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Actually, I would prefer that senators be appointed by state gubbernments! That way, they would have more interest in looking out for their states, and less looking out for their pockets.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes please.

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Originally posted by Veeper:

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Actually, I would prefer that senators be appointed by state gubbernments! That way, they would have more interest in looking out for their states, and less looking out for their pockets.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes please.

And have a recall/switch at any time, however your state would like to do it. However, if your state can't get it's shit together & have a Senator available to vote, you don't get a vote.

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Originally posted by snidera:

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Originally posted by Veeper:

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Actually, I would prefer that senators be appointed by state gubbernments! That way, they would have more interest in looking out for their states, and less looking out for their pockets.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes please.

And have a recall/switch at any time, however your state would like to do it. However, if your state can't get it's shit together & have a Senator available to vote, you don't get a vote.

Well, it was that way until 1913 and the passing/adoption of the 17th Amendment.

flashguy

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Originally posted by Veeper:

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Actually, I would prefer that senators be appointed by state gubbernments! That way, they would have more interest in looking out for their states, and less looking out for their pockets.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes please.

That was the way it was originally done! Until the 17th amendment!

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Originally posted by Veeper:

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Actually, I would prefer that senators be appointed by state gubbernments! That way, they would have more interest in looking out for their states, and less looking out for their pockets.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes please.

That was the way it was originally done! Until the 17th amendment!

I pointed this out, and then I also pointed out how this would remove a ton of the national, corrupt, money involved in the Senate elections.

JALLAN was quick to also point out, rightly, that one of the reasons cited for the need for the 17th, was corruption in the Senate selection process.

I'd rather go back and try it without the 17th then rely on "scholars" of today to try and fix it.

Fair enough, but there's still no reason to think that it would do anything except shift the vectors of corruption - while taking power away from the voters in a state as a whole. There's no reason to seek out intermediaries to exercise your power, any more than there's any need to add extraneous overhead to the way you run your company.

But hey - if it sounds like a magic wand, then, you know, maybe we'll find out magic actually exists!!!

The truly pathetic part of the argument is that it mirrors the "logic" that has the liberals sweating over whether Ginsberg remains on the bench - her seniority, her logic, her persuasive powers, her mere presence will somehow magically keep the forces of conservatism at bay because no one would ever dare screw with her. Riiiiight.

How long has it been since we've seen any proof that RBG is actually still alive?

3 or 4 weeks now?

I smell a rat. Or is that a corpse?

The "2019" shown in the graphic isn't over yet...

So what’s the latest on this broad? Has nobody still not seen or heard from her?

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So what’s the latest on this broad? Has nobody still not seen or heard from her?

What happened to all the prognostications? She hasn’t resigned, or been declared dead, or turned into a pumpkin, or whatever else so many people were certain would have happened by now.
I am so disappointed.

you and me both - perhaps she will kick off during the SOTU...if she even shows up for it

How would you know the difference?

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ALLAN was quick to also point out, rightly, that one of the reasons cited for the need for the 17th, was corruption in the Senate selection process.

Well, we can see how well that worked out!

I guess the SOTU is back “on”.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by limblessbiff:
So what’s the latest on this broad? Has nobody still not seen or heard from her?

What happened to all the prognostications? She hasn’t resigned, or been declared dead, or turned into a pumpkin, or whatever else so many people were certain would have happened by now.
I am so disappointed.

I'm not convinced they will tell us. Woodrow Wilson's wife ran the Presidency for years while he was debilitated by stroke. I smell a Weekend at Ruthie's coming.

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Originally posted by jigray3:
I'm not convinced they will tell us. Woodrow Wilson's wife ran the Presidency for years while he was debilitated by stroke. I smell a Weekend at Ruthie's coming.

If only we'd have had iPhones 100 years ago.

Maybe that's why Nancy doesn't want to have the SOTU address. They don't want the empty seat while Ruthie's on ice.

I saw a couple flags at half mast today. Is it bad if I wondered if we fly them thus if a SCJ dies?

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Originally posted by trapper189:
I saw a couple flags at half mast today. Is it bad if I wondered if we fly them thus if a SCJ dies?

This past Wednesday, there was a shooting in a SunTrust branch in Sebring. Five hostages killed. Governor DeSantis ordered flags flown at half mast.