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I've noticed for 3-4 months that eating beef, specifically a steak or a roast (hamburger doesn't seem to bother) causes SERIOUS digestive issues. Not to be too graphic, it goes through me like Sherman through Atlanta.

Steaks are pink but not bloody, roast well done. I trim the bulk of the fat off after cooking and cut around any gristle. What's really amazing is that the reaction happens in a matter of a couple of hours after eating. My wife has always been sensitive to beef but notices an increased reaction as well.

The beef in question is from my half of half a beef critter we bought from a farm-based slaughter/butcher operation. We've used this outfit for several years and this is the first time there's been a reaction.

I'd hate to have to give up beef but unless we can ID some other reason, I may have to.




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Are the steaks marinated? Or prepared with any kind of rub, seasoning, etc.?
Is it ONLY from this beef?

I had a similar issue with the salad bar from a local place. Just all of a sudden. Then I found out they had recently started using Fruit Fresh on the salad bar.
 
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Invest in a dinner at Ruth’s Chris or equivalent and see how that goes (sorry!).




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well you could buy a couple of steaks from a grocer and see if you get the same reaction...
 
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Seems much more likely something's wrong with the meat, than with you.
 
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This tick is in your neck of the woods. Lone Star tick

You develop allergies to red meat.

7 Lone Star Tick Symptoms To Look Out For If You Think You've Been Bitten

https://www.bustle.com/p/7-lon...ve-been-bitten-66452

Planning to take a hike in the woods this summer? Be on the lookout for a new threat in the form of a tiny tick that seems to have supernatural powers. If you get bitten, Lone Star tick symptoms can mimic food poisoning, or a severe allergic reaction. And, the Lone Star tick could force you to become a vegetarian, because one result of getting bitten by this insect is developing an allergy to red meat. Cue Mulder and Scully. While it sounds like it's straight out of the X-Files, this is actually not a science fiction storyline.

"You're walking through the woods, and that tick has had a meal of cow blood or mammal blood," Cosby Stone, an allergy and immunology fellow at Vanderbilt University, told National Geographic. "The tick, carrying Alpha-Gal, bites you and activates your allergy immune system."

What's more is that you might not even realize you're been infected until you get violently ill at a backyard barbecue after chowing down on a ribeye or hamburger. This is because your body creates Alpha-Gal antibodies, and rewires itself to fight Alpha-Gal sugar molecules, which are prevalent in red meat.

The ticks are mostly found in the Midwest, East Coast, and in southern parts of the United States. While not everyone who is bitten will develop the red-meat allergy, there are other illnesses you can contract from the ticks. If you think you've been bitten by the Lone Star tick, here are the symptoms you need to watch out for.

The symptoms of being bitten by the Lone Star tick can be similar to food poisoning, but may also be accompanied by hives, and shortness of breath a few hours after eating red meat, Stone explained to National Geographic.

"There's a time delay in the reaction," said Stone, which accounts for why some people don't always immediately realize they're have a reaction. "It [the Alpha-Gal] has to first travel through your gastrointestinal tract to be released. Hours later, patients wake up with hives, shortness of breath, vomiting, and diarrhea."

Other symptoms can occur and are posted in the article.


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I think the suggestions to try another source of beef are worthwhile. The timing may not be a coincidence.

I'd only add that you should give the other source a couple tries, since your body may now be accustomed to rejecting beef. May need a re-set.

Since the problem is new, maybe try one of your previous sources of beef.


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The meat allergy is anything with four legs so it likely is not that. He said he could eat hamburger just fine.

I would be curious if it is the meat you purchased.



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If the beef is all from the same source I would question that first, try some from a different source.

You know, like when your SIG malfunctions, it's a good idea to try some different ammunition.



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I'm not a doctor but it seems to me the meat itself is not going through you, but some enzymes or what-not are getting shunted through your system. The meat itself would take 60 hours or longer to make it through all your plumbing.

The body is a vast chemical factory. It tells its minions to remove one material sooner if that material is causing issues elsewhere - and it has the capability to remove it. (Sometimes it has the capability to remove something and gets the signals mixed up - T-cells attacking healthy tissue?)

The same way my "I'm not an alcoholic" wino cousin chomps into the potatoes with relish - his body is pleading for something to soak up the alcohol because it cannot metabolize it fast enough - your body does what its processes think is best.

I stopped eating cured meats, mostly. It took years to figure out why hard salami, and cured stuff people regard as fancy, gave me a bellyache.

My sister-in-law has stopped eating red meats and anything with hormones or injections or anything, after her cancer.

I bet a lab could figure it out. Your doctor can send in a sample of the beef. Then go back to the butcher operation.
 
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Take suggestion by wcb seriously. The Lonestar does cause allergy to red meat. A doctor can run simple blood test to detect this allergy.



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Being a Vegan would mean more meat for the rest of us! Cool
 
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Are the steaks marinated? Or prepared with any kind of rub, seasoning, etc.?
Is it ONLY from this beef?

I had a similar issue with the salad bar from a local place. Just all of a sudden. Then I found out they had recently started using Fruit Fresh on the salad bar.


Marinated. Not sure in what, I'll check with The Cook.




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BTW, don't count on an invitation to the next SF cookout till you get this resolved. Just sayin'.
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BTW, don't count on an invitation to the next SF cookout till you get this resolved. Just sayin'.
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Take suggestion by wcb seriously. The Lonestar does cause allergy to red meat. A doctor can run simple blood test to detect this allergy.


My mom ended up with double whammy. Red meat allergy and Lyme's disease. Ticks are no joke.



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Originally posted by hudr:
Are the steaks marinated? Or prepared with any kind of rub, seasoning, etc.?
Is it ONLY from this beef?

I had a similar issue with the salad bar from a local place. Just all of a sudden. Then I found out they had recently started using Fruit Fresh on the salad bar.


Marinated. Not sure in what, I'll check with The Cook.
Are your steaks seasoned differently than burgers?

The reason I ask is I have a mild allergy to garlic that my siblings and I apparently inherited from Dad. Eating garlic causes large gas build-up and releasing causes everything to shoot out of us. Some steak seasonings have massive amounts of garlic. Tomato dishes tend to have massive amounts of garlic. Many places pair steak with garlic bread.



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Some blood types are not suited for beef eating and it does not affect some people until they get older. I have A- blood and am supposed to stay away from beef.

I have started eating less beef, as I have aged and eat more chicken, turkey and fish instead.

There is a book called eating for your blood type out there that might help.

Also if you did get a tick bite there are natural things you can take to help you there as well.


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Some blood types are not suited for beef eating and it does not affect some people until they get older. I have A- blood and am supposed to stay away from beef.
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There is a book called eating for your blood type out there that might help.


First I'd heard of it so I did a search and this was the first thing that popped up (I'm A positive):
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Type A blood: A meat-free diet based on fruits and vegetables, beans and legumes, and whole grains -- ideally, organic and fresh, because D'Adamo says people with type A blood have a sensitive immune system.


That's a big bucket of "fuck that."

Paul, hope you get it sorted out. I've got nothing to offer in the way of help, just along for the knowledge. Smile


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