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s to the general mood in the area: most folks are fed up with being told they are racist, sexist, or whatever other "ist" is in fashion that week. Again, you can't go around stomping toes and not expect to be laid out on your ass. There are many that have reached a point that they really don't care how they are perceived anymore because regardless, people are going to see them as racists. May as well be what they are telling us we are, if you will. Violence is just going to be the next step in dealing with all of the shit that has been compounding over the last 8 years.


I agree with this. I think what is happening in many ways parallels what happened to propel Donald Trump into the Oval Office. In the same way, what is happening is totally misread by the MSM and establishment politicians.

They are trying to frame this as being all about the KKK and white supremacists. Whenever I have seen a KKK "rally" in the past 20 years, about 20 goobers show up who need police protection to escort them safely away from the hundreds of counter protestors who would tear them limb from limb if they could.

Now, many hundreds show up in Charlotte. There are really only two possibilities: The KKK (and Neo-Nazis) have suddenly become tremendously popular, which is absurd. Or, there are a LOT of white men who have had enough from leftist radicals like Antifa and BLM, and from the general cultural assault on whites (like "white privilege"). The specific issue of removing the statue of one of the iconic heroes of the South was a catalyst.

This has been a long time coming, and I'm sorry to say that this is just the beginning. The left not only will not back down, they will double down. This is exactly what they have wanted and what they provoked and engineered.


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I think it won't be long until the guns come out between radicals.



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Just after the election, an acquaintance posted an interesting article on his social media feed. This acquaintance is a huge guy, big teddy bear, and in the four years I've known him, he's never so much as appeared outwardly agitated. The thrust of the article he posted was "See a Nazi? Say a Nazi. Meet a Nazi? Punch a Nazi." In short, it advocated going out to rallies where "alt-right white supremacists" were gathered and doing exactly what we saw here. For social justice. To let the Trump administration know that hate isn't going to divide us, and the harder the alt-right pushes their racist agenda, the more everyone else needs to unite against them. Roll Eyes

He's not the kind of guy I can see meeting up with a bunch of antifa shits, but if you drink the Kool-Aid and like the flavor, the good news is the production of it has ramped up for wartime production.


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Having ignored this story until today, it seems from accounts from people there, the permit for the statue rally was pulled in the last minutes, with authorities then making no attempts to separate bussed in ATIFA members from the stature protesters, in fact practically corralling the two groups into one area. With one specific group bent on pre-planned violence and mayhem. Do I have this correct?

It seems the third group in this picture is mostly to blame in this affair.



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admittedly I only caught a small running total of air time reports yesterday, but each and every one I did see used the phrase "white nationalists" far more often than any other phrase.

Is this a trend or a new definition imposed by the lurking 'globalists' of the alt-Soros cultists or what?


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I will say that you can only poke "whitey" in the eye so many times before he is just plain fed up with it.


This sums it up in one sentence.


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Conservative Principles Aren’t for Whites Only

Josh Kimbrell

The disgusting race riots we have witnessed in Charlottesville, Virginia, have been revolting for a range of reasons. The so-called “alt-right” has sought to hijack the conservative mantle and make it about ethnicity instead of ideas. Most left-leaning media outlets have tried to make the alt-right rioters, and klansmen, spokespersons for the Republican National Committee. Neither of these things are true. It is now necessary for leaders of the conservative movement to make-clear that the alt-right is not right, and being Republican is not racist.

That was the point I tried to drive-home yesterday on Fox News. Liberal politicians have generally used the unrest in Virginia to paint all Republicans into the corner on race. This is wrong and hypocritical. Where were these same liberal finger-wavers when riotous protesters last year were calling for the murder of law-enforcement officers and calling police “pigs in a blanket? Would Democrats want to be painted by such a broad brush?

Our politics must not be dominated by race; it must again be about ideas. My message to the alt-right is clear: you don’t speak for me or American conservatives. Conservatives stand for freedom, but you stand for racial fascism. Conservative ideas aren’t just for white people, but are the principles needed for all Americans to prosper.

The central tenet of the American founding is that “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” That credo, contained in our Declaration of Independence, is the heart of who we are as a people. Both parties, and all political leaders, must work to foster a conversation in our country about our shared American identity, consensus values, and common dreams. Conservatism can drive that conversation, so long as we make clear that conservatism is not specific to color.

http://www.redstate.com/joshki...ciples-arent-whites/



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Looks like there is another "White Lives Matter" protest planned on 9/11. This one is slated to be held at Texas A&M University.

Here is the news story copied directly from Dallas's WFAA TV's website:

COLLEGE STATION, Texas - A "White Lives Matter" protest is scheduled to be held on the campus of Texas A&M, following the White Nationalist protests that turned violent in Charlottesville, Va. on Saturday.

The protest is currently scheduled for September 11 and is being organized by political activist and former A&M student Preston Wiginton.

Wiginton says the rally is in response to the University's decision not to fire A&M professor Dr. Tommy Curry following a string of alleged racial comments that surfaced in early May from a podcast in 2012.

In a statement from Wiginton, he says the purpose of this event is to "protest liberal agenda of white guilt and white genocide that is taught in most universities in America."

The event is scheduled to be held at A&M's Rudder Fountain and will include speakers Sacco Vanda of "The Right Stuff" and Ken Reed of the "White Lives Matter" Houston branch


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politics must not be dominated by race; it must again be about ideas.


Exactly.

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My message to the alt-right (and Nazi's, et al) is clear: you don’t speak for me or American conservatives... Conservative ideas aren’t just for white people, but are the principles needed for all Americans to prosper.


Again, exactly.

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White Lives Matter

No shit. All of them do.

Still, protests of such sorts are a colossally bad idea, and wholly unnecessary. Nee, useless.

It's like a contest between the Nazis, Left, and Protesters for who can be the biggest ass.
 
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Neo Nazis have been having rallies for literally decades, and we all just laughed at or ignored their pathetic ignorance.

Yup, I remember them having one in my college town, they got up and made speeches and we just watched from a distance to see what the heck it was about (for 5 minutes or less), then walked away to grab some beers and get on with our afternoon.
 
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Tell me if I have something wrong here please.

duke's group are neo nazis and as such leftists by definition, not that the media would admit this. Tyrannical socialists, no other way to state it.

antifa are outright commies and therefore leftists as well.

duke's group got a permit and were non violent.

antifa attacked them with rocks and fights, not the other way around.

duke's group fought back and some knucklehead took things too far.

Do I have it right?

So, if I am on track, two leftist groups acted the fool, media covers up the antifa initiation of events and blames conservatives for the sins of the left.

Conservatives weren't there, how the fuck do we take the hit for what others have done?

Oh yeah... the leftist unbiased media.
 
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Tell me if I have something wrong here please.

duke's group are neo nazis and as such leftists by definition, not that the media would admit this. Tyrannical socialists, no other way to state it.

antifa are outright commies and therefore leftists as well.

duke's group got a permit and were non violent.

antifa attacked them with rocks and fights, not the other way around.

duke's group fought back and some knucklehead took things too far.

Do I have it right?

So, if I am on track, two leftist groups acted the fool, media covers up the antifa initiation of events and blames conservatives for the sins of the left.

Conservatives weren't there, how the fuck do we take the hit for what others have done?

Oh yeah... the leftist unbiased media.



Yep. The sensible thing should have been for the city and state officials to let them have their rally and not make a huge fuss; however, the media/left/city couldn't help themselves.




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A Facebook friend posted a photo of a guy giving a Nazi salute and one of the protesters punched him in the face. You don't have the right to assault people because you disagree with them. The man in the photo and the ahole driving the car need to understand this.
 
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Tell me if I have something wrong here please.

duke's group are neo nazis and as such leftists by definition, not that the media would admit this. Tyrannical socialists, no other way to state it.

antifa are outright commies and therefore leftists as well.

duke's group got a permit and were non violent.

antifa attacked them with rocks and fights, not the other way around.

duke's group fought back and some knucklehead took things too far.

Do I have it right?

So, if I am on track, two leftist groups acted the fool, media covers up the antifa initiation of events and blames conservatives for the sins of the left.

Conservatives weren't there, how the fuck do we take the hit for what others have done?

Oh yeah... the leftist unbiased media.



Yep. The sensible thing should have been for the city and state officials to let them have their rally and not make a huge fuss; however, the media/left/city couldn't help themselves.


I mentioned this earlier in the discussion. If they want to rally and aren't harming anyone, let them. The Left wants to start a pissing match instead of ignoring them.
 
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Considering protection of First Admendment Rights, it is interesting to note that the group which applied for the appropriate permits were prevented from speaking.

The opposing group held a rally today after the speaker for the approved rally was escorted away for his protection.

Seems to me, agree with their point of view or not, the group which followed the rules applying for the permits, should have been allowed to speak.

The city had the responsibility to maintain order, to allow for the permitted rally.



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Considering protection of First Amendment Rights, it is interesting to note that the group which applied for the appropriate permits were prevented from speaking.

Yes... and further infuriates those who simply want equal treatment.
Why is it that leftists are always protected, even when they riot, loot, and commit all sorts of violence?
When they want to speak, their speech is protected.

When conservatives jump through all the hoops, particularly on college campuses, they are still shut down and not permitted to speak.



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...duke's group got a permit...

Wait a minute! I haven't paid the greatest attention to this clusterfuck, but I thought David Duke was one of the interlopers, not part of the original group that applied for the permit.

What did I miss?


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Considering protection of First Admendment Rights, it is interesting to note that the group which applied for the appropriate permits were prevented from speaking.

The opposing group held a rally today after the speaker for the approved rally was escorted away for his protection.

Seems to me, agree with their point of view or not, the group which followed the rules applying for the permits, should have been allowed to speak.

The city had the responsibility to maintain order, to allow for the permitted rally.


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Considering protection of First Amendment Rights, it is interesting to note that the group which applied for the appropriate permits were prevented from speaking.

Yes... and further infuriates those who simply want equal treatment.
Why is it that leftists are always protected, even when they riot, loot, and commit all sorts of violence?
When they want to speak, their speech is protected.

When conservatives jump through all the hoops, particularly on college campuses, they are still shut down and not permitted to speak.


Because the leftist is a perpetual victim...

The conservative is not so he is not afforded protection because he does not require it or deserve it.


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Organizer of the Unite the Right rally punched and tackled to the floor as he gives a press conference

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ress-conference.html

Jason Kessler, the organizer behind the march
that turned violent yesterday, was surrounded by an angry mob during a press conference today
He was punched and tackled to the ground after the surrounding crowd at his presser turned nasty



Police have not confirmed if any arrests have been made.


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