Zaino but with more depth.

 
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What was your conclusion on the Blackfire?

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Durability I can't say yet but I like that I could apply it with my Griots random orbit to speed up the process.

It seemed to dry as fast as Zaino did and it just wipes off with no buffing at all.

The surface seems to feel more slick than it did after Zaino and it does seem to have more depth, but that could just be a placebo effect Smile
 
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Blackfire is simply amazing.

I used to use it on my black Mustang convertible. It won every car show I ever put it in, including some large indoor shows with people who paid to get in and look at the cars..

It was a very involved process, couple days of work start to finish for the whole system. Their aerosol carnauba wax detail spray is my favorite thing ever for quick touch ups.
 
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I hope the OP doesn't mine me jumping in, if so I can delete and start my own thread. I have a question about tire shine products. What does everyone use and how are you applying it? I always get streaks or inconsistency in the finish.

Any guidance is appreciated.
The list of products I've experimented with over the years is long. To date, I have found nothing better than TURTLE WAX® JET BLACK™ BLACK ENDURA-SHINE TIRE COAT KIT. That's right, Turtle Wax. Its the only Turtle Wax product I've ever used and would recommend. Its not a simple spray on product as there are a couple steps involved. But if you follow the simple application process, you'll end up with great looking tires that will look that way for a long time. And best of all, the stuff is readily available at auto parts or big box stores for not a lot of coin.

Whatever your method of cleaning....I follow with aerospace 303 UV inhibitor. I've been using it on ALL tires, and it prevents weather checking. Some of the aviation tires I maintain cost $2-5K each. Especially the larger bush tires. Protecting them is important. Since it's cheap, I use it on my automobiles and motorcycles as well.
Yep, another terrific product. Just remember, it does a great job, but you'll need to reapply it frequently as it does not have months worth of staying power, especially in inclement weather conditions (sorry, that sounded kinda like a Viagra commercial). Smile


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For those who have not made the leap yet, and really dig detailing vehicles, buy a good dual action polisher and pads, and learn how to use it properly. These things have really become user friendly, and can effectively do a great deal of paint correction that just can't be accomplished by hand. They increase your capabilities, shorten the time you have to commit to the process, and can really offer the user a show car quality finish. I have two DA's (and my old Makita rotary), and use them a few times throughout the year to handle any corrective work that is needed. Autogeek has a great overview of these machines on their website. Check it out if you're interested.

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For those who have not made the leap yet, and really dig detailing vehicles, buy a good dual action polisher and pads, and learn how to use it properly. These things have really become user friendly, and can effectively do a great deal of paint correction that just can't be accomplished by hand. They increase your capabilities, shorten the time you have to commit to the process, and can really offer the user a show car quality finish. I have two DA's (and my old Makita rotary), and use them a few times throughout the year to handle any corrective work that is needed. Autogeek has a great overview of these machines on their website. Check it out if you're interested.


THIS.

I have kept my personal vehicles, bikes, my State cop cars, even my Kubota Ranch tractor clean and polished for years.

But until I bought a good dual action polisher did I really enjoy the process. As well as get better results.

I went with a RUPES. It's an entire system. Color coded pads and polishes. Tough to screw anything up.

There are dozens of Detailing sites and blogs too. Lots of sources for information. Like the AMMO NYC video above. He does a great site with a lot of info.

Good thread.
 
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^^^^ This ^^^^ When I was doing my own detailing I did the research to find the best polisher for me and chose a Rupes from Auto Geek. Since I can no longer physically do the detailing chores anymore I sold it to forum member Tommydogg who says it works pretty well. I sold it brand new unused. Rupes seemed to be a pretty good machine from what I looked over. Shame I could never use it.


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