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I'm sure Trump has known for a while.

I believe I heard that Ambassador Haley told President Trump 6 months ago. I'm proud to see they could BOTH keep a secret...



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Some of the posts here are scary, I enjoy how President Trump lives rent free in the minds of the loony left socialists, how his every move sends them into a tail spin. But, some here have the same syndrome only in reverse everything that occurs in the administration has doom and gloom written on it. Do you think for one minute anybody in a position like Haley surprises the boss with something like that? President Trump is a conductor and this is his symphony he knows forehand every note and conducts them well.
 
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I think she took this job to polish up her resume for some future job on the national stage.
Governor, check.
Foreign policy experience, check.
She seemed to do a pretty good job and since she's not leaving for a few months she must be on good terms.
Trump mentioned that she may be back at a later time in a different position. I suspect shes going to move up the food chain when that happens.


I agree.


I don't get it. Why can't a person in her position just want to spend more time with their family and get out of the grinder for awhile without some nefarious agenda? I take her at her word.

Jim


Who said there was anything "nefarious" about what she's doing? She has legitimately improved her credentials and market value.

I don't think she's independently wealthy and so she can now make a few bucks for her family then get back in at some later date.
 
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She's going to be the new Attorney General.



...or is that not enough gloom and doom for you guys?


That would be great. I was thinking Lindsey Graham would be the next AG.
 
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And Presidents don't replace their VPs. It makes it seem as if they made a mistake.
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Maybe not normally, but we're talking Trump here. It doesn't seem to bother him to replace anyone with someone better qualified.

Which would make a better candidate in 2024, Pence or Haley?
 
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Which would make a better candidate in 2024, Pence or Haley?


Haley without a doubt. Pence will energize all the abortion champions much more than the last election.
 
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I have to wonder if maybe the Pres. will put Bolton back in that job......he knows it very well.
 
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I have to wonder if maybe the Pres. will put Bolton back in that job......he knows it very well.


Headline the next day "UN Ambassadors Resign" (all of them). Big Grin




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She may run against Trump in 2020.


Can she be President? When did her parents become US citizens?


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I think she took this job to polish up her resume for some future job on the national stage.
Governor, check.
Foreign policy experience, check.
She seemed to do a pretty good job and since she's not leaving for a few months she must be on good terms.
Trump mentioned that she may be back at a later time in a different position. I suspect shes going to move up the food chain when that happens.


I agree.


I don't get it. Why can't a person in her position just want to spend more time with their family and get out of the grinder for awhile without some nefarious agenda? I take her at her word.

Jim


Those jobs are, indeed stressful. But there is also no doubt in my mind that this is a stepping stone and resume builder. Not many people's ambition tops out at UN Ambassador.




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She may run against Trump in 2020.


Can she be President? When did her parents become US citizens?


Haley was born in South Carolina. She is a natural-born American citizen and her parents' citizenship status, then or now, is irrelevant. She can be President - there is no question.




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Originally posted by FishOn:
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Originally posted by 220-9er:
I think she took this job to polish up her resume for some future job on the national stage.
Governor, check.
Foreign policy experience, check.
She seemed to do a pretty good job and since she's not leaving for a few months she must be on good terms.
Trump mentioned that she may be back at a later time in a different position. I suspect shes going to move up the food chain when that happens.


I agree.


I don't get it. Why can't a person in her position just want to spend more time with their family and get out of the grinder for awhile without some nefarious agenda? I take her at her word.

Jim


Those jobs are, indeed stressful. But there is also no doubt in my mind that this is a stepping stone and resume builder. Not many people's ambition tops out at UN Ambassador.


This. Might just be ready for less stress and a huge paycheck in the private sector.


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it could also be as simple as she wants to spend more time with family

doesn't have to be a hidden agenda



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I have to wonder if maybe the Pres. will put Bolton back in that job......he knows it very well.


Headline the next day "UN Ambassadors Resign" (all of them). Big Grin


Bolton had a Senate problem when he was nominated as UN Ambassador before and could not be confirmed. He was given a recess appointment and served until the end of that Congress. I don’t know if that problem still exists or has retired.




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I almost fell out of my chair laughing tonight when NBC News speculated that she was the source of an anonymous letter railing the Trump Administration. Roll Eyes Big Grin




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And Presidents don't replace their VPs. It makes it seem as if they made a mistake.


Maybe not normally, but we're talking Trump here. It doesn't seem to bother him to replace anyone with someone better qualified.

Which would make a better candidate in 2024, Pence or Haley?[/QUOTE]

That, and my memory sucks, but I thought that a big part of choosing Pence as VP was to avoid terrifying more moderate folks. After seeing what President Trump has accomplished in spite of the best efforts of the political, academic, entertainment, and “news” media Lefties, I think President Trump is much more of a known quantity now than he was in 2016. I expect that will be even more true in 2020.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see him “upgrade” his VP to someone he considers better equipped to carry the torch in 2024.

In any case, time will tell.
 
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Here’s a nice rumor. I think he’d be great. For one thing, he seems to be something of a showman.

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Ryan Zinke under consideration to succeed Haley as UN ambassador, sources say
Bret Baier1 day ago


Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke is among the candidates being considered to succeed outgoing U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, according to two senior Trump administration officials.

Haley’s resignation, announced Tuesday, shocked lawmakers and staff and quickly led to speculation about who might replace her in the critical post once she leaves in January.

Trump revealed Tuesday that he has narrowed the choice down to five candidates. He confirmed that former deputy national security adviser Dina Powell is on that list, saying she is “certainly a person I would consider.”

But while Powell is still believed to be the front-runner, Fox News has learned that Trump is meeting Wednesday with Zinke about the U.N. role and other issues.

Zinke is a former member of the House Armed Services Committee and was a Navy SEAL who served in Europe, Bosnia, Iraq and South Korea. Zinke has talked to several people about the job and appears to want it.

Who is on the shortlist to replace Amb. Nikki Haley?Video
On Tuesday aboard Air Force One, Trump indicated he would also be open to U.S. Ambassador to Germany Rick Grenell -- but added that he was not on his shortlist, as he is doing well in his current post.

Trump’s daughter Ivanka, who immediately became the subject of speculation after Haley's surprise announcement, took herself out of the running in a tweet Tuesday. Trump has said he will make the decision in the next two or three weeks.

Fox News’ Gregg Re contributed to this report.


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^^There were rumors a while back that Secretary Zinke wanted to run for an office in Montana--Senator, Governor, or the like. If indeed he wants to be the UN Ambassador, he could see that as a stepping stone to greater things. Or maybe he just wants the job.
 
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I'd personally like to see Rick Grenell get the nod. I enjoyed his commentary when he was on Fox as a contributor. It sounds like he really hit the ground running as Ambassador to Germany though after finally getting confirmed, and President Trump may not want to disturb his momentum. Still, he'd be my pick.


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Just goes to show, Sigforum is way ahead of the rest of the world in looking ahead. This was discussed when she announced her retirement from the UN Cool


Nikki Haley has said she will not run for president in 2020. But would she run for vice president in 2020 and then president in 2024? That could be the right path for the U.N. Ambassador, who has announced she will retire at the end of this year and who is definitely presidential material.

It’s a long time until 2024. Some speculate that Haley might run for the Senate should fellow South Carolinian Lindsey Graham be appointed to replace Jeff Sessions as Attorney General after the midterm elections. Barring that opportunity, she runs the risk of fading from view and missing her moment, as Chris Christie did in 2012. Whether or not the president is reelected two years from now with Haley as his running mate, she would naturally emerge as the frontrunner in 2024.

For Trump, too, putting Haley on the ticket makes all the sense in the world.

Many think that in 2020, President Trump is once again likely to face off against a female candidate. Whether it is Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand or, God forbid, Hillary Clinton, his opponent (male or female) will surely attack Mr. Trump for his alleged philandering and supposed mistreatment of women. Nobody could better deflect such accusations than a woman who has worked for the president, and who can speak from personal experience of his support for capable and outspoken females.

Haley is also a minority, the daughter of immigrants from India. Her mother started quite a successful retail business in the U.S. Haley’s experience working in that enterprise informs her pro-business platform, which she shares with Mr. Trump. Her background also allows her to champion intelligent immigration policies, and the benefits this nation derives from people who enter the country legally.

Nikki Haley’s U.N. tenure has received high marks, even from the left-leaning media. The New York Times lamented her resignation in an editorial titled “Nikki Haley Will Be Missed,” mainly because they portray her as a bulwark against what they deem “Mr. Trump’s worst policies and instincts.”

Haley has a formidable resume, more substantial than that of any of the women running on the Democratic side, barring Hillary Clinton whose credentials mainly fall into the voting “present” category, since she accomplished almost nothing during her stint as Secretary of State.

Haley was the first woman and the first minority to serve as governor of South Carolina. She had previously been elected a state legislator, and served as president of the National Association of Women Business Owners.

As governor, Haley was credited with being strong and compassionate as she dealt with a series of crises, including the mass shooting by Dylann Roof at the Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston. She led the citizens of her state in prayer on that occasion, and again in the aftermath of the horrific floods in 2015. The state’s second-largest newspaper said of her response to these crises, “time after time, Gov. Haley did a superior job.” They also noted that “when the nation turned its attention to South Carolina, she presented a smart, calm and confident face...”

As governor for six years, she focused on attracting businesses to the state, and employment grew by 400,000 under her watch. She led reforms aimed at rooting out corruption, and she is credited with removing the Confederate Flag from the statehouse, a courageous move in South Carolina. In the middle of her second term, Haley had the 15th-highest approval ratings of any governor in the nation.

Nikki Haley has proved that she can be tough; tough with South Carolina’s legislators (to the dismay of some critics), tough with our allies and rivals in the U.N. and, on occasion, tough with President Trump. And yet, she survived her tour of duty under our mercurial president; she apparently really does have diplomatic skills.

By now you’re probably wondering; what about Mike Pence?

Mike Pence has been a loyal number two in the Trump administration. He has rarely made waves, reliably defended the president in times of turmoil (often, in other words) and has fulfilled the critical role of bolstering the White House’s relationship with the evangelical community. During the 2016 election, the religious right eyed Mr. Trump with understandable skepticism. He had few Republican or conservative credentials, and though he professed to be pro-life was visibly bewildered about what that meant. Moreover, his various scandals and numerous wives caused heartburn amongst evangelicals.

During that race, he needed Mike Pence, a Catholic altar boy in his youth and born-again Christian, to woo the evangelical community. This was an easy assignment, since Pence had long been that group’s pick among presidential candidates. As Richard Land, president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary and a Trump faith advisor told The Atlantic’s McKay Coppins, “Mike Pence is the 24-karat-gold model of what we want in an evangelical politician.”

With the help of Pence, as Coppins points out, Trump won “an astonishing 81 percent of white evangelicals’ votes, more than any Republican presidential candidate on record.” The president’s standing with that community remains high; as Robert Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas tweeted on September 2, "The primary reason Evangelicals voted for @POTUS by the widest margin of any candidate in history is because of his commitment to a conservative judiciary, and he's fulfilling that promise beyond anyone's wildest imaginations."

The ascension of Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the nation’s highest court, along with other measures like moving our embassy to Jerusalem, has cemented Trump’s standing with conservative Christians. But as the president fought to deflect challenges to the Kavanaugh confirmation, he further alienated the #MeToo movement and injured his standing with women.

Approaching 2020, his deficit is with female voters. Knowing that more Supreme Court seats might open up, the Evangelical community is likely to stay on board. Thus, swapping out Mike Pence for Nikki Haley makes all the sense in the world for Trump.

Now he just has to find another job for Mike Pence which would allow him to gracefully step down, and encourage Nikki Haley to sign on. Both those steps will require some artful deal-making, to be sure. But we’ve already seen that the president is capable of doing just that.


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