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Prop 6 did not pass, largely because it was somewhat confusingly described and California voters are too flaming stupid to read and comprehend more than three words.


In another forum, someone labeled Prop 6 as the California IQ test. And CA failed miserably.

My condolences to the CA members; it is gonna be a shitshow. Welcome to the Newsom Regime.



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Well, among other things, this election confirms that most suburban soccer moms are dumber than fuck.

That appears to be the swing demographic in this election.



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... what will the mid terms mean for those independents in the House?

Is there enough indep. to cross the floor and make it meaningful; or are those pockets already accounted for?

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Dow and S&P 500 up over 2% today. Wonder what Paul Krugman thinks of that?




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Well, among other things, this election confirms that most suburban soccer moms are dumber than fuck.


Perhaps my most hated demographic in this country. I used to be surrounded by them in my previous town. I used to label them "Bettys"- youngish stay at home moms driving around in SUVs, gathering in herds and constantly talking about how bitchen their kids are- "Omagawd, little Cyyynthia is 1st chair violin and she is just so aaawesome, Omagawd...." Their vacuous chatter was beyond annoying. Their herd gets in the way at the grocery store, the bank, etc. Idiotic bims.



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Well, among other things, this election confirms that most suburban soccer moms are dumber than fuck.


Perhaps my most hated demographic in this country. I used to be surrounded by them in my previous town. I used to label them "Bettys"- youngish stay at home moms driving around in SUVs, gathering in herds and constantly talking about how bitchen their kids are- "Omagawd, little Cyyynthia is 1st chair violin and she is just so aaawesome, Omagawd...." Their vacuous chatter was beyond annoying. Their herd gets in the way at the grocery store, the bank, etc. Idiotic bims.
Would you rather they were working in business offices?

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When opportunities came to vote on important issues, the Republican Congress consistently failed to do many of the things they promised. The President tried to push his agenda, but the House often blocked it. The President was hindered at times as if he were working with the Democratic leaders of a Democratically controlled Congress.

When election day came, some of the Republican base remembered the broken promises and lost their motivation. Democrats voted as a unified, motivated base.


I believe this is exactly what happened in Iowa. Other than one Dem Representative, IA was all Republican - Gov, both Senators, 3 of 4 Representatives, state house, state Senate. Dems picked off 2 of our 3 Republican Reps, but Governor, state house and state Senate all stay in Republican control (neither Senator up for election this time). People just pissed that Paul Ryan and company couldn't get anything done on healthcare or anything else.
 
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Hmmm....never heard of her..


Fortunately your Cool emoji means an explanation is unnecessary. Wink


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Perhaps my most hated demographic in this country. I used to be surrounded by them in my previous town. I used to label them "Bettys"- youngish stay at home moms driving around in SUVs, gathering in herds and constantly talking about how bitchen their kids are- "Omagawd, little Cyyynthia is 1st chair violin and she is just so aaawesome, Omagawd...." Their vacuous chatter was beyond annoying. Their herd gets in the way at the grocery store, the bank, etc. Idiotic bims.

Mine too. Run on nothing but emotion and crotch.

I heard one interviewed on NPR the day after the election. She said something like the following: "I've been a republican all my life and voted for Trump, but now I'm a mom, and when I saw those little children in cages, I imagined my beautiful kids in there and that would just kill them and I can't vote for that kind of thing."

It's obvious then, that no rational thought transits the void between her ears. Ever.



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Florida may have a problem.

https://www.local10.com/news/e...eaded-toward-recount
Not likely. The margin is ~35k votes, and we vote by automated machine. So Nelson trying to overcome that margin will be next to impossible. That said the Dem's are good at BS, so we'll all have to watch.

I derive satisfaction that the whiney, entitled asshole Nelson is showing he is not man enough to accept the election results. Florida has been stuck with this idiot for more years than I care to remember. The Villages, Bill.
Somebody with knowledge of Florida law, please step in here. I was under the impression that a recount is required if the margin is less than 0.5%. If that is true, then Nelson has no say, re a recount. Am I off base here?



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Particularly given how many Republican Senate seats will be at stake in the 2020 elections.


The senate is a done deal. The stars really align well for the next 6 years. The seats coming up are much more safe.

I hate that we lost the house but that is just a further sign of the impotence of the house. Trump correctly understood that the Senate is how we keep the country by packing the courts with conservative judges. His rallies were very focused on senate races.

Think about it like this: The population of the US continues to concentrate in the larger cities while the rest of the country remains "fly over country". As the population shifts more representatives will be assigned to the high population centers. Is this bad, not really.

In the next 20-30 years this population shift will leave 12-15 blue states and the rest red. That works out to about 70 conservative senators and 30 liberal senators. It also protects the constitution because you will never get enough to agree to a constitutional convention.

The democrats showed the way with judges. Trump and McConnell are crushing them with their strategy.
 
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These people are so unfathomably dumb and uneducated that it makes my head hurt thinking about it.

Joy Behar Claims Democrats Lost Senate Races Due To Gerrymandering

Joy Behar said Democrats lost key senate races because of gerrymandering in a segment on ABC's 'The View' Wednesday morning.
NOVEMBER 7, 2018 By Bre Payton

Joy Behar said Democrats lost key senate races because of gerrymandering in a segment on ABC’s ‘The View’ Wednesday morning.

For some bizarre reason, ABC’s News’s Matthew Dowd brought up the fact that more ballots were cast in favor of the total number of Democratic candidates than Republican candidates running for U.S. Senate.


“In 2016 we had a split decision,” Dowd said. “Trump takes the electoral college, geography. Hillary Clinton wins the popular vote. Democrats won the popular vote last night by 8 million votes. But they lose U.S. Senate races in red areas –”

“Because of gerrymandering,” Behar interrupted.

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Here’s the clip of Joy Behar thinking Dems lost Senate seats because of gerrymandering

“It’s not gerrymandering, that’s the Constitution,” Dowd said. “The districts are gerrymandered but states are part of the Constitution. And I think that what we end up having is both sides, the blues are getting bluer, the reds are getting redder and it’s getting harder and harder for each side to figure out how to come together and deal with this.”

When discussing Senate races, the number of total votes cast in favor of one party or another at the national level is completely irrelevant. To win a senate seat, one must win the popular vote in one’s own state. Control of the U.S. Senate is not automatically handed to whatever party happens to get more ballots cast in its favor at the national level because senate races are determined at the state level, not nationally. When counting the total number of votes cast nationwide, one must consider the disproportionate effect blue states with high populations have on the overall vote total. A state like California, where Democratic Sen. Diane Feinstein beat her Republican opponent handily, will skew the total number in that direction, despite the fact that its own senatorial outcome has no bearing on Florida, Arizona, or any other state’s senatorial race.

As ABC News’s chief political analyst, Dowd knows this. His decision to conflate these two numbers which have no bearing on one anther is utterly bizarre. He continued to dig himself into an even deeper hole by comparing presidential elections to senatorial elections, which is also strange.

“So if you think about this, a Republican has only won the popular vote for president one time in the last seven presidential elections,” Dowd said. “George Bush in 2004 is the only time in the past seven elections. If this keeps up, they could possibly win the electoral college and still lose the popular vote and that’s the place we’re in after last night.”

Dowd and Behar aren’t the only pundits pushing wild and false ideas about how elections work.


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Hugely important point just now by @ezraklein: if the outcome of the midterms is that Republicans lose the popular vote for House and Senate, as they did w/ the White House, but due to gerrymandering emerge still controlling all three (and the Supreme Court)? Legitimacy crisis.

In the days leading up to the election, media pundits have been mixing these two numbers up and pretending that the popular vote is a thing when it comes to determining who is elected to the U.S. Senate.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/...e-to-gerrymandering/


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Hard to believe that people actually listen to opinions from Joy.


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What it all means is that the 2020 campaign in now full under way. Everyone except the entrenched swamp creatures will be testing the winds, angling for the best possible position to be in for re-election.

The swamp creatures, by their very nature, will be threatening, wheedling and maneuvering, hoping to ensnare the newcomers into their camp ("if you don't vote the way we want you to, your tenure on X committee will be a living hell...").




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A state like California, where Democratic Sen. Diane Feinstein beat her Republican opponent handily,
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Tom is confused. CA is much more screwed up than that. Diane Feinstein did not have a Republican opponent in the general election. CA voters had to decide which GDC was the least stinky piece of cat feces. (No offense intended toward cat feces.)
 
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A state like California, where Democratic Sen. Diane Feinstein beat her Republican opponent handily,
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Tom is confused. CA is much more screwed up than that. Diane Feinstein did not have a Republican opponent in the general election. CA voters had to decide which GDC was the least stinky piece of cat feces. (No offense intended toward cat feces.)


Right, so every single vote cast was for a Democrat...




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Now that the mid-term results are in, can we sum-up what it all means now?


It means the dims have just enough rope to really hang the shit out of themselves.


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Pima County had a proposal on the ballet for county road repair, which was soundly defeated by voters.

County Administrator Huckleberry (that's his name) is crying the blues that he won't get more monies that he's pissed away in past years on pet projects....NOT road repairs.

BTW, his annual salary is $288,000, plus perks.


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Recounts possible in FL, the Palm Beach and Broward counties haven't reported all votes, and are still turning in ballots these are heavily D areas.

So the Scott Desantis wins may very well be in question, FL, D, Elections, nothing new.



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