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Good. Even named the district attorney as a defendant. Girls and women who falsely claim sexual assault against anyone NEED to be sued.
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As far as I’m concerned, the girls should go to jail. But, T.F. Goes to a party where the “mean girls are, and they invited him? That’s letting the little head do the thinking. P226 9mm CT Springfield custom 1911 hardball Glock 21 Les Baer Special Tactical AR-15 | |||
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Much easier to say when you're not a teen-ager. | |||
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thin skin can't win |
This seems perfectly reasonable, and broadly applied would reduce skepticism at some of the claims overall. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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If the suit is successful, it could decimate the Young Democrats Club at their high school. | |||
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| Leatherneck |
Girls who lie about sexual assault should get the same sentence a man convicted of sexual assault would get. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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There are few things more dangerous than an adolescent girl. Most people who are uninformed or naive cannot believe that a woman (or girl) would make a false allegation of rape. I saw false allegations with various motivations enough in my career to be highly suspicious of such claims until we found hard evidence. We spent a huge amount of time investigating non-sexual assaults in the military, which was so counter-productive because it takes investigative resources away from the real assaults. Made up allegations generally do not ring true, but some can be really convincing. Any experienced sex crimes investigator or prosecutor understands this. What has always troubled me is how a woman could do such a thing knowing the horrible consequences to the person accused. There has to be an element of mental illness and/or immaturity for them to do such a thing. Normally the case falls apart under scrutiny, unless the allegations are pumped up by the media. We have seen it play out in the Kavanaugh debacle and we will continue to see it until culturally we come to grips with the fact that such allegations require vigorous scrutiny. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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| Freethinker |
I spent five years in Germany in Army CID. During that time I estimate that my office handled about one rape (not just indecent sexual assault) complaint per month, or probably 60 complaints during my time there. Of the complaints we received about half were ultimately determined to be unfounded. By “unfounded,” I mean the complaint was objectively determined to the level of probable cause to be false/not true/made up. It did not mean that we couldn’t identify the perpetrator; our solve rate for rape was very high, and that happened only a very few times. And this was long before the “pound me too” movement, so the false complaints were prompted by the traditional motives: jealousy, getting caught by husbands having affairs, revenge for a slight, etc., and not some bandwagon effect. Rape and other sexual assaults are real and occur far too frequently, but so are false complaints of such incidents. That’s one of the reasons why law enforcement investigators must treat them so cautiously. They have criteria that they use to evaluate the likely legitimacy of such reports, and a “fresh complaint” is one of them. When women are raped or assaulted, they are hurt and outraged right now, not decades after the fact, and unless they are somehow incapacitated, they remember every horrifying detail. I investigated my last rape case well over 30 years ago, and I still have vivid memories of things I was only told by the victims, not to mention the haunting details of what I saw. “Believe the women” merely because they are women is a ridiculous demand, and just one more symptom of a diseased society. And as someone mentioned in a related thread, it’s not only men who are harmed by false sexual assault complaints. The actual women victims of such crimes should be furious as well because it’s the demonstrably false complaints that cause the real ones to be doubted. ► 6.4/93.6 “Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” — Plato | |||
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My experience is very similar with the following ratios: 5 out of 10 are false/unfounded, 3 out of 10 are "she said/he said" with not enough evidence to go either way, 2 out of 10 are are actual provable/chargeable sexual assault with evidence to back it up. | |||
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This bears repeating. I'm sick of all this "We Believe Survivors" nonsense that has come out from the Kavanaugh 'hearings.' There needs to be a backlash against these false accusers, but we all know that won't happen. Even when caught red-handed, many such women will play victim and still get sympathy and support from 'the community.' Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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| Big Stack |
Filing a suit means nothing. It will languish in court for years, and likely get settled for go-away money, because of the huge costs of taking it to trial. If they won a jury decision, for big money I'd be more impressed. One thing I am confused about. The fifth paragraph starts "Prosecutors allege...". It's a civil suit. There are no prosecutors. Is there a criminal aspect to this? Nowhere does it say that. | |||
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Kid was held in Jail for nine days on made up BS charges. I hope he bankrupts all the families and the school district | |||
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Wait, what? |
Women have been shrieking for equality for decades. I think they absolutely deserve equality. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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You know, I never though that having ‘safe sex’ would mean having impartial witnesses, but it seems like that might be a good idea these days! Or maybe just record it so there is video evidence of continuous affirmative consent? Of course, if the video gets out you probably still get labeled a sex offender. I guess I’ll just have to tell my kids to stay home and paddle their own canoe until they get married! - Bret | |||
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There has been a war against men in this country going on for some time. This is a good example of it. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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| Political Cynic |
at a minimum, but then they should have to serve at least that sentence again as payback as I grow older, I am becoming less and less tolerant I think criminals should be treated harshly, and vengeance should be part of the decision making process on sentence - that is where the real justice takes place if we want this to stop we need to make it so very painful and utterly unappealing to anyone to want to try thats not going to happen with a $50 fine and 60 days of probation they are trying to purposely destroy someone's life - in my books they have just forfeited their own [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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I’m not one to normally advocate for such things, but going forward in this age of misandry, I think the only way for single guys who wish to engage in intercourse is in a FFM, or even perhaps a FFFM arrangement, with video and signed releases. It’s ironically “safe sex” for our time. All men should become Notarys. It would make sex safer. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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| Freethinker |
There was an interesting article in The Wall Street Journal (IIRC) some weeks ago. I didn’t read it in detail, but the author was concerned about the disinclination of modern young men to get married. And the supposed reason: the availability of pornography on the Internet, and the (somewhat vaguely referred to) substitution of masturbation for normal sexual relations with one’s prospective wife, and presumably other partners. If there is any validity to the concern/argument, I would submit that how things like the pound me too movement and earlier manifestations of the same assaults on men are at least equally responsible for their (possible) reluctance to have anything to do with live women. For most of humanity’s existence as social creatures the primary risk of sexual intercourse was the possibility of unwanted pregnancies. At many times and in many cultures that wasn’t really a risk, though, but rather, “Okay, it happened; when do you want to get married?” That’s something that the bible’s prohibition against adultery but not fornication makes clear about one ancient society. For a very long period that was the only concern until the rise of sexually transmitted diseases such as syphilis and gonorrhea. That put a little damper on things (but only a little) until the invention of “protection” in the form of condoms, and especially the invention of effective antibiotics. What really opened things up for a brief golden age of sexual freedom, however, was the invention of chemical birth control and that lasted until herpes and AIDS came along. STDs and unwanted pregnancies, however, were/are a completely different animal from the current threat to casual intimate relations. The problem for men today isn’t something that can be avoided by condoms or—really—even picking one’s partners carefully. What 17-year-old could possibly predict today that 1. he would be in line for a national office 35 years from now, and 2. that the sweet naïve thing he’s showing attention to would be able to bring his high-flying career and lifestyle crashing down by making vague and totally unsupported allegations about something that supposedly happened while everyone was drunk? Some years ago I decided that given the chance to live my life over again I would have never entered into a relationship that would give someone the ability to change my life forever (and prohibit me from ever owning guns among other things) with a domestic violence allegation. But that would at least require a report to the police and a conviction after some sort of judicial process. What we’re seeing today doesn’t even come close to those standards. I don’t really expect the average and normal teenaged boy or young man to ignore his urges with all that in mind, but as someone else mentioned, paddling one’s own canoe rather than risking any sort of relationship with a woman—much less intimate—is sounding better and better all the time. Ladies: Are you listening? Or does a woman need a man like a fish needs a bicycle? ► 6.4/93.6 “Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” — Plato | |||
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| Leatherneck |
If the recent debacle has taught young men anything it’s probably more that they might as well not worry because even if they do avoid all sexual contact a random woman can come along 4 decades later and say you did and no matter how vague her story is or how many people refute it millions of people will believe her and jeopardize your career. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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This could create a whole new category of Defense Porn.  | |||
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