Nah, they don’t want to split the vote and he’d rather take another dive in the 8th round and get another payout.
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January 17, 2020, 06:11 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by benny6: Maybe they'll encourage him to run independent under the socialist party. AOC as his VP.
Tony.
She can't be his VP.
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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
"Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle
January 17, 2020, 06:25 PM
chellim1
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge: Personally, I think at this point, if you consider yourself a conservative but are still (or even newly) a NeverTrumper, then you’ve let emotion, and personal tastes, rather than logic, guide you. There’s a lot of former NeverTrumpers who’ve had the scales fall from their eyes since he took office.
I think the big question is what are the Bernie bros who stayed home last time in a snit fit going to do this time when he gets railroaded again.
That is the big question. And I think the Bernie bros who stayed home last time will mostly do the same thing again. Of course, many will reluctantly pull the lever for Warren or Biden, but a lot of them will be disillusioned and stay home. Bernie won't run 3rd party.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
January 17, 2020, 06:27 PM
P220 Smudge
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Originally posted by chellim1: Bernie won't run 3rd party.
This much, I'm pretty sure of. Their big, stated goal, is unseat Trump, and him going 3rd party does nothing to help that. He’ll take another payout and may or may not run for his seat in the senate.
I believe their second, unstated goal, was to run candidates like him, and Beto, and others and see how super-leftist topics and positions were polling. How they played out on the debate stage and reactions to it. It seems to be moving more that direction, but I think the Dems don’t feel like a Bernie could win right now.
We’ve got most of a year left to the election, so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out, but they seem to again have it in for ‘ol Bunny Sanduss.
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January 17, 2020, 06:56 PM
corsair
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
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Originally posted by chellim1: Bernie won't run 3rd party.
I believe their second, unstated goal, was to run candidates like him, and Beto, and others and see how super-leftist topics and positions were polling. How they played out on the debate stage and reactions to it. It seems to be moving more that direction, but I think the Dems don’t feel like a Bernie could win right now.
If/when the DNC convention in Milwaukee devolves into a shit-show, I'm predicting a chunk of the most-left of the Dems, will leave the party and flock to the Greens. They'll align themselves with the European Greens and attempt to elevate the US Green party to the national stage beyond what Ralph Nader was able to do. It'll be the party for the socialist-minded and the Alphabet People.
January 17, 2020, 07:07 PM
P220 Smudge
Entirely possible. There were a lot of cries to do so after the 2016 election.
I think it may be safe to say that we're seeing the dissolution of the "big tent" Democrat party. They tried to round up everyone who wasn't a white guy and claim to represent them, when it simply was never a possibility in the first place.
I'm totally ok with everyone left of the middle splintering into their own little special factions. I think the reason it hasn't happened so far, and possibly won't, however, is the same reasons the TEA party and Libertarian party never amounted to anything. That's all been discussed at length here over the years.
I think more options are better than the binary choice in terms of politics. However, that isn't the reality we find ourselves in, currently. In any case, our best bet is still Donald Trump. But it is amusing to watch them reach the point in the race where the knives start to come out.
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January 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
erj_pilot
And "experts" and "pundits" predicted the Republican party would dissolve once Donald Trump was elected. Wish I woulda taken the odds and put a Grant down on THAT bet!!
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
January 17, 2020, 08:14 PM
P220 Smudge
I did say "possibly won't" for the very same reasons.
We on the right tend to love freedom and respect life. Those on the left tend to love state control and "fairness of outcome."
The difference is, people who love freedom are just people. And we respect and welcome them as they join our ranks. People who want state control and "fairness of outcome" all get herded into their "intersectional" cattle cars of preference and rank, and all head down the same rails to the same conclusion that socialism and communism guarantees: When everyone who disagrees with the state gets a bullet in the back of the skull, the outcome is fair.
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January 17, 2020, 09:17 PM
parabellum
Time to hear from my favorite leftist, Jimmy Dore. This is what Elizabeth Warren is made of- freezing in the face of hecklers and having to be rescued ("What do we do??" Yes, she actually said this- a person who wants to be the leader of the free world freezes up and has to be rescued from a handful of hecklers), and the second part is Warren's pandering and stuttering doubletalk non-answer to Megan McCain on the idiotic View. Listen to the long-winded tangent this imbecile goes on in an effort to not answer the question.
This wants to be POTUS, the most powerful position in the free world. What a fucking joke. Forget about the fact that the woman is a pathological liar. She has feet of clay.
"It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works out for them"
January 20, 2020, 12:04 PM
RAMIUS
I haven’t heard much from Biden lately. Seems like it’s time for the media to go to work on the rest of the group of shitheads, while he sits back and swoops in for the nomination at the last minute.
January 20, 2020, 12:09 PM
benny6
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by benny6: Maybe they'll encourage him to run independent under the socialist party. AOC as his VP.
Tony.
She can't be his VP.
Details, details...
Let them figure it out later.
It would be fun to watch. They don’t follow the rules anyway.
