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AFAIK, virtually every treaty was broken by the white man.

And the land "guaranteed" to the Indians under treaty, was pretty much taken back, much of it by force.

My family is reputed to have some Nez Perce blood.


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AFAIK, virtually every treaty was broken by the white man.
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I'd bet that every one of those treaties were broken.... Frown
 
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I just wonder when the few remaining Native Americans are going to ask for their reparations....

I suspect they are just waiting for the powers coming into be of the government to accept the current request for reparations for African Americans and then they will point out they should by any logic be first on the list.....


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I just wonder when the few remaining Native Americans are going to ask for their reparations...


The last 25 generations of deaf ears have ignored any semblance of their existence, on the subject of moral ethical and financial responsibility .

Most refuse to acknowledge culpability

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“Seems we can’t trust the white man.”Josey Wales.
 
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We shouldnt combine the treaties with the massacre. The treaties and their enforcement is a very complicated and there were violations on both sides for different reasons. Massacres are just that and can have no justification/defense.

The treaties were broken, by both sides. Chief Black Kettle didnt represented all parties and they were very decentralized. As such there are violations by both sides. The 'white man' had trouble understanding this problem or how to deal with it. This was complicated and exacerbated by Miners, Settlers, et al moving into the area not understanding / ignoring the treaty arrangements. (On a personal note, I blame Andrew Jackson for this attitude. F him for all time for what he did to the Cherokee in North Georgia.)
Folk discuss and debate and quarterback this breakdown to this day and will for hundreds of years.

The massacre was just that, it was evil, unprovoked and just evil. These were mostly women and children and it was slaughter, there can be no other interpretation. Chivington and his officer corp should have been publicly executed.

Chief Black Kettle continued his peace efforts.



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