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Originally posted by pulicords:
Respect for this officer, his wounded partner and others "just doing their job" shouldn't predicated on the need for a flagged draped casket.

+1

And to all you folks calling for blood, y'all should calm down a bit and think about what you're saying.

I believe that the perps should pay with their lives for the murder of this police officer. Just like they should pay with their lives for the murder of Jane or John Doe.

But it should be done the right way. Is it honoring the memory of a Police Officer, a man who spent his life (presumably) in the pursuit of Justice, to call for revenge killing in the absence of a judge and jury?

RIP
I hope they catch those perps soon.

That sucks and it is always terrible to hear these things. So as far as I can tell, there was no cause for this? The training officer and trainee were just driving a long when a punk pulled up and started shooting?

I saw someone post that it sounded like a gang initiation, anyone actually hear this from news outlets? I can't imagine what would cause someone to just randomly pull up next to a police office and start shooting. I hope they catch the POS and due the officer justice.

What a tragedy. I can only hope for the best for his loved ones, as well as the other officer involved.

And here I was putting off getting my concealed permit... oh no, the PNW is a perfectly safe place, no rush...

Needless to say, I'll be going in as soon as I'm able.

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Originally posted by hunter62:
That sucks and it is always terrible to hear these things. So as far as I can tell, there was no cause for this? The training officer and trainee were just driving a long when a punk pulled up and started shooting?

While the information being released is still sketchy, it appears that the officers were either conducting a traffic stop on an uninvolved vehicle or had just completed one, when the suspect(s) pulled alongside the officers and opened fire. Until suspects are arrested and additional information is provided, the motives for the attack aren't known. It's speculation at this point to believe there's even a gang connection.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and your prayers, we're all still really messed up about this.

More information is hitting the mainstream media as we speak, and they're doing an admirable job stirring up the pot and contributing to an almost rabid atmosphere of speculation. The neighborhood blogs are doing a much better job of reporting.

I'm still stuck in my angry/helpless phase of grief, I think most of us are, but nearly as badly as Ofc. Brenton's squad on third watch; please keep them in your thoughts and prayers as much as Ofcrs. Brenton and Sweeney.

I hope to be able to post some good news in the near future. Until then, we just have to hold the line and keep ourselves frosty.

RIP brother

Words can't express how I feel for the officer's family and friends.

You will all be in my thoughts.

RIP

What it does appear to be is the random assasination of the LEO. While everything is speculation until the perp(s) are caught, I've wondered why we haven't seen more of this.

To this point most police shootings have the results of the LEOs involved interupting some sort of activity and/or attempting to make arrests (MV stops, etc), I thought it was only a matter of time until the gangs decided to try to take on law enforcement directly. This attack could be in this vein.

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Originally posted by pulicords:

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Originally posted by hunter62:
That sucks and it is always terrible to hear these things. So as far as I can tell, there was no cause for this? The training officer and trainee were just driving a long when a punk pulled up and started shooting?

While the information being released is still sketchy, it appears that the officers were either conducting a traffic stop on an uninvolved vehicle or had just completed one, when the suspect(s) pulled alongside the officers and opened fire. Until suspects are arrested and additional information is provided, the motives for the attack aren't known. It's speculation at this point to believe there's even a gang connection.

Sincerely sorry to hear of another officer lost in the line of duty.

I have a friend in East Precinct, and saw his posts on Facebook, and had to go to the Seattle Times website to see what happened. I can only hope that the criminals are brought to justice swiftly.

Update:

Suspect shot by police

RIP Brother, Thoughts and prayers to his family and the new officer.

Una Stamus

According to this article from the Seattle Times, the alleged shooter was a proponent of "jury nullification" a wannabe law student and recently "laid off" security guard. It looks like he decided to take his anti-police/anti-government actions to the "next level." From "jury nullification" to outright attacks.

"Law-enforcement sources said Monfort also is suspected of the Oct. 22 bombing and arson of a Seattle maintenance yard, where three police cars and an RV used as a mobile precinct were damaged. Before Monfort was identified, police found distinct evidence that leads them to believe the same person was involved in that crime and the Brenton shooting, sources said. A note threatening to kill police officers was left at the bombing site, according to sources. One source described the note as containing a general threat against police officers. News reports at the time said fliers were left at the maintenance yard referring to an anti-police-brutality rally and citing the case of a King County sheriff's deputy accused of assaulting a teenage girl in a SeaTac holding cell."

"Monfort received a bachelor's degree from the UW in March 2008, according to the university's degree-validation Web site. His major was in Law, Societies and Justice. Last year, Monfort belonged to the McNair Scholars Program, part of the university's office of Minority Affairs and Diversity. The program aims to steep undergraduate students in sophisticated research, preparing them for graduate work. Monfort provided this title for his project with the McNair program: "The Power of Citizenship Your Government Doesn't Want You to Know About: How to Change the Inequity of the Criminal Justice System Immediately, Through Active Citizen Nullification of Laws, As a Juror."

In an abstract of his project, Monfort said he planned to "illuminate and further" the scholarship of Paul Butler, a law professor at George Washington University. Butler is a proponent of jury nullification, a controversial principle whereby jurors feel free to disregard a judge's instructions and acquit a defendant no matter the strength of the evidence. Butler has argued that such nullification may be particularly appropriate in cases where black defendants are charged with nonviolent crimes. "It is the moral responsibility of black jurors to emancipate some guilty black outlaws," Butler wrote in a 1995 Yale Law Journal article, adding: "My goal is the subversion of American criminal justice, at least as it now exists."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...1236_suspect07m.html

RIP brother.

Pretty crazy turn of events, the information keeps spilling out. The shots fired call and tones came out over the radio just as we were leaving the memorial.

We're all absolutely exhausted; several of us have been pulling extra shifts to cover for Ofc. Brenton's squad so they can stay home, be with each other, and grieve.

The memorial was one of the hardest ones I've been to, thank you SF for all of your support.

Updated links are forthcoming.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/69476452.html



Story Updated: Nov 7, 2009 at 12:53 PM PST

By KOMO Staff and News Sources

SEATTLE - The suspect in the shooting death of a Seattle police officer was "a lone domestic terrorist" whose apartment was a virtual arsenal of bomb-making materials and weaponry, Seattle Assistant Police Chief Jim Pugel said Saturday.

There also is evidence that the suspect, Christopher M. Monfort, 41, of Tukwila may have been planning to escalate his activities in the coming days if he had not been caught, Pugel said.

Monfort was shot Friday afternoon when detectives approached him at his apartment complex for questioning about the fatal Halloween night shooting of Seattle Police Officer Timothy Brenton.

He now is in serious condition with gunshot wounds at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.

Investigators who later searched his apartment found weapons, a huge stash of ammunition, bomb-making materials and newspaper clippings about an Oct. 22 arson that officers believe he was involved in.

Among the weapons were two long rifles, including a military-style assault rifle, Pugel said at a Saturday afternoon news conference about the case.

He said Monfort was approached by police after detectives received a tip at about 10 or 11 a.m. Friday that someone who owned a Datsun 210 of the type police were seeking lived at the Tukwila apartment complex.

At about 3 p.m., detectives and a team of other officers were about to confront the man believed to be the owner of the Datsun.

"They (the detectives) engaged him in a quick question. He immediately pulled the gun, pointed it at one of the detectives, and the report is that he pulled the trigger, it did not go off," Pugel said.

"Officers drew their guns at the same time. The suspect, Mr. Montford, ran up the stairs, turned around again. And then, as he turned, with the firearm pointed at the detectives, they shot him."

Pugel said detectives found a piece of evidence at the scene of Officer Brenton's shooting that ties Monfort back to the Oct. 22 arson of four police vehicles, three police cruisers and one mobile command vehicle. He declined to specify that exact natire of the evidence.

In addition, Pugel said, there have been reports of loud explosions in the area around Monfort's apartment complex in the past three months.

Those blasts may have been experiments by Monfort and may indicate that he planned a larger-scale terrorist action, Pugel said.

He said police still want tips from people in the neighborhood who may have information or recollections about the explosions and where they occurred.

Pugel said Monfort was formerly employed as a security guard, but lost the job at some point. Detectives now are checking to see if he ever applied for a job as a police officer.

Police still have not looked at Monfort's two cars - a Ford Crown Victoria similar to a police cruiser and another vehicle, covered by a tarp, which may be the Datsun 210 used in Officer Brenton's shooting.

Both of the vehicles have been removed from the apartment complex parking lot and taken to a secure area.

According to at least one source ( http://blogs.seattleweekly.com...ly/crime_punishment/ ) he was a disillusioned LAPD reject. Hard to believe, but here's a guy who knew he'd make a great cop (with nothing to back it up), failed in his attempt(s) to become one (couldn't pass the psychological exam?), and responded to that rejection with a bitterness that apparently reached homicidal proportions. Since he couldn't be a cop, his next best thing was to attack policing as a profession, figuratively and literally.

"Posted today at 11:36 am by Caleb Hannan UPDATE: Police searching Monfort's Tukwila apartment this morning found weapons and bomb-making material.

Thanks to the hard work of reporters at the Seattle Times and P-I, we now know a lot more about Christopher Monfort, the 41-year-old Tukwila man suspected of killing Officer Timothy Brenton on Halloween night. And the more we learn, the more Monfort lines up with the profile provided by Seattle police on Thursday: a man who both acts like, and admires, the police officer he gunned down. The paper-trail left behind by Monfort suggests a man whose idealism may have soured over time into disillusionment. Rosemary Stevens rented a room to Monfort 18 years ago in Pasadena. The actress tells the P-I that while he was working as a waiter in a steakhouse, Monfort's dream was to wear a badge for the L.A.P.D."

It's sad to see anybody's life cut so short for such a senseless reason.

I'm glad that this guy will no longer be able to menance society, and I feel for the family, friends, and coworkers that must deal with the loss of this officer.

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Hard to believe, but here's a guy who knew he'd make a great cop (with nothing to back it up)

Still stuck on that huh?

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
It's sad to see anybody's life cut so short for such a senseless reason.

I'm glad that this guy will no longer be able to menance society, and I feel for the family, friends, and coworkers that must deal with the loss of this officer.

quote:

Hard to believe, but here's a guy who knew he'd make a great cop (with nothing to back it up)

Still stuck on that huh?

Just because there are some similarities, doesn't mean it's always about: You-you-you-you-you-you-you-you (But why try and explain that to a narcissist? )

I'm glad they caught him.