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I know, I know, stop reading CNN...

Seriously, when is this stuff going to stop!

Link: Is 'It's a Wonderful Life' sexist?

It seems like America's every cultural moment is under review thanks to Harvey Weinstein, Roy Moore and the rest of the men accused of sexual misconduct this year. I can't even watch a Christmas movie like "It's a Wonderful Life" without wondering if it is inherently sexist. And I love that movie.

But seriously, if gorgeous, brilliant Mary had never met her George Bailey, would she have ended up working in a library? Worse than that, would she have been an old maid -- a fate apparently worse than death when the movie was made in 1946?

I am not alone in my musings. Blaine Greteman, who writes for The Week, questions whether "The Nutcracker" is appropriate for young girls. He asks, "What the hell is going on with Godfather Drosselmeyer?"

And feminists have long objected to that flirty Christmas Carol, "Baby It's Cold Outside." That's why every holiday season someone writes an article urging America to retire the song because of its rape-like undertones. It starts innocently enough. Guy meets gal on cold Christmas night. They share a drink. I am all in until the duo sings this:

Man: Put some records on while I pour
Gal: The neighbors might think
Man: Baby, it's bad out there
Gal: Say what's in this drink?
Man: No cabs to be had out there

The song was written in 1944, when women were expected to, as billionaire Foster Friess "joked" in 2012, put aspirin "between their knees" for birth control. I try to keep an open mind, but yuck!

But have we become too sensitive to lyrics, movies and plays? CNN's legal analyst and my good friend, Paul Callan, wonders if the Broadway hit, "The Producers," could be censured. "I think ... Ulla was the sexy receptionist who got her butt tapped a few times by all of the people in this very successful Broadway show," he said on HLN. "I don't think we can run that on Broadway anymore, given Wendy's attitude about these things and how dead serious people are about this."

Wendy is Wendy Murphy -- a fiery former prosecutor and staunch defender of sex abuse victims. Murphy and Callan were arguing over whether a "zero-tolerance" attitude has taken hold in our culture -- one in which an accuser points a finger and the accused is automatically deemed guilty.

Pop culture is "not the point," Murphy said passionately. "These are real human beings; this is not theater. Real human beings and women have a right to work in equal and safe conditions. That's not asking for much."
However, old-fashioned songs, plays and ballets are a part of the real world. They can influence the way kids think about gender roles. Perhaps it is time we retire these dinosaurs and bask in a brighter, more equitable future. It's happening right under our noses.

After all, women are leading the box office in 2017 -- and not one, unlike Ulla in "The Producers," sings a song called "If You Got It, Flaunt It."

The "Last Jedi" features Rey, a smart, strong freedom fighter. "Wonder Woman" boasts a superhero who is compassionate, smart and a kick-ass fighter. And "Beauty and the Beast" features Belle, who refuses to settle for a man who is not up to her standards.

That's not to say there hasn't been backlash. Remember the all-female remake of "Ghostbusters?" Sexist and racist trolls, angry that women replaced the original male characters, made life hell for Melissa McCarthy, Kate McKinnon, Kristen Wiig and especially Leslie Jones.

The hateful provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos was front and center. He told ABC News the recast made him feel oppressed. "I would rather a healthier, equitable arrangement that existed between the sexes rather than the sort of vindictive feminism that seems to exist now," Yiannopoulos said. "And by the way, most people agree with me. Fewer than one in five women in America describe themselves as a feminist, because they see what I see."

Too bad, Milo. The "Ocean's 8" trailer has just taken social media by storm. And Sandra Bullock, Anne Hathaway, Rihanna, Cate Blanchett and Mindy Kaling have replaced the original male cast.

And guess what?

The cast is ready to go to war with sexist trolls who might be angry that women are treading into male territory. As Bullock told Entertainment Weekly, "I'll tell you, we've got some feisty women that will fight right back."
I plan to run to the theater to see Sandy and company rule. But have I cooled to classics like "It's a Wonderful Life" and "Baby It's Cold Outside?" Kinda. I most certainly will never watch that movie or hear that song in the same way I did when I was a kid. And that's a good thing.
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So I googled the trailer and it's terrible. Then I looked at the rating and comments. This movie will probably end up like Ghostbusters 2016, and all the implications therein.




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It will do as well as the last all-female-cast feminist reboot of Ghostbusters they tried to ram down our throats.
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Seriously, when is this stuff going to stop!


When the left has won and turned this country into a socialist hell hole with no personal freedons and no individual thought at all.

Thankfully that will never be while I am alive.
 
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Dirty Dozen is probably the next female remake Roll Eyes

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Seriously, when is this stuff going to stop!


When the left has won and turned this country into a socialist hell hole with no personal freedons and no individual thought at all.

Thankfully that will never be while I am alive.


It won't stop until there's some sort of national crisis that will force these clowns to stop thinking about trivial bullshit.
 
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How about 80% of hip hop? Nothing... how tolerant.
 
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However, old-fashioned songs, plays and ballets are a part of the real world. They can influence the way kids think about gender roles. Perhaps it is time we retire these dinosaurs and bask in a brighter, more equitable future. It's happening right under our noses.

Re-write history....


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However, old-fashioned songs, plays and ballets are a part of the real world. They can influence the way kids think about gender roles. Perhaps it is time we retire these dinosaurs and bask in a brighter, more equitable future. It's happening right under our noses.

Re-write history....

By all means! I'm sure the "Bad Moms Christmas" movie is set to become a favorite Christmas tradition for dozens of households. IMO, we need more George and Mary Baileys and a hell of a lot fewer Carol Costellos in the world.
 
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CNN will continue to be on the air as long as we care what they have to say. Frankly I have not watched CNN or anything they have aired except for when Fox News has reported their dumb ass antics.


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How about 80% of hip hop? Nothing... how tolerant.


More like 95%. Doesn't count. It's like Islam, because it comes from an "oppressed" group it is immune from criticism and to call it out would be a microaggression against black culture and lord knows we can't have that!



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What these ridiculous nitwits don't seem to grasp is this reality...women stand to lose the most with this #metoo# nonsense. Newsflash. Men run the world and that's not going to change. If women keep this crap up, trying to bend the bad behavior by some into an epidemic of the many, men in general will stop promoting women into positions where they have to deal with them one-on-one. Why even take the chance giving a woman a key client when the possibility exists that she could find herself one-on-one with that client which might later end up in the media or courts as a sexual discrimination case.

Honest question. Why could Harvey Weinstein pray on women in such huge numbers? Answer...Because those women wanted fame and notoriety so badly, they were willing to throw their integrity and morals out the window to get it. And even after many of them got the fame and notoriety they craved, they still kept their pie holes closed allowing Harvey to continue to pray on more vulnerable women. Harvey's a pig, no doubt. So why didn't those women he sought to pray on just kick him in the twig and berries and spit on the curled up mass on the floor as they headed out the door?

This is just more of the same BS we hear day in and day out that "It's someone else's fault" on so many of societies problems. Though there are legitimate instances of sexual abuse, which are inexcusable and should be handled by law enforcement, some of the ownership of what is being framed as sexual discrimination today needs to be owned by the women involved. The women I know and work with wouldn't put up with inappropriate nonsense for a moment out of anyone. As such, no one prays on them, and they enjoy the respect of just about everyone they come in contact with.


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"SJW activists incarcerated in a Mississippi prison for trying to help blacks african-americans register to vote are now being given the chance at parole if they go on a mission to assassinate an Israeli general vacationing at a resort in the occupied West Bank....the film includes stars such as Rosie ODonnell, Meryl Streep, Ashley Judd, Rose McGowan, Mandy Moore and special appearance by Chelsea Handler."


This is just dumb enough to actually get made. Retarded, but not full potato.


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However, old-fashioned songs, plays and ballets are a part of the real world. They can influence the way kids think about gender roles. Perhaps it is time we retire these dinosaurs and bask in a brighter, more equitable future. It's happening right under our noses.

Re-write history....


How about this rewrite?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-j...married-santa-claus/

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CNN’s relentless campaign to destroy the innocence of young children marched on this weekend with a lengthy Sunday morning New Day segment promoting a children’s book that depicts Santa Claus as a homosexual who is married to another man.

Above a chyron that read, “Children’s Holiday Book Explores Race, Homosexuality,” New Day co-anchor Christi Paul declared the book a “fresh, new twist” and then appeared to lament the fact that “there are some families though, tsk, not so happy about the book’s maybe not so hidden agenda.”

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More is at the link with video.
 
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Cheese dickery abounds...

In the '80s and '90s CNN was my go-to source for news and news analysis.

Now, I haven't watched them in a decade.



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Cheese dickery abounds...


Stolen. Soooooo stolen... Wink


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