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Truly everything in that state is upside down and backwards. What's right is wrong, what's wrong is right. If you are a felonious illegal alien, the state will protect and harbor you. If you are a white female citizen, you can be shot down in cold blood while you walk with your father. Mad


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it will take the feds 30 years to find him, much less do anything

he will die of old age and won't face ANY punishment for his murder

the defense can call it what they want, someone died at his hands

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Does anyone know if the parents and other family of the girl have moved out of the state?
 
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A small bit of good news:

"A Justice Department official said the U.S. Marshals took Garcia Zarate into federal custody Friday to face additional criminal charges in Northern California of being an illegal immigrant and a felon in possession of a weapon. He will then face a supervised release violation in Texas, from a prior federal conviction for illegally reentering the country. After that, he will be subject to deportation, the official said."

Complete article, note the headline is missing a very important word before "immigrant:"

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.552309f3f2b0

Immigrant sentenced in Kate Steinle shooting as Steinle family prepares for next fight

By Abigail Hauslohner and Maria Sacchetti January 5 at 8:02 PM

One criminal case is over, and an undocumented immigrant is slated for future deportation. But for Kate Steinle’s parents, the legal battle over who is responsible for their daughter’s death is just entering its next phase.

Jose Ines Garcia Zarate was sentenced Friday to time served for unlawful possession of a firearm, following a jury’s decision in November to reject murder charges against the Mexican national for firing a bullet that killed Steinle as she strolled down a San Francisco pier in 2015.

The acquittal provoked a fresh flurry of protest.. including from President Trump, who had used Steinle on the campaign trail to make the case for a border wall, an end to “sanctuary cities” and stricter immigration policy.

But Steinle family attorney Frank Pitre said after the trial that there had always been “two chairs missing on the defense table.”

Steinle’s parents want to see the city and county of San Francisco and its former sheriff pay for the fatal shooting, saying that their policies allowed Garcia Zarate, who already had been deported five times, to keep walking the streets of San Francisco.

They also want to see the federal government held responsible for the handgun that was used, after it was stolen from an federal agent’s car.

“KATE’s fate was sealed when a U.S. Department of the Interior, Bureau of Land Management Ranger failed to properly secure and/or store a government-issued firearm while it was left in an unoccupied vehicle in a high auto-theft neighborhood,” the family said in a lawsuit filed in 2016 that also named immigration officials as defendants.

[Calls for ‘Kate’s Wall’ emerge after Mexican immigrant’s acquittal in Steinle killing]

A federal judge dismissed the family’s case against U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, San Francisco and the county’s then-Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi, but said the case against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) could proceed because its employee’s negligence contributed to Steinle’s death.

With the end of Garcia Zarate’s latest trial, Pitre said attorneys can now access the files they need to take their wrongful death lawsuit to trial. They hope to secure a trial date at a scheduled hearing this month. They are also appealing the judge’s ruling in the case against San Francisco and Mirkarimi.

The wrongful death cases could enlarge the political debate about what failed Steinle: local immigration policies or federal mismanagement of guns?

Trump — who had launched his presidential campaign two weeks before Steinle’s killing with a speech decrying Mexican immigrants as criminals and calling for a border wall — quickly fixated on the death of “beautiful Kate.” He said the case is proof that “sanctuary city” policies, which restrict local officials from assisting in enforcement of immigration laws, are dangerous and must be stopped.

Critics say his declarations of Garcia Zarate’s guilt and what it meant skewed the public’s understanding of the facts.

The 12-member jury in San Francisco Superior Court was tasked with deciding whether Garcia Zarate meant to shoot Steinle. His prior criminal record — including multiple convictions for drug charges and for reentering the country illegally — were never part of the discussion.

“We put aside politics, immigration status, sanctuary cities — all of it we put aside for our decision,” said one juror, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of being harmed by those angry with the verdict.

When the San Francisco Sheriff’s Department released Garcia Zarate on a dropped marijuana charge in April 2015, he had no money, no cellphone and no place to live. Three months later, he was wandering around the pier — wearing two pairs of pants, with cracker crumbs in his pocket and one of his shoes missing its lace — when he found and picked up the stolen handgun.

It went off. The defense said a single bullet hit the ground 12 feet away and ricocheted 78 feet, the length of a tennis court, into Steinle’s back.

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IT WENT OFF????? ALL BY ITSELF?????

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The jury quickly discarded the first- and second-degree murder charges, which require premeditation, the juror said. It decided there was no evidence of involuntary manslaughter either, because the prosecution was unable to prove Garcia Zarate behaved recklessly.

“I think most people who were not in that courtroom do not understand the situation,” said Phil Van Stockum, a mechanical engineer in San Francisco and an alternate juror in the trial. “The defendant’s guilt in this case was just not related to the law on immigration.”

Trump and conservative politicians and pundits condemned the jury’s acquittals as an example of liberal politics prioritizing immigrants over public safety.

A Justice Department official said the U.S. Marshals took Garcia Zarate into federal custody Friday to face additional criminal charges in Northern California of being an illegal immigrant and a felon in possession of a weapon. He will then face a supervised release violation in Texas, from a prior federal conviction for illegally reentering the country. After that, he will be subject to deportation, the official said.

As in the criminal case, the gun that Garcia Zarate found in a rag on the pier has been central so far in the wrongful death lawsuit the Steinle family filed in 2016.

John Woychowski, a ranger for the BLM, left the loaded firearm in a backpack in his car in June 2015 while he ate lunch at a restaurant with his girlfriend and her children.

Judge Joseph Spero determined that was a critical failure in the lead up to Steinle’s death and dismissed the claims against all the defendants except the BLM.

San Francisco wasn’t at fault, he said, because it didn’t have to share Garcia Zarate’s release date with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and ICE didn’t have to pick him up. But the weapon was supposed to be secured at all times, he said.

“A handgun is indisputably capable of inflicting serious injury and damage — as a deadly weapon, that is its very purpose,” Spero wrote in a decision last January. The ranger, the judge said, “had a duty to better secure his handgun against theft.”

Sarah Webster, a BLM spokeswoman, declined to comment on Woychowski or say whether the agency updated its firearms security policies after Steinle’s death.

More than 500 federal firearms have been lost since fiscal year 2006, some of which have turned up in homicides and other crimes, according to federal records. In September 2016, California passed a bill requiring law enforcement officials to lock their firearms stored in vehicles either in trunks or in lockboxes out of view or face a fine of up to $1,000.

It is unclear who stole Woychowski’s gun and how it got to the pier. Garcia Zarate was never accused of stealing it.

“If you don’t have a fully loaded gun sitting out there on the pier . . . you don’t have this incident,” said Francisco Ugarte, a lawyer who represented Garcia Zarate in the criminal case with lead public defender Matt Gonzalez. “Any person could have picked up that rag on the pier. It could have been the Department of Public Works cleaning up the pier. It could have been a child. Or it could have been another homeless person.”

But ICE has consistently placed the blame for Steinle’s death on San Francisco’s sanctuary city policy.

ICE files detainers requesting that jurisdictions hold undocumented immigrants for up to 48 hours so agents can pick them up. But in areas that refuse, the agency asks at least to be notified of their release. San Francisco’s sheriff at the time ignored the request.

After Garcia Zarate’s acquittal, then-San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee reasserted that the city “is and always will be a sanctuary city.” But Lee, who died last month , also has criticized Mirkarimi’s handling of the matter.

“San Francisco’s Sanctuary City ordinance allows for communication with federal law enforcement regarding convicted felons,” Lee said in a statement the day after Steinle’s death.

But Spero, the judge who dismissed the Steinle’s lawsuit against San Francisco and Mirkarimi, found the sheriff was not out of bounds, since “no law required the Sheriff’s Department to share [Garcia Zarate’s] release date with ICE.”

In an interview with The Washington Post last month, Mirkarimi reiterated that statement and noted that ICE was well-versed in his policy.

The Steinles’ appeal of Spero’s decision is being heard by the U.S. Appeals Court for the 9th Circuit. Pitre, the family’s lawyer, said the sheriff’s department does bear part of the blame, as Mirkarimi was acting outside of what the sanctuary city policy stipulates.

“That’s why I have a real problem when we talk about responsibility for Kate’s death [and the conversation] looks solely at a hapless individual who was playing with a weapon that went off,” he said, “without looking at who was responsible for that gun being in his hands, and who is responsible for going beyond his authority in deciding not to share information on who was in his custody.”
 
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Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate, the illegal alien acquitted last year of murdering 32-year-old Kate Steinle in July 2015, has sued the federal government, demanding that it produce documents “pertaining to vindictive prosecution and collusion” with the state government in its prosecution against him.
In November, a San Francisco jury found Garcia-Zarate not guilty of murdering Steinle, agreeing that although he had the gun from which the fatal shot was fired, the discharge could have been accidental.

The jury did convict Garcia-Zarate of felony possession of a weapon. He had seven previous felony convictions and had been deported five times before finding “sanctuary” on the streets of San Francisco, a noted “sanctuary city.”

The federal government immediately issued a warrant for Garcia-Zarate’s arrest for violating the terms of his 2015 federal prison release. It then charged him with federal crimes — “for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition, and for being an illegally present alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition.”

As reported by CourthouseNews.com, Garcia-Zarate is alleging “that federal agencies colluded with the San Francisco police, district attorney’s office and sheriff’s office” and that he is being subjected to double jeopardy — being tried for the same crime twice.

In the motion, filed Tuesday, Garcia-Zarate’s attorney complains: “Almost immediately after the death of Ms. Steinle, then presidential candidate Donald Trump began to use Mr. Garcia-Zarate as the symbol of the dangers of illegal immigrants and the need for a wall between the United States and Mexico.” The attorney also cites several tweets by President Donald Trump as proof that his client is being subjected to unfair treatment.

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The federal charges that follows, the attorney argues, violate Garcia-Zarate’s rights to due process: “Though broken up into two counts, these allegations address the exact same conduct as that for which he was convicted in San Francisco.”

To prove his case of “vindictive prosecution” and collusion between state and federal law enforcement, Garcia-Zarate is demanding all records of communication between federal, state, and local law enforcement about the case.

Ironically, California is currently battling the federal government over state laws that restrict cooperation and communication between state and local government with federal immigration officials.

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When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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GMAFB. Kick his a$$ out.
 
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Someone should just clip this motherfucker and be done with it.



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Use a rope on that fucker. After he stops breathing, use it on his attorney.

Type of shit defends shit and what type of shit files lawsuits on behalf of shit?


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GMAFB. Kick his a$$ out.
Slice his achilles tendons first. He's already been deported 5x so it's time to do something different.



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Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate, the illegal alien acquitted last year of murdering 32-year-old Kate Steinle in July 2015, has sued the federal government,


I literally sputtered spit at my screen upon reading that.



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Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate, the illegal alien acquitted last year of murdering 32-year-old Kate Steinle in July 2015, has sued the federal government,


I literally sputtered spit at my screen upon reading that.


Then you definitely don't want to read this. I'm still shaking my head in amazement.
 
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Release this POS from custody and hire an MS13 member to put a pullet in the back of his head. Then we can all close the book on this filth once and for all.


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And his lawyer must be a shining example of jurisprudence.


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I'm pretty sure that prosecution by separate sovereigns is not barred by double jeopardy. In other words, nothing prohibits the feds from prosecuting him after a state acquittal.
 
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We need a big Earthquake on the fault line over there to make Arizona beach front property. I feel sorry for the honest people over there having to deal with the state's complete insanity of it's leaders. California seems like a sinner's paradise and is getting worse, if that is possible.
 
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Someone should just clip this motherfucker and be done with it.




Like an accidental/negligent discharge? Could happen. Yup, guns are dangerous. Or someone could shoot at a seal and hit the mother fucker. Yup.
 
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