It appears a C-130 went down in Mississippi today. All 16 on board were lost but only 5 have been recovered so far. Thoughts and prayers to the families of those lost

http://www.clickondetroit.com/...crash-in-mississippi

Sixteen people are dead in military plane crash in LeFlore County, Mississippi, according to Fred Randle, county emergency management director. Randle said all 16 victims were on the plane.

Damn.

The old Turkey's have a tin of hours on them.

Marine KC-130. Service to one's country that ends so tragically is the highest form of patriotism. These American souls are true patriots. We will miss them dearly." RIP

Prayers for the families and friends of those lost. RIP soldiers.

Additional information in this link. Witnesses reported it spiraling down with smoke from one engine. Granted witnesses see all sorts of weird things but it clearly doesn't paint a good picture

https://www.yahoo.com/news/off...illing-003832567.htm

Wing box failure was a problem years ago.

Made worse because of all the fuel.

Godspeed Marines, Semper Fi.

We have just been getting images from the scene -

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b09_1499739121

Total freakin' heartbreak, Gentlemen, our hearts go out to the victims and their families.

Bless 'em all.

tac

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
We have just been getting images from the scene -
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b09_1499739121
tac

That video really does sort of look like a flat spin fall. No grind/slide marks in. Still shaped like an airplane.

This sucks.

Prayers sent for the families of the fallen service members.

Prayers for the lost heroes and their families.

I have heard that the aircraft originated from Cherry Point, NC. Haven't seen that in the news yet.

God Bless the families.

Fox News online says FBI joining in the investigation. Is this normal? Or do they think something nefarious happened?

Is it normal to have that large a crew on a tanker? I'd have though more like half a dozen or so.

Wonder if some cargo came loose / exploded.

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Originally posted by Expert308:
Is it normal to have that large a crew on a tanker? I'd have though more like half a dozen or so.

Could have been no (tanker) bladders and it was being used for Self-Loading Cargo and other material.

In fueling mission configuration, the bladders are loaded in the cargo bay, and in cargo config, they are offloaded.

Very unlikely you would have that many SOB during refueling mission, but there is always exceptions, and many things have changed over the years on the way things are done, than what I experienced.

I have other thoughts on the mission, but won't put them out there for OPSEC reasons.

Airplane appears to be upside down on the ground also. I think, from the Liveleak video, that we are looking at the belly and rear ramp.

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Originally posted by Expert308:
Is it normal to have that large a crew on a tanker? I'd have though more like half a dozen or so.

I could be wrong and have been a lot, but normally a refuel variant is referred to as KC-130(x). Pretty sure they were hauling troops since the initial reports listed Marines and 1 Navy(guessing probably corpsman) as casualties.

Of course the press could just be being lazy, or the press releases not quite accurate. The thread title doesn't match some of the articles I've seen.

does not seem / sound like a "KC-130" - may have been an "AC-130"

WASHINGTON—The military plane that crashed in Mississippi and killed all 16 aboard was carrying a group of elite Marine troops headed to California for specialized training, U.S. defense officials said.

The crash late Monday evening took the lives of 15 Marines and one Navy sailor. The plane was carrying a a group of Marines from what’s known as the Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command.

Those 15 and a Navy corpsman who were killed in the crash came from variety of active duty and reserve units around the nation, an official said.

Marine Corps officials said the flight began from Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point in North Carolina, and was headed to a naval air facility in El Centro, Calif., to transport personnel and equipment there.

The plane contained weaponry and ammunition that could have contributed to additional explosions after the crash, which occurred in a soybean field in rural Mississippi, officials said. A special team of explosives technicians are examining the site to assure it remains safe.

Officials said they don’t know what caused the plane to plummet from about 20,000 feet into the field, but investigators are examining the pallets of ammunition and other cargo on board, and how the material was loaded, for clues.

There were no indications of terrorism or foul play, officials said. The identities of the service members were being withheld pending notification of relatives, the officials said.

On Monday evening, officials from the Federal Aviation Administration contacted the Marine Corps when the KC-130 aircraft disappeared from air-traffic control radar over Mississippi, according to Marine officials.

“While the details of the incident are being investigated, our focus remains on providing the necessary resources and support to the family and friends of these service members as they go through this extremely difficult time,” Marine Corps officials said in a statement.

Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant posted his condolences on Facebook. “Please join Deborah and me in praying for those hurting after this tragedy. Our men and women in uniform risk themselves every day to secure our freedom,” he wrote Monday evening.

The KC-130, a turboprop plane, is considered a workhorse for the military. It is a refueler and is also commonly used as a troop and cargo transport plane.

On Tuesday morning, President Donald Trump offered his and first lady Melania Trump’s condolences, writing on Twitter, “Marine Plane crash in Mississippi is heartbreaking. Melania and I send our deepest condolences to all!”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u...equipment-1499794588