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I don’t think Joe will make it to the election. He’s too far gone. I think Governor Cuomo will be the D candidate.
 
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If he chooses Wretched Gretchen, at least we will be rid of her.
That said, the idea of her getting into the office of POTUS if Biden should bail, is terrifying.
And our Lt. Governor? A community organizer for social and racial justice. Hmmm.... Where have I heard that before?


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This is where I smell disunity and ineffectiveness. IF the Dems' job one is to get rid of Trump and IF Biden is the party's spokesman, then why are we listening to Pelosi and Schumer claim that the amount of money in the second aid bill needs to be doubled to include money for food stamps and a host of other liberal political causes? Why isn't Biden out front leading this charge?

Well, the obvious answer is twofold: Biden sucks at convincing others to support the policies he supports and Pelosi and Schumer are too busy making themselves look important to bother giving Biden a shot at boosting his importance in the minds of the electorate.

Either way, though, Biden's being left on a turnout somewhere in the middle of the highway as though he were utterly irrelevant.
 
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Maybe Pelosi and Schumer know that Biden is a lost cause. They're evil, not stupid.
 
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They're evil, not stupid.

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Because if they try to get Biden as the spokesperson for the Dems they know that we'll end up with some really funny videos at his expense, like him saying "Who knew Mexican beer could make you sick, well, except for that time I went to Tijuana with Obama..."Tijuana with Obama, Tijuana with Obama" thats funny, I like saying that..."

Personally Im rooting for Gaffemaster Joe to get in front of a camera early and often.


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This is where I smell disunity and ineffectiveness. IF the Dems' job one is to get rid of Trump and IF Biden is the party's spokesman, then why are we listening to Pelosi and Schumer claim that the amount of money in the second aid bill needs to be doubled to include money for food stamps and a host of other liberal political causes? Why isn't Biden out front leading this charge?

Well, the obvious answer is twofold: Biden sucks at convincing others to support the policies he supports and Pelosi and Schumer are too busy making themselves look important to bother giving Biden a shot at boosting his importance in the minds of the electorate.

Either way, though, Biden's being left on a turnout somewhere in the middle of the highway as though he were utterly irrelevant.


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If he chooses Wretched Gretchen, at least we will be rid of her.
That said, the idea of her getting into the office of POTUS if Biden should bail, is terrifying.
And our Lt. Governor? A community organizer for social and racial justice. Hmmm.... Where have I heard that before?


She's certainly doing everything she can to show the world that she's going to whip this disease by herself. In a state of course that's in the top three for infections and deaths. Good job!




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A coda, perhaps, to a primary that just sort of... fizzled into nonexistence in the face of more important matters?

De yoofs is an-gray.

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I Will Vote For Joe Biden In November. And It Will Kill Me.
Melissa Batchelor Warnke, Los Angeles Times Opinion, 4/13/2020

The idea of the president as pater familias - the moral head of the nation - has always been just an idea. The job functionally involves killing people, directly or indirectly; that's now what we'd have our good fathers do. Still, it's a potent fiction, and never before have the two candidates for the job so baldly resembled the creepy uncle you'd avoid getting cornered by at a family function. (Libidinum patruus? Whatever.)

Now, before you accuse me of spoiling the election by refusing to go hard in the paint for a birdbrained hair sniffer, let me be clear: I will vote for Joe Biden in November and it will kill me.

There are several reasons I will vote for Joe Biden, few of which have to do with Joe Biden. For one, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 87. She was born in 1933, people; no amount of reverence from the blue states will make the rules of the human game - we are born, we die - less likely to apply to her. Another is Donald Trump, a man who alludes to having sex with models in the middle of a pandemic briefing.

Still, Biden will probably lose, regardless of how I or the Democratic Socialists of America or anyone else votes, because he is a uniquely uninspiring candidate; Joe Biden is three children in a trenchcoat, twice passed-over, alternately psychobabbling and walking out of the frame. There is one hope yet: if Biden nominates Amy Klobuchar to be his vice president. Now that would activate the youth vote! Kidding, I'm kidding. Ninety percent of voters under age 40 couldn't pick Klobuchar our of a lineup of four brunettes; the other 10% know her for eating salad with a hairbrush. (Unofficial poll.) Her brightest campaign moment was scoring third in the New Hampshire primary. That's the dream team, baby.

Three years after the #MeToo movement told survivors our experiences were speakable, we now have the right to choose between two men accused of sexual assault and harassment - and the rumored carrot for the Democrats' guy is that he might choose an alleged workplace abuser...who is a woman!!!! Girl power!!! Forgive me if the roars of support I'm now obliged to affect get stuck in my throat.

I supported Bernie Sanders in this primary, but I am not #BernieorBust. I would have been happy with Elizabeth Warren and far happier than I am now with some others too. I did not support Sanders in 2016, and the supporters who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in that election drove me mad. Ultimately, though, the busters weren't primarily responsible for Hillary Clinton's loss. Clinton ate it in Michigan, where she barely campaigned. (Among a billion other reasons.)

We are now in a pandemic, being led by one of the world's great morons, who has only a handful of capable public servants still standing around him. It's quite hard to imagine how Joe Biden would lead differently, given that as the coronavirus spread across the United States, Biden went dark. For some reason, no one - not even Symone Sanders, the capable strategist who served as Bernie Sanders' national press secretary in 2016 and has since switched to the Biden camp - can get the guy from walking out of the frame his own video.

Disappearing was functionally what he did throughout the debates; Biden often ceded his time back, making a point to tell the moderator he was sure he'd nearly hist his limit. Nothing to say, framed as gentility. Imagine having nothing to say right now.

Speak to it or around it, but Biden's cognition is declining; he's barely in the race. As the field consolidated around him, it became hard to imagine a likelier outcome for January 2021 than the orange king being re-coronated before what is sure to be another record-breaking, incredible, awe-inspiring crowd, the likes of which have never been seen before.

But just one - OK, fine, a dozen! - more thing(s) I hate - quickly! I hate that when Ginsburg dies Roe vs. Wade will be overturned and millions of young women will not live the lives they wanted or intended to live. I hate that the future of reproductive choice rests on one very old person. I hate that Ginsburg didn't retire under President Obama when she could and should have.

I hate how Biden treated Anita Hill and how he had the opportunity to apologize and botched the job. I hate that the mainstream media barely covered the recent sexual assault accusations against Biden by former aide Tara Reade. I hate Biden's unapologetic handsiness and his empty chivalry and the smarmy, entitled projection that he was the only choice from day one. I hate many of Biden's past votes and positions. I hate that I am now in the position of either voting for one of two men I would not comfortably be alone in a room with or forgo what I believe is a core civic duty.

Biden's main selling point for president is that he's a seat filler. He will, we are assured, do little. He will do so little it will be like it was before; we will sink drowsily into the past. I hate that.

I hate that Sanders was written off as a lark when he was always a canary. I hate that some moderates are seeing that now, when the hour's too late. I hate that he didn't get the votes. I hate that his campaign is over, even though it was time.

Here's what I love. I love that Sanders privileged content over form; he was a crumpled, ornery old guy with a New York accent who kept saying that ordinary people deserved more and better. I love that he made some of us believe it. I love that he emphasized the American people's interconnectedness and that our fates are intertwined not only in this country but also with those of other nations. I love that he asked those of us with more to sacrifice some material comfort; he never lied about that. I love that he asked those of us with less to value our work even as power would tell us otherwise. I love that he hopes to known for his compassion. I love that he met his caring with clarity of purpose and with strong policy. [sic - IC]

Sanders has said he intends to push Biden to the left and I dearly hope he achieves that. But regardless of whether Biden moves, I will do what Sanders is now imploring his supporters to do: I will get behind the Democratic nominee. Against all internal resistance, I will vote for creepy Joe Biden, a man who both should be and does not deserve to be president.

Original text at http://www.yahoo.com/news/vote...-kill-211125932.html

Helpful hint for those of you who may not be intimately conversant in Westcoastese: When someone there is as wonderfully eloquent and yet as utterly incoherent and disorganized as the author of this piece, that person has just realized that they've gone irretrievably nuts and decided that there's nothing for it but to light up a joint and go with the flow.

Just remember one thing should we find ourselves passing through dark days in the campaign ahead: This is what rabid Democrats and Biden's friends are saying!
 
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That's a great read. Absolutely depressing if your a dem.

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Melissa Batchelor Warnke, Los Angeles Times Opinion, 4/13/2020:
Biden's main selling point for president is that he's a seat filler. He will, we are assured, do little. He will do so little it will be like it was before; we will sink drowsily into the past. I hate that.

That's the only positive for biden in the entire article.


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That's a great read. Absolutely depressing if your a dem.

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Melissa Batchelor Warnke, Los Angeles Times Opinion, 4/13/2020:
Biden's main selling point for president is that he's a seat filler. He will, we are assured, do little. He will do so little it will be like it was before; we will sink drowsily into the past. I hate that.

That's the only positive for biden in the entire article.


Except it's wrong. He's a puppet and his masters will do much.
 
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That's a great read. Absolutely depressing if your a dem.
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Melissa Batchelor Warnke, Los Angeles Times Opinion, 4/13/2020:
Biden's main selling point for president is that he's a seat filler...


Perhaps Melissa Batchelor Warnke will go to the polls on November 4th to vote for Joe Biden.
But she sure isn't going to motivate many of her age to do likewise, is she? It's almost like she's writing an obituary and lamenting what could have been but never was...
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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I have stopped watching or reading anything related to
  • Coronavirus / COVID-19
  • The 2020 presidential election

I can't escape the almost daily gaffes that emanate from ol' Sleepy Joe's basement. There is no f'ing way this braindead moron will be president, much less the nominee of the Democrat Party.




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Back in my college days I took a class in formal and informal logic (fallacies). This piece would be rich to analyze as a term paper. Strawman fallacy, false premise, confirmation bias, pro causa non causa.

I don't know of the incoherence you mention is caused by too many joints in college days, or by the divide-by-zero syndrome.




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I have stopped watching or reading anything related to
  • Coronavirus / COVID-19
  • The 2020 presidential election

I can't escape the almost daily gaffes that emanate from ol' Sleepy Joe's basement. There is no f'ing way this braindead moron will be president, much less the nominee of the Democrat Party.


BHO to endorse him today.




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She seems fixated on RBG and the probable demise of Roe vs. Wade. Although I'm male and don't have a real issue with women's rights, my feeling is that if a woman doesn't want a baby she should take steps to avoid starting one. Abortion is a late fix to a problem that shouldn't have happened.

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BHO to endorse him today.

The narcissist in chief. Joe helped me... blah, blah, blah.
... and I know he'll surround himself with good people. Wink




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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She seems fixated on RBG and the probable demise of Roe vs. Wade. Although I'm male and don't have a real issue with women's rights, my feeling is that if a woman doesn't want a baby she should take steps to avoid starting one. Abortion is a late fix to a problem that shouldn't have happened.

flashguy


And I'm a bit flabbergasted by her hysteria that Roe vs. Wade will be overturned and suddenly Planned Parenthood and similar providers will be tarred and feathered and offices torched. Abortion clinics operated just fine during Republican and Democrat administrations. Why would it be any different with Trump's second term? Is the SCOTUS going to over turned RvW? (I'm not a SCOTUS hawk, I just don't know).


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I suspect the court would look at Roe v Wade as settled law, and any new restrictions would be judicial activism.




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^^^ Not necessarily. Both conservative and liberal thinkers will tell you that picking the first trimester based on the state of medical science in 1972 creates a rather shaky foundation for the legal decision going forward. Not that it's a slam-dunk the other way; what liberal legal thinkers fear isn't so much that abortion will be immediately rendered illegal as much as that the legal point will become a complete jump-ball all over again. By the same token, the legal thinkers on the other side are excited by the prospect that they could get another shot at the decision rather than certainty that the decision would go their way the second time around. It's the pink fore'n'aft cappers who are convinced that Roe v Wade will simply be unceremoniously flushed down the tubes.
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I don't know of the incoherence you mention is caused by too many joints in college days, or by the divide-by-zero syndrome.

I'm convinced that she couldn't manage the occasional flashes of brilliance if this wasn't a matter of dividing by zero on a hellbent for leather basis. Then again, that's just my guess.
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... and I know he'll surround himself with good people.

Hey, give O credit - he only spoke about himself and Michelle for the first two minutes. My question is this: if O never figured out how to surround himself with "experts, scientists, military officials...who actually know how to run the government, and actually care about running the government", then how does he know Biden will?

Of course I had to laugh when O called Bernie "an American original" - what, Barack, you've never heard of Emma Goldman and the Haymarket riots in Chicago? I guess O never got past Jane Addams in liberal history class.

Oh, and O? It doesn't do much good to call for "Americans of all political stripes to get involved" when the good and the pure among the Progressives withdraw the hems of their garments and demand that anyone unlike them be expelled from human society.
 
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