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And he's sickly and physically degenerated to boot.

His mental degeneration and physical frailty are so obvious that even his most partisan corporate media activists aren't hiding it. Alex Wagner, the blogger turned "reporter," just straight up says that all Democrats are hoping for from Biden is that he manage to simply not die, and only offer a "corporeal presence."

But the urgency of her plea indicates she thinks the odds that Biden will be able to clear this low bar are quite low.




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Yeah, but if he does then all the little donkeys will be salivating about how they'll become the power behind the befuddled old fool on the throne if they can juuust position themselves juuust right during the primary and the general election. Once again, the infighting should be a lot of fun to watch - it ain't like these people do 'discrete' or 'subtle'.

Now, how could we chum those waters a bit? Razz
 
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Once again, the infighting should be a lot of fun to watch - it ain't like these people do 'discrete' or 'subtle'.


They may not be discrete or subtle, but according to them, they are nuanced.




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Come on guys, Biden is just trying to deal with the Copacabana crisis going on right now. He doesn't have time for debates.




 
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but will they dance the Time Warp?

If not, it isn't a real horror show.



Could be a rocky one....



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He's probably on his way to Russia to train.




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but will they dance the Time Warp?

If not, it isn't a real horror show.



Could be a rocky one....


Just don't let the riff raff in.







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Once again, the infighting should be a lot of fun to watch - it ain't like these people do 'discrete' or 'subtle'.


They may not be discrete or subtle, but according to them, they are nuanced.
I suspect "discreet" instead of "discrete", but maybe not.

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Is anyone else thinking that Bernie is only hanging in there on the chance that Biden declines so rapidly that he has no choice but to step aside?


It seems to me that I'm watching a visible decline on a fairly rapid scale in Biden's cognitive abilities and overall stamina.


He looks like a confused and defeated man in that attempt at a livestream interview.
 
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Is anyone else thinking that Bernie is only hanging in there on the chance that Biden declines so rapidly that he has no choice but to step aside?

Yes.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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Huh. Under those circumstances, the fact that no one's paying any attention at all to Bernie would be..an advantage. Damn.
 
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And as a follow-through to that theory, Joe Biden is now being accused of sexual assault. Not sure if the story's got legs - it allegedly happened in 1993 and it's only being reported (at the moment) in some of the more obscure websites.

http://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle...sault-211641946.html
 
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And as a follow-through to that theory, Joe Biden is now being accused of sexual assault.
Uh oh. Sounds like ol' Dementia Joe is in for a "Mr. Happy. Loud."

 
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Corrupt Ukraine deals with his son, quid pro quo, hair smelling, daily gaffes, and a possible sexual assault. creepy joe's gonna wish he had stayed retired.
 
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Our Governor is making a good push to be his VP candidate. I'm sure he'll go looking for her in the great state of Minnesota.....




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FWIW, HuffPost has now picked up and begun running with the story. It also cites tweets naming seven women who've accused Biden of sexual assault and one woman who's accusing him of rape.

One interesting nugget - had you guys ever heard of the hashtags that are now floating to the surface? #Unendorse Biden is the tame one - there's a #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou too!

http://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/...reade-224024415.html
 
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And the air war enters a new phase. Joe Biden has brilliantly tapped into the prevailing zeitgeist; he's gonna win the primary by turning into a talk show host. An excerpt follows, which should be enough to get you howling with laughter.

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Biden Debuts Podcast In His Virtual Campaign For President
Marianna Sotomayor, NBC News, March 30, 2020

Former Vice President Joe Biden took his virtual presidential campaign to the next level Monday when he launched a podcast as the coronavirus forces him to get creative in reaching voters otherwise distracted by a global pandemic.

The podcast "Here's The Deal" is intended to provide listeners "a voice of clarity during uncertain times" by delving into pressing subjects affecting Americans' day-to-day lives in conversations between Biden and "national top experts", according to a description of the podcast shown to NBC News.

"Hey, Team Biden. It's Joe, and I'm sitting in Wilmington, Delaware," Biden says at the top of the debut podcast. "It's a scary time, people are confused, things are changing every day, every hour so I wanted to have this conversation with you now if we could."

The title plays on one of Biden's favorite phrases he uses before launching into an explanation about a subject he wants people to understand.

In the 20-minute episode recorded last Tuesday, Biden interviews his former chief of staff, Ron Klain, who also served as the Obama Administration's Ebola czar, on how President Donald Trump should be handling the pandemic that has killed more than 2,000 people in the U.S.

Full text at http://www.yahoo.com/news/bide...paign-052136961.html

Uh-huh. A "voice of clarity", in the person of the candidate who's jumbled up his words more than all of the other candidates put together. "National top experts", including his former campaign manager who somehow went completely and utterly unnoticed as Obama's Ebola czar. You know, I'm not sure that "creative" is really the word for all this given the way Biden has been completely eclipsed by Trump in the media.

Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders will be the featured guest when "Late Night With Seth Meyers" returns to the airwaves on Monday night. He has to share the billing, and he won't get twenty minutes to himself, but, given his and Uncah Joe's tendency to ramble and repeat themselves that might actually be an advantage.

http://www.upi.com/Entertainme...rview/4531585583808/
 
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The visual imagery ... don't you poke your eye out with the pen Joe!
Bernie! Bernie, where you going?



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And now the Dems are publicly complaining that dat virus has put Trump in the catbird seat. Long, but liberally sprinkled with Democrat tears.

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How Coronavirus Blew Up The Plan To Take Down Trump
David Siders, Politico, 3/31/2020

For many Democrats, it's the election of a lifetime. Yet the question preoccupying the party for several days this month was whether their presumptive presidential nominee, Joe Biden, could get the webcast working in his rec room. It was a telling obsession, one that revealed the extent of the party's anxiety as it comes to a nail-biting conclusion: Despite all the arguments Democrats have crafted and all the evidence they have amassed against Donald Trump, his reelection is likely to rise or fall on his handling of the coronavirus crisis and its fallout alone.

"It's the most dramatic example I can think of in my lifetime about how you cannot control the agenda," said Les Francis, a Democrat strategist and former deputy White House chief of staff in the Carter administration. "If life were fair," he said, Trump would already be paying a price for his chaotic handling of the pandemic. Instead, the president's approval rating has not taken a hit, and the dominant images are of him "at the podium of the White House, quote, in charge," Francis said. "If those stick and they're not countered effectively, he could get reelected."

The effect of the coronavirus on Trump's popularity will not become clear for weeks or months. But the pandemic's impact on the Democratic Party has already been severe. Primary elections are being postponed, allowing Bernie Sanders to linger in the race and delay until June the ability of Biden to mathematically clinch the nomination and fully turn his focus to Trump. The public's unbreakable focus on the virus is narrowing the range of issues on which Democrats can effectively draw contrasts with Trump - temporarily sidelining a broader agenda involving once-pressing issues such as climate change and gun control.

"It was always going to be a referendum on Trump*," said Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor who ran unsuccessfully for president in 2004. "But the referendum was going to be about things like climate change and how you want to reform health care and all these other things. Now it's only going to be about this one thing - whether Trump is competent and sane.** Trump, he said, is "a deeply disturbed narcissist who is incapable of being a leader, and that's what the referendum is going to be on.

Most Democratic strategists believe, like Dean, that Trump's reelection prospects will be diminished by the pandemic, with its rising death toll and ruinous effect on the economy. But the general election is more than seven months away and Trump's public approval rating has ticked up as the coronavirus has spread - though not nearly as high as the last Republican president, George W. Bush, following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.*** Scott Brennan, an Iowa Democratic National Committee member and a former state party chairman, said, "If the economy pops back...it's hard to know what people are going to think."

In an effort to influence those votes, Biden has resolved the technological difficulties that marred his earliest appearances from his home in Wilmington, Del. He is now making regular appearances, via webcast, to speak about the coronavirus pandemic, including town hall meetings and a rush of TV interviews. But the effectiveness of his counterprogramming is unclear, as Biden competes for attention not only with Trump, but with high-profile Democratic governors such as California's Gavin Newsom, New York's Andrew Cuomo and Michgan's Gretchen Whitmer, who - unlike Biden - are sitting executives involved in the coronavirus response.**** Biden, said Darry Sragow, a longtime California Democratic strategist, "has no control over this at all." "To me, it's like you're in a bar and a brawl breaks out," Sragow said. "You've got to park your immediate instinct. You have no control over the immediate outcome of the brawl."

One problem for Democrats is that the nation's battle with coronavirus - and Trump's position in the center of it - may go on for months. The party's marquee political event, the Democratic National Convention, scheduled for July, is the subject of contingency plannin in case the coronavirus still precludes large crowds from gathering. DNC officials said last week that planning is moving forward for the Milwaukee event. But many Democrats are doubtful - and fearful of a worst-case scenario in which the pandemic upends the Democratic convention, but not the Republican gathering the following month.

"It matters for this reason," said Bob Mulholland, a DNC member from California. "That Thursday night speech by our nominee could be seen by 50 to 60 million Americans, most of them who haven't paid a minute of attention to the primary. That's the conversation that takes us to winning." He said, "If we have to cancel and Trump has a convention with 40,000 people screaming and yelling...that's an advantage to Trump, because nobody saw us except some text they got, and then they watched Trump."

Jay Jacobs, chairman of the New York Democratic Party, suggested last week that Democrats should at least consider putting their convention off until late August. Even if the coronavirus pandemic has eased by late spring, he said, "everybody's going to be absolutely exhausted." At a minimum, the pandemic is shortening the time frame with which Democrats will run their fall campaign. And it is changing expectations about the resonance of any issue other than the coronavirus.

Advocates of "Medicare For All" have seized on the pandemic as a way to highlight their concerns about health care. Gun control activists have drawn connections to the crisis, raising alarms about domestic violence and unsafe gun storage with Americans spending far more hours at home. Climate change activists have advanced the "Green New Deal" as a tool for economic recovery, while also pointing to the world's massive response to the coronavirus as a template for climate mobilization. Peter Ambler, executive director of the gun control group Giffords, said gun control - which was once a major focus of the Democratic primary - is "baked into our politics and our culture in a way that's not going to evaporate. I do think it's important at a time like this for people who care about climate to keep on fighting for climate change solutions, because that challenge isn't going to go away, the people who care about immigration reform to keep on having that conversation because clearly our immigration system is in need of reform, and likewise when it comes to gun violence," he said.

Yet there's little evidence to date that the coronavirus is altering those debates in a material way. As one strategist who has worked on climate change for several years said, "None of that stuff is happening right now...It looks tone deaf to not be focused on the thing that's gripping and changing people's lives in a once-in-a-lifetime way." Matthew Littman, a former Biden speechwriter and the executive director of a new pro-Biden super PAC, Win the West, said in 2016, "Hillary [versus] Trump was, for lack of a better term, exciting." This year, he said, "No one is looking at this point for the most exciting race to take place between Biden and Trum. They're just looking for a really competent leader...It's like being in a war. When that happens, if an asteroid hits the Earth, other issues go out the window. This is where we are as a country."

Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said that when Democrats coalesced around Biden in South Carolina, the message "from the backbone of the Democratic Party" was that "before you move ahead, you have to stabilize that which we used to have, including government that is not only competent in a crisis, but doesn't default to racism and xenophobia." Concerns about other issues, she said, will persist within the Democratic Party. "But people need to feel safe, first and foremost," she said, "before they feel bold."

Some compression for space; original text at http://www.yahoo.com/news/coro...trump-083059736.html

* True. This was the Dem's first, most fundamental and most debilitating mistake. It also speaks eloquently about a massive lack of unity in the Dem party and the complete absence of a coherent message of hope for the future that any competent politician will tell you is the sine qua non without which winning a Presidential election is pretty much impossible.

** Also a fundamental error. The mere fact that Trump completely disagrees with any agenda advanced by the Dems may make him seem utterly insane to ideologically committed liberals, but it's absolutely not enough to convince a majority of Americans (including many Dems!) that Trump is even mildly insane. This, ladies and gents, is what happens when you disappear up your own rear end before sitting down and beginning to think things through. It is also, incidentally, a good working definition of screaming political desperation.

*** Er, apples and oranges? Straw man? Take your pick.

**** Hmm, yes, all of whom have conspicuously not said a word about how badly they and their states need Biden as President. You'd almost think they were more concerned with, you know, their own political careers. Good luck on that, Uncah Joe. Expect them to demand the moon and stars from you in return for their endorsement.

I dunno, folks. I think the Dems have one hell of a lot of work to do just to have a chance of winning, and they're just not finding chances to do the work it'll take. The more interesting question may be what happens after they're able to campaign again normally and wind up going absolutely bok trying to play catch-up.
 
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