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Would that be classified as terrorism?

If so, IIRC, insurance companies will not pay out as policies exclude acts of terror.





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well, this was just posted today...

http://www.breitbart.com/calif...ico-sanctuary-state/

ICE Director: Suspected Wine Country Arsonist Is Illegal Alien Mexican National



by Michelle Moons 19 Oct 2017

WASHINGTON, DC — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Acting Director Tom Homan confirmed on Thursday that a man arrested in connection with setting a fire in Sonoma County Wine Country is an illegal alien from Mexico who has been twice returned to his “home country.”

Homan also confirmed that ICE has issued detainer requests for Jesus Fabian Gonzalez five times now in the past year alone, including the one issued on October 16 in relation to his most recent arrest on suspicion of arson. All of the arrests were made “by Sonoma County on various felony and misdemeanor charges,” according to Homan.

Sonoma County is considered a sanctuary jurisdiction and does not fully cooperate with federal immigration officials. That includes not honoring ICE detainer requests. “ICE was never notified of Mr. Gonzalez’ various releases,” Homan wrote in the statement regarding Gonzalez.

There were several fires in the region, and it is not clear what role the fires Gonzales allegedly set played in the overall disaster.

Homan’s public statement highlights the lack of cooperation from Sonoma County officials and the devastating wildfires that have ravaged the region:

Once again, a non-cooperative jurisdiction has left their community vulnerable to dangerous individuals and preventable crimes. ICE lodged a detainer against Jesus Gonzalez with Sonoma County jail officials on October 16, following his arrest on felony charges for maliciously setting fire to a property. This is especially troubling in light of the massive wildfires already devastating the region. Over the past year, ICE has lodged detainers against Mr. Gonzalez after four separate arrests by Sonoma County on various felony and misdemeanor charges. ICE was never notified of Mr. Gonzalez’ various releases. Additionally, Mr. Gonzales has been returned to his home country of Mexico on two separate occasions. The residents of Sonoma County, and the state of California, deserve better than policies that expose them to avoidable dangers. Non-cooperation policies – now enshrined in California state law – ensure only one thing: criminals who would otherwise be deported will be released and left free to reoffend as they please.

California Gov. Jerry Brown recently signed into law a bill that makes California a sanctuary state.


Funny how breitbart is the purveyor of the actual "fake news." Always ready to spread an agenda, and often a lie.

Calfire hasn't made a determination as to the cause of the fire, let alone determined it's an illegal immigrant.

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ICE had released a statement Wednesday on its website, warning of Sonoma County’s “repeated releases of [a] dangerous criminal alien,” naming Jesus Gonzalez, a homeless man whom Sonoma officials had arrested earlier this week on suspicion of starting a small fire in a park.

Giordano had addressed this arrest at a news conference Tuesday, stating: “There’s a story out there that [Gonzalez] is the arsonist for these fires. That is not the case. There’s no indication he is related to these fires at all.”

Giordano stated that Gonzalez is known to sheriff’s deputies.

“He frequents Maxwell Park. He’s been known to sleep there,” Giordano said. “He was walking away from a small fire, [deputies] stopped him, he had a fire extinguisher and a lighter with him. He said he started the fire to warm himself up.”

On Thursday, Giordano told HuffPost: “The fire was less than a quarter acre. There is no such thing as a safe fire, but it wasn’t near homes and was put out quickly.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com...2e76e4b05b4f1c3a477f
 
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Just got call from real estate agent representing wife and her brother. There is a ton of insurance money flooding in to the market--people renting houses for $7-8,000 a month, paid by insurance. 12 parties looked at family property yesterday. Unfortunately important work needs to be done to make place livable. Lots of professional families displaced from fire, desperate to have place to live; this house is in good school district, great location (AND it has never burned!).
So we'll see. Maybe it will turn out better after all....


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Was speaking to a number of guys pulling security at some of the affected wineries (most ex-LEO), looting has been under reported for a variety of reasons. While not epidemic, it appears the initial stages of the fire brought out a number of low-lifes who went-in while others were getting out. LEO was able to stop, recover items and ID them, however they were not able to detain due to evacuation priority and speed necessary to cover other areas. Once things initially calmed down and mutual aide was able to be brought in, arrests were made of those who thought they could go in to areas closed off. Even over the weekend, arrests and chases were made; a stolen Jaguar with a backseat and trunk full of stolen goods was chased across three counties. The car and possessions are believed to have originated from the Napa-area, the meth pipe belonged to the low-life.
 
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so is there any real information on probable cause yet?



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I have heard nothing on primary cause.


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so is there any real information on probable cause yet?


Wind affected downed power lines and vegetation overgrowth affecting said power lines appear to be the culprit however, nothing solid has been developed. Could be a combination considering there was 10+ separate fires.
 
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A couple of looters got caught. They are being charged with seven felonies between them. The girl is 22 years old, what a way to start her adult life.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/art...8.php#photo-14445282


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