Dang man, why didn't I think of this??!?!?

Nothing gets cured anymore there's too much money in the treatment.

The big pharma conglomerates won't let that happen. Billions are made on those diseases every year. I know, that's tin foil territory but I can't help thinking it.

Jim

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
The big pharma conglomerates won't let that happen. Billions are made on those diseases every year. I know, that's tin foil territory but I can't help thinking it.

Jim

Seems like I am in good company here!

no incentive to cure anything these days when you can continue to hose patients for billions in just managing a condition\

you cure something and a revenue stream dries up

If those diseases get cured, won't there be a lot of very old folks sitting around in nursing homes at 6K a month causing another money problem?

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
no incentive to cure anything these days when you can continue to hose patients for billions in just managing a condition\

you cure something and a revenue stream dries up

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

Well I believe a cure for hepatitis c was found in 2014, for all you cynics.

Because no one would pay for a cure, right? What would the going rate be for a pill that outright cured cancer, maybe twenty bucks? Don't forget the gas station owners hosing you, too.

Has anyone actually identified the real and key problems with the healthcare system? How can we fix the system without an understanding of what's wrong?

While I think Biden is a boob his cancer moonshot is a great idea. 50 years ago we went to the moon why can we not harness that type of mental power and team work to cure things like cancer.

I have a more effective and likely solution. Lose the politicians and insurance companies.

Am I reading this right? some of you clowns think pharmaceutical companies don't want to have a cure for some of the worst afflictions mankind suffers? I'm going to chalk that up to ignorance. absolutely unbelievable.

Take cancer, diabetes and heart disease first.

Probably 50% or more is caused by lifestyle choices. The people that have the most control over that and the most to gain or loose won't participate in a positive way.

Do you want the government to step in and make those choices for them?

Huckabee's right, that we need to take a more scientific approach to the problem. Unfortunately, the Republicans (in spite of what they said for the last 8 years) did nothing to prepare for this.

Interesting takes...I guess I should elaborate on why I thought this was funny:

The solution to the healthcare problem is making sure no one gets sick?

The solution to the murder problem in Chicago is for people to stop killing each other?

The solution to the problem of national debt is to just pay the money back?

Get it?

Of course the healthcare problem would be much better if cancer, heart disease, Alzheimers and diabetes were cured. Does he think that no one has been working on that for decades?

The diseases mentioned are very complex and we still do not fully understand their full mechanisms. The difficult thing with Cancer and AD are finding treatments that do not kill or severely damage the patient.

There have been significant cancer breakthroughs such as anti-PD-1 monoclonal therapies that can greatly enhance the efficacy of cancer treatments but it does not work on every type of cancer, because some types do not express this receptor.

Polio is a virus and the solution was to generate a vaccine. Polio also does not mutate as readily as other viruses, so the vaccine continues to be effective.

Biological systems are extremely complex and do not always follow the laboratory rules for chemistry and physics. Invitro (laboratory) can be significantly different than invivo (in the body), and finding effective model systems to study drug development is not easy.

I know I am biased as a scientist (Molecular Biologist/Immunologist) but it takes years of research to address many diseases and the majority of times, the research does not yield an effective drug with acceptable side effects.

My tirade above does not even begin to address the difficulty of getting new drugs and vaccines approved for use. Clinical trials take significant time and resources with the major risk that they will not yield an actual product.

Just my educated and experienced $0.02,

Mike
(Molecular Biologist/Immunologist, working in clinical vaccine research)

How about a cure for the common cold?

Ever see how the various institutions involved in medical research compete for research grants?
And what they are proposing to research. It isn't simply cancer, or diabetes for example. Both of these diseases have multiple causes and multiple issues,from the molecular and smaller up to the entire human body. Each institution competes at a fierce level for the money. Each organization with grant money; NIH, Howard Hughes, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, American Diabetes Association, pharmaceutical companies, etc. each have there own rules, procedures about how to apply. Some of the research doesn't directly translate to a specific disease, just a better or different, or obscure attempt to find how cells or cell components function or interact. Often the research is shelved without an immediate effect towards a disease. Another researcher may use earlier research towards a different idea they have. Private research is held close to the vest for financial reasons. And it not unheard of for researchers to embellish results that may or may not be caught.
Complicated process, and often involves non- U.S. entities with their own rules and desires.
Definitely not one concentrated process or goal!