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Told cops where to go for over 29 years…
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Or maybe they could simply yell “POLICE! Stop or I’ll shoot!”


Problem solved.






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
Posts: 10937 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Confused

So, what about the campaign to get people to forego firing guns in the air on New Year's Eve?


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This isnt going to save the precious thugs from dying at the hands of the police, because all those precious baby boys will continue to rape this society until they're locked up or shot dead.

Everyone knows what this is about. It's not about saving the lives of citizens. Its an effort to slow down the death rate of criminal yutes, and it will not work.

Detroit? Yeah, that figures, doesn't it? Roll Eyes
 
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I can't believe it but there is no video clip online from the Paul Regret duel in the movie Comancheros. Regret tries to fire his warning shot but because his opponent stepped sideways when he turned he stepped into the path of the bullet and died.

Sounds like this needs to be the party line of the "warning shot policy".

The stupid is strong in those who voted for this.




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Oh, hell no!
 
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The bad part is that now any time there is a trial the defense will say that it's now recommended practice to fire a warning shot, so why didn't the officer follow the advice. Stupid, stupid, stupid!



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The bad part is that now any time there is a trial the defense will say that it's now recommended practice to fire a warning shot, so why didn't the officer follow the advice.


Easy. Because our use of force policy specifically prohibits warning shots.
 
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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
The bad part is that now any time there is a trial the defense will say that it's now recommended practice to fire a warning shot, so why didn't the officer follow the advice.


Easy. Because our use of force policy specifically prohibits warning shots.


I know most if not all departments will scoff at this nonsense, but you know attorneys will use this at trial to try to paint the LEOs as bloodthirsty killers, unwilling to give the poor misguided 'youth' a chance.



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Posts: 29408 | Location: In the red hinterlands of Deep Blue VA | Registered: June 29, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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In other news, LE agencies are now being sued at a higher rate. Attorneys for the plaintiff claim that the police provoked multiple shootings by firing "warning shots". The plaintiff's all believed that they were being needlessly attacked and shot at by the police, and returned fire. Roll Eyes




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Mr. DeLuca must be a chundering moron.



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Maybe just shoot 'em in the leg or arm...
 
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No one is going to disband the IACP for making stupid position statements. Keep in mind that the first word of the organization name is “International.” Although I haven’t seen anything recently in the vein, probably because it’s not an organization I usually pay any attention to, they have been against private gun ownership for decades. This “warning shot” issue first came up weeks ago, and most LEO comments I read condemned it as the idiot idea that it clearly is.




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How about instead, they drive around the city once a year and broadcast a Warning Announcement over a bunch of loudspeakers:

WARNING! WARNING! IF YOU SHOOT AT THE POLICE OR ANYBODY ELSE WE WILL KILL YOUR ASS!! WARNING! WARNING!



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Why not have the officer sing the National Anthem so the thug will take a knee. Problem solved!

As a side note we were never instructed to shoot to kill, rather to shoot to stop the threat.


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What next? laws or policies that require we shoot them in the leg first? Oh brother.
 
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Warning shots are going to be tougher with their next recommendation....carrying only one round of ammunition in your left breast pocket....
 
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the IACP, when they aren't giving each other awards, has NEVER stood up for, or trusted, street cops. They have also never been strong advocates for the 2nd Amendment.
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Wait, what?
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Maybe just shoot 'em in the leg or arm...


I was aiming for the arm (or leg) but due to the suspects dynamic movement, managed to hit them center of mass. Tragic...




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Originally posted by parabellum:

Everyone knows what this is about. It's not about saving the lives of citizens.


Smells like they're shoveling the same PC bullshit as the NFL.



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I read the posted IACP article and saw numerous references that Police shoot to kill. In my 30-year career, I was always taught, and then once became a trainer, I taught others that Police shoot to 'stop the threat' Stopping the threat does not mean you have to kill. If we shoot and suspect goes down and surrenders but he is still alive, they imply we have to keep shooting him on the ground till he dies.

Warning shots. 2-times I have seen falling New Years Eve bullets cause property damage. One falling round went thru a fiber optic cable and the company had to replace a whole block of cable. Another, a .45 round came thru the roof of a mobile home and embedded on the kitchen counter. We all know people are killed every year from falling bullets.

The IACP is an Organization of administrators. And we all know that once you become an Administrator, you have to receive the required lobotomy for the position. Whats next??


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