Feinstein's centrist approach?


March 10, 2018
Bernie Sanders is winning the Dem civil war, and the establishment is terrified

Vermont senator Bernie Sanders will not endorse his longtime California Senate colleague Dianne Feinstein in her re-election bid. Sanders says it's an issue for the "people of California" to decide.

AOL:

The former presidential candidate has publicly endorsed other Democrats on the campaign trail.

On Thursday, he announced his support for liberal candidate Marie Newman in her Illinois primary challenge against a seven-term Democratic incumbent.

Feinstein, who's served five consecutive Senate terms, failed to secure an endorsement at California's state Democratic convention last month with nearly two-thirds of the party's delegates voting against her, according to the LA Times.

The Hill reports that Feinstein was one of Hillary Clinton's biggest supporters, urging Bernie Sanders to drop out of the presidential race.

According to Politico, Feinstein's centrist approach has caused her to maintain a troubled relationship with the liberal wing of her party.

As of late January, the Sanders organization, "Our Revolution," has endorsed 113 candidates at all levels of government, and 44 have won.

Jim Geraghty:

In the 2017 elections, Our Revolution endorsed 113 candidates, of whom 44 won. (In order to be endorsed by Our Revolution, a candidate must be nominated by a local group, agree with Our Revolution's platform, and pledge to run "a positive campaign" and "reject money from corporate interests.") The group also supported a winning Maine voter referendum to expand Medicaid coverage in the state.

These were mostly low-profile races for state legislatures, mayoralties, city councils, and school boards. Some were in predictable parts of the country – four of the wins came on the Cambridge, Mass., city council, and another five candidates were elected to local offices in Somerville, Mass. And as Todd notes, off-year local races have the lowest turnout of any elections in the four-year cycle, and are thus the lowest-hanging fruit for a band of committed ideological activists.

Some of those candidates were extremely well funded but ended up losing. This points to the fact that no matter how much money and enthusiasm a Sanders clone can generate to win a Democratic primary, his chances in the general election against a Republican are greatly reduced due to the wild-eyed radicalism.

Establishment Democrats like Feinstein find themselves in trouble this election cycle not because they necessarily disagree with Sanders on a lot of issues – they don't – but because they are insufficiently radical on issue like the economy, the "1%," and especially health care. And Democratic primary voters, energized by anti-Trumpism, want to go all in with the Berniecrats.

There are going to be enough primary victories for Sanders clones to radically alter the make-up of the Democratic Party. Sanders doesn't have to win the presidency to take over the party. After all, George McGovern was slaughtered by Nixon in the 1972 election, and two years later, more than 50 of his acolytes entered Congress in the Watergate class of 1974.

The establishment Democrats aren't stupid about politics. They know that in order to take over the House in November, there can't be a bunch of radical socialists on the Democratic ticket. But the Democratic base appears to prefer the candidates who can stir their blood and carry the fight to Washington. It will be interesting to see if the Dems shoot themselves in the foot and run a bunch of candidates who can't win in the general election.

https://www.americanthinker.co...nt_is_terrified.html

We're going to clean their freaking clocks this November.

It's just poorly informed and ill-considered jealousy. They think Trump is a freak, and that the golden path to success must therefore be to rally behind a liberal freak.

It's always nice to sit back and watch them go into a frenzy when feeding on their own.

Bernie ain't winning nothing but Jack and Shit, and Jack's left town. Just the media manipulating the narrative.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
We're going to clean their freaking clocks this November.

Especially with the unveiling of their Tax Hike Plan.

Stay the course boys, stay the course!
Now, with all this winning, I'm starting to feel like that Sheen boy! Winning, Winning Winning!

Good. I hope he does. Push that party even further left. All that would accomplish would be to drive the moderate "Blue Dog" Democrats towards the GOP, leaving the Democrats as the party of just the hippies, hardline socialists, snowflakes, and Antifas. (I mean, it already mostly is, but many long-time Democrats haven't woken up and smelled the coffee yet.) Then they can fade into obscurity as they scrabble with the Green Party and Communist Party over who gets to claim to be the furthest left.

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There are going to be enough primary victories for Sanders clones to radically alter the make-up of the Democratic Party.

The centrist Democrats are without power. The socialists/communists now control the Democrat Party.

In the short term... that's probably good for the November elections.
In the longer term... it tells you that there are an awful lot of radical leftist millennials who seem to want to upend our capitalist free-market economic system. They will push this country to violence.

I hope we do Para. It is amazing how many idiots are reproducing and spewing their idiocy to their kids.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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There are going to be enough primary victories for Sanders clones to radically alter the make-up of the Democratic Party.

The centrist Democrats are without power. The socialists/communists now control the Democrat Party.

In the short term... that's probably good for the November elections.
In the longer term... it tells you that there are an awful lot of radical leftist millennials who seem to want to upend our capitalist free-market economic system. They will push this country to violence.

I hope you are wrong, but fear you are right.

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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There are going to be enough primary victories for Sanders clones to radically alter the make-up of the Democratic Party.

The centrist Democrats are without power. The socialists/communists now control the Democrat Party.

In the short term... that's probably good for the November elections.
In the longer term... it tells you that there are an awful lot of radical leftist millennials who seem to want to upend our capitalist free-market economic system. They will push this country to violence.

I hope you are wrong, but fear you are right.

What I've noticed is that the vacuum created by the Dem hard Left lurch, draws weaker and unprincipled characters further Left than they would otherwise go. This pulls even more similarly handicapped individuals Leftward. It also doesn't help that Leftism takes no courage nor thought to promote/endorse/defend. It only requires enough emotion and a healthful dollop of snark. It is that emotion that will eventually drive violence. With enough emotion, anything seems reasonable; even genocide.

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The establishment Democrats aren't stupid about politics.

I don't know about that. They endorsed Hillary Clinton for president, one of the worst candidates in the last century. And how about shutting down the government to protect illegals? I don't think the current party and it's leaders are nearly as smart as 'some' people might think they are.

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But the Democratic base appears to prefer the candidates who can stir their blood and carry the fight to Washington.

Soooooooo, what does that tell us about a group who will enthusiastically elect a primary candidate who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning a general election? It tells us that a large segment of the population are complete morons, and that they function entirely on emotion(s) rather than 'any' measure of reason or intellect. That is not a recipe for success for that party or the country as a whole.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the opinion of others here that as the Dem party lurches further and further to the left, the level of violence committed by those who continue to support it will spike upward big time. We've only had a taste of the ugly from this group so far...

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Originally posted by darthfuster:...What I've noticed is that the vacuum created by the Dem hard Left lurch, draws weaker and unprincipled characters further Left than they would otherwise go. This pulls even more similarly handicapped individuals Leftward. It also doesn't help that Leftism takes no courage nor thought to promote/endorse/defend. It only requires enough emotion and a healthful dollop of snark. It is that emotion that will eventually drive violence. With enough emotion, anything seems reasonable; even genocide.

As Voltaire noted, those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
That is not a recipe for success for that party or the country as a whole.

They're building sand castles or a movement or something with all the organization, drive and focus of a pack of bored 14 year old kids. I guess it's fine as long as it keeps them busy.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
We've only had a taste of the ugly from this group so far...

The one metric that comes to mind is ANTIFA's demonstrated competence. I still think of the local armed ANTIFA as an easy source for a free rifle should trouble break out downtown. They really are that bad.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
We're going to clean their freaking clocks this November.

I think your right, with the sole exception of commiefornia.

We need to purge the illegals from the voter rolls! Pennsylvania has a huge amount of illegals and with their votes they could swing an election. I am sure the more populated states have the same problem. I don't think the Dems would approve of getting citizenship background checks to allow people to vote in our elections.

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:...What I've noticed is that the vacuum created by the Dem hard Left lurch, draws weaker and unprincipled characters further Left than they would otherwise go. This pulls even more similarly handicapped individuals Leftward. It also doesn't help that Leftism takes no courage nor thought to promote/endorse/defend. It only requires enough emotion and a healthful dollop of snark. It is that emotion that will eventually drive violence. With enough emotion, anything seems reasonable; even genocide.

As Voltaire noted, those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

Let them try. It only works in liberal controlled shitholes at the moment. The moment they try in an area where they don't have the support of the local people and government, they will get destroyed.