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New York man faces illegal weapons charges after killing 2 burglars in his home: report
May 29, 2019, 08:20 AM
HighZonieNew York man faces illegal weapons charges after killing 2 burglars in his home: report
New York man faces illegal weapons charges after killing 2 burglars
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May 29, 2019, 08:24 AM
ArtieSWell, the key here will be to see what "illegally owned" means. If it's a violation of something stupid like a magazine restriction, then this could be an interesting test of bullshit laws. On the other hand, if he's a felon in possession, he's could be screwed.
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May 29, 2019, 08:24 AM
mr kablammoNew York state, the confluence of mafia-thought and BOHICA politics.
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May 29, 2019, 08:28 AM
PowerSurgequote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
Well, the key here will be to see what "illegally owned" means. If it's a violation of something stupid like a magazine restriction, then this could be an interesting test of bullshit laws. On the other hand, if he's a felon in possession, he's could be screwed.
The article said felony possession of an illegal handgun. Doesn’t look like he was a felon. He more than likely was in possession of a New York restricted hand gun or it was unregistered or he didn’t have a state permit to own one. You couldn’t pay me to live in that state. Georgia doesn’t even have state registration of firearms.
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May 29, 2019, 08:28 AM
cgodevictimized twice....isn’t that nice
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May 29, 2019, 08:44 AM
bubbatimePut me on the jury. IN fact, depending on what part of upper New York he lives, put ANYONE on the jury. He will be fine.
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May 29, 2019, 08:52 AM
gearhoundsHopefully he draws a good jury and beats the criminal charges. The real danger he faces is from whatever family these turds have; if they’re cut from the same kind of cloth, they might be thinking civil suit. Then the jury has to be at least 50% in his favor.
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May 29, 2019, 10:12 AM
SigSauerP226quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge:
quote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
Well, the key here will be to see what "illegally owned" means. If it's a violation of something stupid like a magazine restriction, then this could be an interesting test of bullshit laws. On the other hand, if he's a felon in possession, he's could be screwed.
The article said felony possession of an illegal handgun. Doesn’t look like he was a felon. He more than likely was in possession of a New York restricted hand gun or it was unregistered or he didn’t have a state permit to own one. You couldn’t pay me to live in that state. Georgia doesn’t even have state registration of firearms.
This. Unfortunately, he probably wasn't following his state's stupid laws. I know all about that obviously. If you're going to live in states with stupid laws, best to follow them. I see a lot of people with the mentality of "no one's going to find out, fuck those dumb laws." This guy might have had that mentality...
...Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way... May 29, 2019, 10:14 AM
BBMWIf he doesn't have a permit for the gun, and there are very few permits in NYC, he'll likely do a year in jail for it.
May 29, 2019, 10:19 AM
radiomanquote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
If he doesn't have a permit for the gun, and there are very few permits in NYC, he'll likely do a year in jail for it.
He wasn't in NYC. Article clearly says so.
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May 29, 2019, 10:20 AM
FiveFiveSixFanquote:
Originally posted by SigSauerP226:
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge:
quote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
Well, the key here will be to see what "illegally owned" means. If it's a violation of something stupid like a magazine restriction, then this could be an interesting test of bullshit laws. On the other hand, if he's a felon in possession, he's could be screwed.
The article said felony possession of an illegal handgun. Doesn’t look like he was a felon. He more than likely was in possession of a New York restricted hand gun or it was unregistered or he didn’t have a state permit to own one. You couldn’t pay me to live in that state. Georgia doesn’t even have state registration of firearms.
This. Unfortunately, he probably wasn't following his state's stupid laws. I know all about that obviously. If you're going to live in states with stupid laws, best to follow them. I see a lot of people with the mentality of "no one's going to find out, fuck those dumb laws." This guy might have had that mentality...
Perhaps he was merely accurately assessing his chances of being 64 years old and potentially facing multiple opponents. As it turned out he did in this case, which included a male less than half his age.
He may have felt that his life was worth more than any punishment which the State of New York could mete out to him for illegal possession of a firearm.
May 29, 2019, 10:21 AM
radiomanquote:
Originally posted by SigSauerP226:
If you're going to live in states with stupid laws, best to follow them. I see a lot of people with the mentality of "no one's going to find out, fuck those dumb laws." This guy might have had that mentality...
But regardless he's still alive. There's a saying, "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."
Seems he at least met the goal of staying alive. Which is first and foremost.
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May 29, 2019, 11:17 AM
RNshooterOneida County is way out in the sticks. Most of those counties are Shall Issue for carry permits so he could easily have had one, if not a felon. If he had a permit and just somehow got his hands on a handgun and didn't register it, he will be totally fine. Unregistered firearm possessed by a permit holder is like jaywalking.
However, you are not allowed to even handle a handgun *in a gun store* without a valid permit. If he has no permit, he will likely be charged and convicted. Handguns are so verboten and the prohibition is so commonly known that jury nullification will not be an option. It would be easy to get 12 people to say "Yup, no hanguns without a permit. Everybody knows that" and find him guilty.
His only hope is that the DA defers prosecution because it was a good shoot and he feels sorry for him and about the civil suits to come.
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May 29, 2019, 11:21 AM
Skins2881You need a permit just to own a gun in rural NY?
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Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by bubbatime:
Put me on the jury. IN fact, depending on what part of upper New York he lives, put ANYONE on the jury. He will be fine.
Used to be a time when he'd be pefectly fine with a jury trial in that part of CNY.
Nowadays? He's screwed.
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May 29, 2019, 11:28 AM
jhe888Good shooting, Mr. Stolarczyk.
I feel sorry that NY puts him in that position.
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BBMWOh, okay. It was Utica. But still most of the gun laws are at the state level. The judges up there MIGHT be more lenient, but the laws may not give them too much leeway.
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Originally posted by radioman:
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Originally posted by BBMW:
If he doesn't have a permit for the gun, and there are very few permits in NYC, he'll likely do a year in jail for it.
He wasn't in NYC. Article clearly says so.
Yes. This is ALL of NYS. The same for NJ also.
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
You need a permit just to own a gun in rural NY?
May 29, 2019, 11:38 AM
parabellumThe recidivism rate for dead crooks is zero point zero.
May 29, 2019, 11:40 AM
Ryanp225Are they sure one of the crooks didn't bring that gun?
